AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #1

[gitana1]

I just read this and thought it was interesting about the two girl's wedding. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-party-left-makes-sense-guest-reveals.html

It is interesting. Wow.

I met Mr CannotKeepHisHandsToHimself at school when I was seven and the reasons I didn't say anything to anybody include, I didn't really know how to put it in words. I don't think he did anything that he could have been prosecuted for, it was just making me very uncomfortable. It was at school and you are pretty much expected to do what adults say, and he had a legitimate reason to be in a private office with me. He was supposed to help me fix my speech impediment and I had never had speech therapy before so I thought maybe you need to sit so close and breath in my face and touch a lot to conduct speech therapy. Anyway, I just hated every moment of it and always sighed of relief when it ended. It's only later on that I've realized why he was so creepy, some years later he was fired for behaving inappropriately with some older girls.

I still have the speech impediment.

After I read your post I had one, four letter response that cannot be repeated here.

What's wrong with a playpen?

Nothing. But babies can be kept in it without hitting or fear. Forcing a baby through corporal punishment to remain stationary can destroy their natural inclination to explore and learn. Playpens don't have that affect as long as they are used reasonably.

:bump:

I went back and edited a post to make sure I'm in compliance. We don't want to add to their pain.

 

[Inthedetails]

"TLC may consider a Duggar spin-off as ‘19 Kids and Counting’ put in limbo over child molestation allegations "

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/tlc-duggar-spin-off-article-1.2237627

 

[Montjoy]

"TLC may consider a Duggar spin-off as ‘19 Kids and Counting’ put in limbo over child molestation allegations "

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/tlc-duggar-spin-off-article-1.2237627

If it's "The Duggars go to Prison" I'd be all for it.

 

[oh_gal]

If it's "The Duggars go to Prison" I'd be all for it.

How about, "The Duggar Girls Gain Their Freedom"?

 

[Donjeta]

Sorry to hear it Donjeta:grouphug:, at least he finally got fired for the right reason! Speech Therapy obviously wasn't what he was doing with you, and it additionally pains me, not only as a victim, but also because it maligns my former profession.

Yeah... I changed schools later and had another, female speech therapist and it felt quite different, she didn't need to crowd my personal space and it seemed like she concentrated on the speech stuff. But I guess they thought I was a lost cause by then, after having learned nothing in two years and I didn't work with her for very long. But at least I can vouch that not all speech therapists are evil

 

[Donjeta]

If it's "The Duggars go to Prison" I'd be all for it.

19 years and counting?

 

[meanmaryjean]

How about, "The Duggar Girls Gain Their Freedom"?

LOVE your avatar- my daughter lives in Greensboro/ Winston and brings carloads back to Indiana when she visits. Her siblings anxiously await her visits!

 

[Hiandmighty]

I wonder if Josh was "banished" to DC by JB in order to create distance from the family....

 

[SCHMAE]

If it's "The Duggars go to Prison" I'd be all for it.

Mont !!!!!!!! Love it !

 

[oh_gal]

LOVE your avatar- my daughter lives in Greensboro/ Winston and brings carloads back to Indiana when she visits. Her siblings anxiously await her visits!

We can only get it here in NE Ohio in very limited quantities....at Old Carolina BBQ, or in 6-packs at Heinen's...I load up when I'm down south, as well!

 

[Hiandmighty]

I wonder how long it will be before Josh and Anna have to move back, but they wont be able to stay in the family house. Watch one of the married girls get evicted from her house to make room for them.

19 implosions and counting

 

[oh_gal]

I wonder how long it will be before Josh and Anna have to move back, but they wont be able to stay in the family house. Watch one of the married girls get evicted from her house to make room for them.

19 implosions and counting

Whose house did Josh and Anna stay at the last time they were in town with the kids....when Anna presented him with the pregnancy test stick?

 

[Tony1902]

I wonder how long it will be before Josh and Anna have to move back, but they wont be able to stay in the family house. Watch one of the married girls get evicted from her house to make room for them.

19 implosions and counting

Will try to find website. Apparently Josh & wife bought a home in Siloam Springs, AK last year. There's much out there but I still can't figure out how to drag site info.

 

[oh_gal]

Will try to find website. Apparently Josh & wife bought a home in Siloam Springs, AK last year. There's much out there but I still can't figure out how to drag site info.

I think that house needs a lot of work...but it may be still be livable, if not enviable.

 

[Morag]

I can't imagine why anyone would be interested in a show about any of the Duggar clan unless it was a tell-all. A show about a couple with one child has no real handle. It takes a whole bunch of kids to make a show about dull, bigoted, uneducated people even remotely interesting.

Let the Duggar kids do what many of their generation do- work at boring jobs with low pay and little chance of advancement. That's what their parents have brought them up to do. But it's not too late for them to go to college or other kinds of vocational training.

(I'm sorry for all the kids, but they are not interesting enough to build a show around. Josh was 'given' a career, but the others won't be so lucky.)

I've actually just thought of a Duggar show I might watch: 18 Lawsuits and Counting- the Duggars go to Court. AKA- Mom, Dad- Show Us the Money.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Googled siloam springs Ar + duggar and found out they bought a foreclosed house with no plumbing and is basically just a structure. I also found out Josh owes back taxes.

ETA: I mean it is wrecked. The plumbing foundation may be there but no facilities in one bathroom. Also, appears to be black mold everywhere. Outside and inside need major renovations.

 

[MsMarple]

It just keeps getting weirder and weirder:

Hutchens now claims that the elder Duggar did not tell him the whole story. In a prison interview reported by InTouch, Hutchens said that both Jim Bob and Josh told him that Josh had molested only one victim.
...
The year after his meeting with Josh Duggar, Hutchens pleaded guilty to eight counts of possessing child after authorities searching his home computer found multiple images of “prepubescent children” being sexually abused, according to the Pulaski County document.

The document states that Hutchens’ Yahoo profile username was “dadsluv2002” and that his profile listed such interests as “Kinki Kids,” “Child Play series,” “Strangers with Candy,” “Puberty” and “Preschools.” The report also states that between 2004 and 2005, Hutchens “spent considerable time on his computer viewing child .”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...ggar_n_7454428.html?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000118

 

[CHICANA]

Oh, studies have certainly been done about the connection between the patriarchy and abuse:

How patriarchy facilitates the sexual abuse of boys.
http://www.xyonline.net/content/how-patriarchy-facilitates-sexual-abuse-boys

Rape, rape culture and the problem of patriarchy
http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/rape-rape-culture-problem-patriarchy/

Sexual Assault in Mormon Patriarchy
http://rationalfaiths.com/sexual-assault-in-mormon-patriarchy/

The Connection Between Christian Patriarchy and Sexual Abuse in the Home http://www.wadeburleson.org/2011/05/connection-between-christian-patriarchy.html

Patriarchy, Power, and Sexual Abuse among Christians
http://www.eewc.com/linkoftheday/patriarchy-power-and-sexual-abuse-among-christians/

As to this particular circle including the Duggars, that has been widely reported as well already. It is no surprising that among the Duggars' closest friends, including two that were directly involved in addressing Josh's sexual assaults, there are several scary people. Doug Phillips of Vision Forum didn;t just have an affair. He basically raped and molested a young woman who didn't know what sex was and didn't know how to say no to one of her culture's leaders, the head of a family she worked for and who was supposed to lead her while she was outside the family home. Bill Gothard, who Josh sent months with as "treatment", sexually molested several young ladies and teens involved in his home school ministry. And the state trooper who gave Josh a stern talking to was convicted on 56 counts of child . Much much more at these links, guys (so worth the read):

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...he-duggars-christian-patriarchy-movement.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...string_of_sex_abuse_scandals_rocking_the.html



In the once discredited post that had been floating around for years which has been totally accurate thus far and disclosed the Duggar family secret years ago, it was stated that the family had to subject themselves to DHS monitoring and six month check, for few years.

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First, most child molesters aren't strangers but people that the child intimately knows and the tactics they use don't involve an immediate association with pain in many cases, as a vaccine clinic would have for a child. Second, you seem to have had a particularly willful child. Good for him. The vast majority of children raised to be compliant are not like your son. Even without the harsh repressiveness of a patriarchal home.

I understand there are some who feel blanket training is okay as is the use of corporal punishment on babies and toddlers to teach unquestioning obedience. Some may have used these techniques on their own children and feel no harm was done. Studies show, however, that such practices can be quite harmful psychologically and can create the perfect victim.

Oh.. I didn't say he was raised to be compliant, he was just usually somewhat behaved in public (lol). I'm just now hearing about blanket training and thought the extent was just putting them back on the blanket when they got off, more or less redirecting their behavior. My kid is still strong willed and we clash constantly, I was thinking maybe I should have tried blanket training because imho teenagers suck.

 

[blue22]

It just keeps getting weirder and weirder:

Hutchens now claims that the elder Duggar did not tell him the whole story. In a prison interview reported by InTouch, Hutchens said that both Jim Bob and Josh told him that Josh had molested only one victim.
...
The year after his meeting with Josh Duggar, Hutchens pleaded guilty to eight counts of possessing child after authorities searching his home computer found multiple images of “prepubescent children” being sexually abused, according to the Pulaski County document.

The document states that Hutchens’ Yahoo profile username was “dadsluv2002” and that his profile listed such interests as “Kinki Kids,” “Child Play series,” “Strangers with Candy,” “Puberty” and “Preschools.” The report also states that between 2004 and 2005, Hutchens “spent considerable time on his computer viewing child .”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...ggar_n_7454428.html?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000118

I mean, does he think people will be jumping to believe him? I would not be at all surprised to find that's actually what happened. BUT, neither of them are beaming lights of morality. Plus, he STILL didn't report what he did know, which he was legally mandated to do. So, I don't know. I have a feeling the Duggars minimized the crimes from the very instant they happened and thereafter. I just wish we had a more believable or trustworthy witness to it....than this dude.

 

[oh_gal]

Googled siloam springs Ar + duggar and found out they bought a foreclosed house with no plumbing and is basically just a structure. I also found out Josh owes back taxes.

ETA: I mean it is wrecked. The plumbing foundation may be there but no facilities in one bathroom. Also, appears to be black mold everywhere. Outside and inside need major renovations.

They owe $14,000 in back taxes, from several years. Now, I totally understand how people living from paycheck to paycheck can get into a mess owing back taxes....but I'm not sure they're living paycheck to paycheck. Also, if you know you owe these taxes one year, wouldn't you somehow adjust your withholding so it doesn't happen again, and again? And with all those dependents....Anna, and the three kids....come on...there's really no "legal" reason to owe back taxes, what with all the deductions, EIC, etc. Some of those aren't available to you if you earn over a certain amount, but then, if you're making that much money...again, why aren't you adjusting your withholding so it doesn't happen year after year? I can think of all sort of reasons that people making a lot of $$ fall into tax trouble, but the reasons are usually because they didn't withhold enough money, or they're trying to evade paying taxes.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/04/josh-duggar-anna-duggar-tax-debt-owes-14000/