GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 7

[Metry504]

Also electric doors have a default mechanism to open them from inside when power goes out, manually by hand. And most can be opened from the outside but usually a key is required.

I have a garage but it's not an electric one, unfortunately

 

[Tallula.Belle]

If CL was in clinicals that night that would be easily proven by LE so I have to go under the assumption she was there unless its proven otherwise.
We have a eyewitness that saw a truck there. We also have FH rumor there was a silver car there . At one point all 3 vehicles were there. Neither of the accused perps own a truck and there have been no arrests so far of anyone that does. Perhaps the neighbor saw this on Friday when there probably was LE and investigators running in and out? We know for sure AL was there because he confessed to kidnapping BC.
Going with just what we know for sure, AL by all accounts was at the vacant house alone. (CL was at school. )
When was BC bound with duct tape? She met him approximately 5-5:30. There were neighbors close to this vacant house and this is a prime time for people to be returning home from work which is a risky time of getting caught. Would he have taken the time to bind her or use a weapon to force her to leave with him? Im assuming he would have taped her mouth also to keep her from screaming. If he just forced her in the car he would have had a hard time driving and controlling her too. If her mouth was taped he ran the risk of other drivers seeing a woman duct taped and calling the cops. So he probably would have had to bind her there and throw her in the back seat lying down or put her in the trunk. The only thing I can figure out if she was unbound at that time he made her get in the trunk which was the fastest way to get out of there. He had her phone on him and most likely was the one who texted her RE friend around 7. So maybe BC wasnt being held anywhere and was in the trunk.Then CL comes home and finds out what he did. At this point, BC was bound with duct tape. I think a struggling BC would have been a challenge for AL to handle by himself other than forcing her in the car with a weapon at the vacant house by himself. Al wasnt that much bigger than BC. If she is fighting him back at all I don't see him doing all this then. I can see her doing like Holly Bobo though and walking away with him.

My thoughts on the time was it was around 6 pm for the showing and some of the reports of cars being seen were closer to 7 pm. Still right at a busy time for people getting home from work and such. CC said he spoke to her at 5:30 so makes sense to me that the actual appt was later than 5:30.

No way could the neighbor be off on the day, because they put up yellow crime scene tape on Thursday night, and there were tons of people there on Friday. News crews. Searchers. LE. BCBS had a booth set up as did police. JMHO

 

[ConnectZDots]

I have a garage but it's not an electric one, unfortunately

And since sundown was at 7... The 5:30 appointment might have made some sense... to allow daylight time in the event of no power to do whatever was done there at the property and then twilight or low light to get the body in the trunk and leave. But again, I may be assigning more precision planning skills to AL (and accomplice) than he or they merit!!

 

[ConnectZDots]

My thoughts on the time was it was around 6 pm for the showing and some of the reports of cars being seen were closer to 7 pm. Still right at a busy time for people getting home from work and such. CC said he spoke to her at 5:30 so makes sense to me that the actual appt was later than 5:30.

No way could the neighbor be off on the day, because they put up yellow crime scene tape on Thursday night, and there were tons of people there on Friday. News crews. Searchers. LE. BCBS had a booth set up as did police. JMHO

So do we have news footage of the house at night, either thurs or Friday? We could tell if lights were on or not if so. Feel like I did see some some evening reports but maybe not at the house itself.

 

[Tallula.Belle]

Difference is Al admitted to the kidnapping ,CL has not................ Law states innocent until proven guilty. Not saying she was or wasn't involved, because we don't know all the info that LE knows.

Exactly. I can't believe how quickly people forget it is innocent until proven guilty. Just because someone is arrested doesn't mean just send in the lynch mob.

I want the truth. I want the actual people involved to pay for the crime. It will take time for this to play out. So far, I have heard no true evidence that shows CL is guilty.

 

[hagger]

Just a question here.... There wasn't any power, or was there? Is the garage an electric one... If so they wouldn't be able to open it, right?

I do not remember it being said by the witnesses that the car was backed up to the garage- only that it was backed up to the house...????

 

[jstkiddn]

Just a question here.... There wasn't any power, or was there? Is the garage an electric one... If so they wouldn't be able to open it, right?

Also electric doors have a default mechanism to open them from inside when power goes out, manually by hand. And most can be opened from the outside but usually a key is required.

^^^^^exactly this. I've opened mine this way many, many times. Pull the lever and it disengages from the chain and you simply open it like any other garage door. And since they were already inside the house, he would have zero issues accessing said lever. The power being on or off is a moot point as far as opening the garage door.

 

[Tallula.Belle]

So do we have news footage of the house at night, either thurs or Friday? We could tell if lights were on or not if so. Feel like I did see some some evening reports but maybe not at the house itself.

There were many. I want to say it had power but not sure.

 

[jstkiddn]

Some thought provoking ideas here concernedmother... My tendency is to think that BC was not walking out of that house in any "free" state, meaning I think she was bound inside the house - and (being an empty house with no threat of any owners stopping back for last minute something they forgot, etc,) AL would have known he had the time luxury of disabling her momentarily or long enough for his next needs - to transport her. This explains the "wide open door" of the house when CC arrives.

Then there were reports of a car BACKED UP TO THE GARAGE. To me that implies pretty clear forethought to prepare for a swift and stealth 'delivery' of the 'body' to the trunk. Carrying her out under the cover of the garage and dropping her right into the trunk. The trunk makes the most sense as an easier drop point for a body than a back seat and less conspicuous than the bed of a pickup for the travel to the next place. All of the above could have been out of view of neighbors. (in house, in garage) And... all that would have been best accomplished with two people as opposed to AL alone, not easy alone, but doable I guess.

I had said earlier that the "accident" of her death may have been suffocation if she'd been bound at the mouth (which is pretty certain) and then in a fast duct tape job he somehow also covered her nose and then shoved her in the trunk for... who knows how long.

Now we have CL. Who like you, I believe was at clinicals for the same reasons. However, here is a leap ...not knowing her.

What if, midstream in all this, she were to discover AL was smack in the middle of a crime gone wrong, one that she was just close enough for her to be potentially implicated -- and AL had convinced her it was not too late to get out of it undetected, if she would help him now. I go there since we see AL has this semi-Svengali charm effect on certain women and seemed able to convince them to act against better reason, common sense, and even their own interests. I mean, just living with this guy alone would be going against most better judgement and common sense, let alone living with your child ...and marrying him etc etc.

So the question being, would CL be the type who, once she discovers her husband to be in the middle of a criminal blunder, to (A) call the police and report him. (B) run from the whole scenario to a friend and extricate herself but NOT call and report him or (C) believe his plan to get out of it stands a chance of working and assist him at that stage thinking they/he could still get out of it and not get caught.

Your theory took me to that place...CLs decision she might take at the moment of discovery her husband had just committed a crime and it was going south ...and him pleading with her to help him get out of it. What course would she be likely to take at a moment like that? All very interesting speculation!

MOOooooooooo . Said the cow.

This is EXACTLY the scenario that I've been rattling around in my head. Exactly!

 

[concernedmother]

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409/29/ng.01.html
Now, she went out to show this house around 5:30. It`s my understanding it was still daylight outside, right?

CARL CARTER, JR., MISSING WOMAN`S SON (via telephone): Yes, ma`am, and that`s a large reason why she chose that house, to go to that house

early, because there`s no power in that home. So she planned to make sure that she got there so that they could view the house while there was good

daylight because in that foreclosed home, there was no utilities.

 

[hagger]

I believe there were 3 witnesses to Bev's suv, the truck after Bev arrived then the car arrived , the truck left 1st then the car ..... There were 2 men & 1 woman who spoke out... the 2 men were interviewed by MSM..not sure about the older woman --- at least one of them or maybe all went to be questioned at LE offices for 4 hrs..

 

[hagger]

Does anyone remember what CL lied to her ex about before owning up to the truth by phone from jail to him??

 

[concernedmother]

As a poster mentioned earlier, the neighbor may have seen CC pull up behind BC car. He probably has a truck being in construction business. Maybe one of the locals that know the Carter family could check on this. If so, that sure may clear up this truck mystery.

 

[hagger]

I would hesitate asking someone to ask the Carters for answers to our questions...

 

[concernedmother]

I would hesitate asking someone to ask the Carters for answers to our questions...

I agree. I meant they may be familiar with what they drive.

 

[hagger]

we need to go back and read/watch the interviews with the witnesses...I believe they say the truck arrived 1st then the car

 

[Tallula.Belle]

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409/29/ng.01.html
Now, she went out to show this house around 5:30. It`s my understanding it was still daylight outside, right?

CARL CARTER, JR., MISSING WOMAN`S SON (via telephone): Yes, ma`am, and that`s a large reason why she chose that house, to go to that house

early, because there`s no power in that home. So she planned to make sure that she got there so that they could view the house while there was good

daylight because in that foreclosed home, there was no utilities.

I am sure CC was even more alarmed then. He must have taken a flashlight to search the house for her.

 

[Knox]

I do not remember it being said by the witnesses that the car was backed up to the garage- only that it was backed up to the house...????

Here is the news story with the photo of the car. I asked way back when ... what is the object on the ground next to evidence marker number 4?
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2014/sep/26/realtor-goes-show-house-disappears-deputies-say/

 

[hagger]

My thoughts on the time was it was around 6 pm for the showing and some of the reports of cars being seen were closer to 7 pm. Still right at a busy time for people getting home from work and such. CC said he spoke to her at 5:30 so makes sense to me that the actual appt was later than 5:30. No way could the neighbor be off on the day, because they put up yellow crime scene tape on Thursday night, and there were tons of people there on Friday. News crews. Searchers. LE. BCBS had a booth set up as did police. JMHO

I agree that the apt was scheduled for 6, I remember that from early on --- Bev spoke with her husband 1t 5:30 which would put her there early to pull open blinds or curtains and ck on different aspects of the house before clients arrived..

again I am going to start reading all the threads to this case from the beginning, some things have come to light while somethings that were correct in the beginning have played a part in the telephone game and the facts have gotten out of line a bit..

 

[ConnectZDots]

Police probably had emergency power turned on then -after - to help with the house search, which might explain if we saw lights on afterwards. Somebody had posted it was 7 pm sundown that day. Usually there is a soft period of EENT, early evening nautical twilight, after official sundown time in which there's still some visible light. Not totally dark. I only know this so I can plan hiking times at the end of the day in all seasons.