AR AR - Cassie Compton, 15, Stuttgart, 14 Sept 2014 #5

[lovinlife83]

http://m.stuttgartdailyleader.com/article/20141106/News/141109790

stuttgart newspaper posting, timeline of texts from cassie to mom.

I love her positive attitude on page two, really trying to get people to come together and help.
Because this is a letter to the editor we can't really confirm it as fact.

Also, regarding JVM and the time TS gave for HS leaving their home with CC there was a big discussion a few days ago. Watch the video of the interview, ws'rs were saying the video skips right there IIRC. She is possibly saying 6:05pm but you only hear 5 pm - I've got to go look again.

 

[believe09]

I am confused by the uproar about Cassie being dead-hasnt that been the belief through out the town since day one? And that BR was responsible, hence the laid back attitude regarding the possibility that they have a child trafficker/child killer among them. Because he was in custody for 100 days or so.

 

[sreshowtime]

yeah I hate to sound rude, but the stuff about Cassie being dead...I mean really what else is there to go on? She IS either dead or alive...why is that so 'shocking'?? you could say there is a 50/50 chance either way, but as each day goes by those odds decrease tremendously of her being alive. I forget the exact statistic, but IIRC most missing children are deceased with 3 hours of missing.
Like you say believe09, seems like one contingent believes she is deceased based on what was told on here regarding the searches, pings and BR and what to look for ( body parts, may have been cut up to dispose of earlier, remember that??) Some seem to think she is just off hiding, or being held prisoner, just pouting some where for some unknown reason because butthead was in the home, let her go, please call, come home, turn your porch light on, ad nauseum

UNLESS there are people withholding crucial information about her whereabouts....

If the thought of her being deceased is so shocking, then move heaven and earth and be a LOUD and visible VOICE for her!! Family needs to bug the snot outta media, they will listen to you if you put the heat on them, in a polite yet firm manner...
I am sorry but being insular posters on individual FB's isn't engaging the public and increasing awareness, nor putting the proverbial heat on whomever is responsible...

there is so much that could be done, but 'strangers' can ultimately only do so much
it is so freaking aggravating to want to help and be eye rolled


but then wth do we know, we are just some schmuck 'Nosy Sluthers'

(bazinga...yep that was for YOU)

 

[Steleheart]

I am confused by the uproar about Cassie being dead-hasnt that been the belief through out the town since day one? And that BR was responsible, hence the laid back attitude regarding the possibility that they have a child trafficker/child killer among them. Because he was in custody for 100 days or so.

I think the uproar was because the rumor on that site was that BR confessed that he killed her and that is why he is back in jail, with no notice given by LE either to JC or to the public. The very notion that LE has a confession and a suspect without notifying the family comes off as a very cruel fabrication just for attention.

:cow:

 

[GigTu]

I was unable to locate that particular posting. I know the site, I know the thread... what is a date and time?

 

[believe09]

There hasnt been alot of transparency with BR and his shenanigans. I would not discount a confession simply because last fall the man was charged, tried and sentenced before even the locals knew he was actually for sure being held. IIRC.

I lean towards gossip, not necessarily a cruel hoax although it could be that as well. But if JC is a suspect, she wont be getting too much info from LE because that is how it goes. Suspects dont get a lot of information about the investigation for obvious reasons. I am perplexed as to why anyone would complain too much about it tbh. Only JC and LE know why she continues to be a suspect in her daughter's disappearance. If she can close the loop on her status, she should. I am not being harsh-this is the reality here. In fact, not only can they shut her out, they can lie to her. Something to think about.

 

[believe09]

I am sorry but being insular posters on individual FB's isn't engaging the public and increasing awareness, nor putting the proverbial heat on whomever is responsible...

there is so much that could be done, but 'strangers' can ultimately only do so much
it is so freaking aggravating to want to help and be eye rolled


but then wth do we know, we are just some schmuck 'Nosy Sluthers'

(bazinga...yep that was for YOU)

This attitude is maddening, but also demonstrates a mind set that this is a game, like the CSI all of them seem to be so fond of, rather than a real missing child case. Real live. And there are people here who have been on the ground and grid searched without fan fare. Professionals and advocates here who have reached out to the media and gathered data and made absolutely pivotal contributions to try and get accurate info out there that will bring Cassie home. There are people here who dont see this as a game. There is not a lot of window dressing here to try and lead people to believe that inaction, inexperience and possibly something more sinister is a motive for a virtually inactive FB page.

Maybe I am feeling harsh today. :banghead:

 

[Caring4Many]

I was unable to locate that particular posting. I know the site, I know the thread... what is a date and time?

I believe it is a different thread, than the one you are thinking. Go to the main page it is the top one. At least I myself am now seeing 2 of them.

 

[Oriah]

It is maddening for sure.

Perhaps we should try and gain some further info on Cassie via alternate public records searches. For example, child protective services, department of social services, health and human services, school services- whatever the government body is called in your area that oversees the health and safety of minors- is required to keep records and communications of cases, and to make them available to state or federal agencies if requested. I believe if a case has been closed and/or is not under active open investigation, then that info should be available via FOIA?

I'll have to look into it more, but am thinking for example I could file another request re: any past services this child or children in her household received?
For example; we have missing children nationwide who were either receiving social services at the time they went missing due to need, or were subject to intervention by DSS/CPS via guardianship, school, parental allegations etc. So I am curious- it's been said that Cassie's family is low income. Are they receiving public services for that, such as food assistance and health care? Does anyone have any experience with time frames regarding missing persons (in particular minors or otherwise dependent MP's) and when legally they are no longer eligible for assistance? I only have experience regionally.

Services such as those would need to reapplied for every six months or possibly annually, or when circumstances change. When does a dependent missing person become ineligible for services?

Thoughts?

Does anyone know the legal protocol for dependent missing persons in Oklahoma? If Cassie was receiving services, have they been reapplied for?

 

[Skeeter]

Can someone inform me what t*pix is or share a link?

 

[believe09]

Benefits-If JC collects SS or SSDI, there is a chance that Cassie would collect SSI as a dependent living within the home. Social Security usually has a cap or max benefits that a household would receive-I have no idea how many of the children of JC would be able to take advantage of this possible stipend available through the government. SSI benefits are collected until the child is 18 I think, but I am not an expert. JC being able to collect would depend on her work history and how much she contributed to social security when she was employed.

State benefits-we dont know what kind of income threshold we are dealing with and who inside of that house was collecting what...I mean BR doesnt seem to have been employed consistently. To receive SNAP benefits, a household of two has a threshold of 20,449/year. A household of 3 has a threshold of 25,727/year. AR has Fuel Assistance, Medicaid and some programs geared towards low income families with school aged children. I dont know if home schooled children qualify for the summer/free breakfast and lunch assistance that public school student qualify for.

LINK HERE

 

[Oriah]

Thanks believe09. Now I'm wondering about the OK/AR situation.
There is also a state to state transfer situation (blanking on the acronym at the moment) that can be applied for I think.
Will look into that.

I am very curious about the social services missing dependent minor situation- if in fact that was the case at the time Cassie went missing.

 

[believe09]

Thanks believe09. Now I'm wondering about the OK/AR situation.
There is also a state to state transfer situation (blanking on the acronym at the moment) that can be applied for I think.
Will look into that.

I am very curious about the social services missing dependent minor situation- if in fact that was the case at the time Cassie went missing.

Springing off of this-lightbulb just went off for me, lol. Is JC still collecting resources for Cassie even though she is missing-that's what we are wondering right? For example, if Cassie was awarded SSI, is it still being collected by JC even though Cassie is not in the home right now? Same with any of the school age children benefits, like extra food money and the like.

6 months out, is she still collecting (if she is collecting) and should she be?

 

[believe09]

Cassie is the only child that JC has custody of unless I have lost my mind-Cassie's younger sibling doesnt live with JC. I wonder if JC pays CS?

 

[Oriah]

Yup, that was the light bulb I was wondering about.

Can I take it one step further and inquire again about the picture of Cassie posted in what looks like a physicians/medical office? We need a source for that photo. Especially if it was in fact a medical visit. Only a parent, guardian, or patient (of legal age) should be able to release something like that, correct?

So....whatever services were being provided that day that the photo was taken- if provided under social services of some sort- I should be able to request info on. Since she was reported missing more than 6 months ago, I think? Need to look into this further.
If those services were provided privately, then that particular practice, or a parent or guardian, or possibly Cassie herself depending on age of consent in AK, would be the only verifiably legal source of that photo.

Am I making sense? trying to find a legally verified LSA/LKA photo.

 

[believe09]

Minor consent laws for medical treatment in Arkansas:

ARK. CODE ANN. § 20-9-602 (2012). CONSENT GENERALLY
(7) Any unemancipated minor of sufficient intelligence to understand and appreciate theconsequences of the proposed surgical or medical treatment or procedures, for himself orherself;
(11) Any adult child, for his or her mother or father of unsound mind;

ARK. CODE ANN. §20-16-508 (2012). CONSENT BY MINOR
When a minor who believes himself or herself to have a sexually transmitteddisease consents to the provision of medical care or surgical care or services by a hospitalor public clinic or consents to the performance of medical care or surgical care orservices by a physician who is licensed to practice medicine in this state, the consent A) Is valid and binding as if the minor had achieved his or her majority;and(B) Is not subject to a later disaffirmance by reason of his or her minority.(2) The consent of a spouse, parent, guardian, or any other person standing in afiduciary capacity to the minor shall not be necessary in order to authorizehospital care or services or medical or surgical care or services to be provided tothe minor by a physician licensed to practice medicine.(b) Upon the advice and direction of a treating physician or in the case of a medical staffany one (1) of them, a physician or member of a medical staff may inform the spouse,parent, or guardian of any minor as to the treatment given or needed but shall not beobligated to do so. The information may be given to or withheld from the spouseparent,or guardian without the consent and over the express objection of the minor.

LINK HERE

 

[believe09]

I remember a missing persons case I worked on where we needed some kind of imaging in order to compare the missing woman to a Jane Doe. Unfortunately, the Jane Doe was a head only and there were no full on front facing pictures of the missing woman that would have allowed for a layover imaging comparison. To further complicate things, there wasnt a family member who was willing to provide a DNA sample because of a strong distrust for law enforcement. (This happens in my experience when you have a missing person who is on the fringes of society) It was a conundrum to be sure. However, it turned out that the missing woman received Medicaid. That led us to dental services received after the woman was injured in a car accident. Which led us to her attorney for the lawsuit she filed against the other driver which led us to the hospital where she was treated in the ER which led us to a radiograph that was done of her head. Which was compared to the Jane Doe and ruled the missing woman out as being the Jane Doe.

I know, it was the house that Jack built. And boy did I learn a lot, especially how important it was to think outside of the box.

So is this the direction we are going Oriah?

 

[believe09]

BTW, I found myself in a similar situation with a pair of legs that were discovered with DNA too degraded to compare to a sample of DNA from a missing man. So following the house that Jack built model, I located a set of films of my missing man's knees because he had significant arthritis. And the ME found a forensic anthropologist to compare the two. And it ruled out the John Doe legs.

So just keep swimming, Cassie sleuthers...because we will find a way to the answers.

 

[got4lilgirls]

Balloon release planned by mother . . .

http://www.stuttgartdailyleader.com/article/20150318/NEWS/150319642/-1/Top Stories

(Front-page article today.)

 

[got4lilgirls]

Relative to Glasgow remains found on Petit Jean mountain recently . . .

http://www.katv.com/story/28556801/how-do-medical-examiners-determine-the-cause-of-death

(KATV news tonight.)