AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[Irisha]

I think the problem is that they are probably supporting him and his family.. The thing is this whole screwed up dynamic will make Anna feel horrible if she even has the thought of leaving. She has been endoctrinated also to be obedient to what their parents have told them. So she will not have the freedom to leave if she chooses. She will probably be made to feel she is sinning if she even considers it.

I have to say at one time I used to really enjoy this "family" show.. But the more I look at it and all that has come out of it, I just see it as a cult. A cult of a different color.

Anna would be be made to feel like a "sinner"? for what? for divorcing a pedophile/ viewer,child or adult?/ adulter'r/cheater/liar. If she forces herself to stay with this creep I hope she says "No" for a very long time.:snooty: Takes away his internet too.:drumroll:

 

[T4Tide]

Oh I agree. I think that's a line used frequently. "I don't remember". Sigh.

Honestly I don't blame them. It's their out and perhaps will help them as victims move on without a million questions and memories.

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Honestly, I don't remember. I recall bits and pieces of my years of SA. My monster was a weirdo. I remember him taking me into his dad's work shop and having me pee in mason jars. I remember my mom asking me why I was "red and raw" down there. I remember lying about that. I remember the go-kart rides as he took me to the place in the woods. I don't remember what happened there. To survive, I had to constantly not remember.

It lasted for 3 years and then suddenly stopped. Now that I'm an adult, I wonder if I got too old or if there was another little neighborhood girl to replace me. I blocked out a lot of what he did, but it wasn't until my first teenage encounter with male genitalia that I had the horrible reminder that I had so been there before. At first, my heart pounded and I felt like passing out. Then, I remembered what to do. It wasn't until I was alone in my bed that night that I knew I had done that before.

While I don't remember a large portion of the SA, I don't ever remember being pure, innocent, or untainted. That's the part that saddens me the most. (Insert hot tears here.) I look at my sweet, innocent, precious daughters, with faces just like mine, and I mourn my innocence that was taken way too soon. Children are to be cherished and protected.

 

[Bravo]

Anna would be be made to feel like a "sinner"? for what? for divorcing a pedophile/ viewer,child or adult?/ adulter'r/cheater/liar. If she forces herself to stay with this creep I hope she says "No" for a very long time.:snooty: Takes away his internet too.:drumroll:

And send her Children far away

 

[LyndyLoo]

I find the reference to and its deletion very intriguing.

is not illegal.

I hope that people who are capable can find exactly what kind of he was addicted to.

BBM~~ Well, not necessarily so..as it depends on what type of he viewed..and IF par chance it was "Child " that would completely change that equation. He mentioned viewing/addiction in his confession..but didn't specify. The past history of idling his sisters and friend of sisters kind of give a "Mindset" view" into his proclivity...So I don't necessarily agree with my bolded part above!

The quick take down and deletion of that portion of his confession online leads me to suspect that it was realized..WHOOPS!!

I couldn't agree more! Given his past actions with the addition of a addiction, I would hope that would be enough for probable cause to search his computer and it's usage.

Together with what you suggest goes with my response to above post..Yep..There is more than enough probable cause t o search his personal computer..however..me thinks that computer has been deep six'd by now!! BUT I do think LE/Child protection agency should be investigating Josh..and hey..it could also lead to investigating the whole Quiverful of JimBob's production line!!!!

If he ever appeared in a child investigation i wonder how that would work? Of course he then would be accountable to the Court but what about Anna? Would that be her fault too :gaah: :tantrum:

I doubt Anna would be charged unless and of course IF she acts in such a way to obstruct investigations..so could be an accessory..BUT at this point NAW!! I think Michelle has more to worry about than Anna at this point!!

If it came to that, a trial because of any crimes that he has/had committed, I don't think he would be alive by the beginning of the trial. Since he has been allowed to do as he pleases for so long without any real consequences, I can see him killing himself in order to not have to go to prison. He comes across as an entitled p!ssant that would not be able to live the courts holding him responsible and making him pay (prison sentence) for his crimes. And yes, Anna will always be at fault for whatever Josh does. It's her job as his wife, according to their "religion".

MOO

Who knows??? Suicide usually isn't an option in such religious cults..BUT then again..IF he did..He likely figures he's going to hell anyway....why should I have to suffer on earth?? I have NO IDEA what these people think nor how they think..It's so aberrant to me..It's like they live on another planet!

 

[Cardinal47]

When he signed up for the second AM account he paid the extra $250 for the "affair guarantee". I think it's safe to say that he cheated with other women, or was at least so willing and ready to do so that he paid extra to ensure that it happened.

MOO

Gosh I just had a terrible thought. Could this turn out like Bill Cosby???

 

[Cardinal47]

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/the-duggars-lose-25-million-and-counting-64228

Wow I never saw that amount. Thanks for the links. Imagine that...millions gone.

Well I guess they all know the saying 'you reap what you sow'!

 

[Cardinal47]

Anna would be be made to feel like a "sinner"? for what? for divorcing a pedophile/ viewer,child or adult?/ adulter'r/cheater/liar. If she forces herself to stay with this creep I hope she says "No" for a very long time.:snooty: Takes away his internet too.:drumroll:

Anna is in a position without too many options. Through the Duggers she too has grown accustomed to the 'good life'. So to return to her humble roots in her fathers home in Florida with four young children would be a burden on her family for sure.

She has no skills or education and the one that was to honor and protect her is no more.

What are her options?

 

[EllieBee]

I can tell you from my experience growing up in a fundie religion sex was always discussed at church and at home. Like "sex before marriage is wrong" "masterbation is wrong" "looking at female/male anatomy is wrong" "petting before marriage is wrong" even watching people on tv if it was risqué it was wrong.

So my point being he'd been taught in church/home that "touching" is wrong before marriage. And in this case his religious upbringing was correct.

Repressed upbringing or not he was taught this was wrong he knew it.

I agree mostly, with the exception of his assault on his sisters and the other child.

JB and MD's response, or lack thereof speaks volumes about how "seriously" they viewed the molestation of those little girls.

I honestly do not know if there was so little reaction about what would shatter a normal family because they truly believe that males are not responsible for managing their own lustful feelings, or because they were worried about losing the gravy train.

Either way, the girls were a casualty and frankly, not even really considered at all.

They have treated Joshie like the victim. I find it odd that they are so zealous about repressing every aspect of natural sexual behavior, and yet treat the abuse of their own daughters as "no biggie".

This should serve as a cautionary tale for zealots of all belief systems: you may be creating a monster.

 

[EllieBee]

He has a wife and four little children.

It is all about what he wants. Whatever it may be, he is entitled to it, Sex is one thing, but I bet he is entitled in plenty of other ways as well.

He may be repressed, but he must be having sex with his wife as often as he wants to with her. Her feelings are simply not important enough to him.

It is all about him.

Well, he had an excellent role model. Women are there for the sole purpose of servicing their man. And breeding themselves right into uterine prolapse.

Thus sayeth the Duggar.

 

[Walk A Mile]

Anna is in a position without too many options. Through the Duggers she too has grown accustomed to the 'good life'. So to return to her humble roots in her fathers home in Florida with four young children would be a burden on her family for sure.

She has no skills or education and the one that was to honor and protect her is no more.

What are her options?

I doubt that returning to her family is even an option. They'd want nothing to do with her if she couldn't forgive her husband and they'd disown her if she divorced.

 

[EllieBee]

I have searched but have not found a thing as to how Josh is supporting himself and his Family since returning to Arkansas. I would think some kind of work for Jim Bob???

Or Mike Huckabee? Or Justin Harris? So many appealing options for the young fundie hypocrite!

 

[human]

Anna is in a position without too many options. Through the Duggers she too has grown accustomed to the 'good life'. So to return to her humble roots in her fathers home in Florida with four young children would be a burden on her family for sure.

She has no skills or education and the one that was to honor and protect her is no more.

What are her options?

Money from the Duggars. Big money. Go to school, Learn to do a job.

Millions of women do it!

 

[blue22]

Not me. And I am not blaming victims or casting doubt on them. They were kids at the time.

I do however wonder if these were the only ones involved.

Even if they did not know at the time, it does not matter. Anyone who has been sexually abused will tell you, that a whole new layer of pain happens when you are old enough to grasp what happened. Kids can go years not knowing what happened to them and some can even not be as impacted in those years. But when the brain and body understands what has happened...it opens the wounds and the pain and betrayal is new and intense. These girls were conditioned to believe that nothing serious happened and it was no big deal. Many children who were abused are. However, we all know that abuse manifests in life, whether the victim can recognize that or not. Not knowing at the time (I believe they did) does not save them from hurt.

ETA: Sorry, I accidentally quoted the wrong post.

 

[Cardinal47]

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Honestly, I don't remember. I recall bits and pieces of my years of SA. My monster was a weirdo. I remember him taking me into his dad's work shop and having me pee in mason jars. I remember my mom asking me why I was "red and raw" down there. I remember lying about that. I remember the go-kart rides as he took me to the place in the woods. I don't remember what happened there. To survive, I had to constantly not remember.

It lasted for 3 years and then suddenly stopped. Now that I'm an adult, I wonder if I got too old or if there was another little neighborhood girl to replace me. I blocked out a lot of what he did, but it wasn't until my first teenage encounter with male genitalia that I had the horrible reminder that I had so been there before. At first, my heart pounded and I felt like passing out. Then, I remembered what to do. It wasn't until I was alone in my bed that night that I knew I had done that before.

While I don't remember a large portion of the SA, I don't ever remember being pure, innocent, or untainted. That's the part that saddens me the most. (Insert hot tears here.) I look at my sweet, innocent, precious daughters, with faces just like mine, and I mourn my innocence that was taken way too soon. Children are to be cherished and protected.

And many remember like it was yesterday. Just saying...

I recently read the statistics on molestation and it's really a wonder anybody escapes. We women know and we know what you did or intended to do. Some girls are lucky and they have a safe haven of a mom or dad that protects them. Some don't.

Some just say 'I don't remember' but we do, we certainly do remember.

 

[EllieBee]

A few things.

The police report contradicts the "girls didn't know what was happening to them until JB and Michelle told them" carp. At least one of the girls went to the "parents" (yes I used it like that because they are to me just the sperm and egg donors) and told on Josh, THEN Josh "came clean" to his "parents". One incident was in the laundry room. Better believe that child knew what he was doing to her as she was NOT asleep. Another incident was when a child was sitting on Josh's lap for him to "read a book to her". Again, that child knew what he was doing to her as she was NOT asleep. The "girls didn't know anything until we told them" is a big freaking lie made up by JB and Michelle to make it "not so bad".

In the Duggar religion, if one choses to look at their literature, it is always the victim's fault that she was molested. It is also at times the parents fault if they do not teach their daughters to be modest at all times. Boys can be "tempted" by changing the diaper of a sister. Let's let that one sink in a bit. A baby, in a diaper, is a temptation to a male that is changing their diaper. While Josh was "punished" by being sent to help build a house or some such BS, the girls were punished more harshly IMO. The girls were made to all share one room, with a lock on the door, to wear long pants under their skirts, to be responsible for their brothers lusting if they dressed or behaved "immodestly", did NOT get the help from respected drs that they desperately needed and were forced to "forgive" their brother even if they weren't ready to at that time. The girls have been raised to know that they are second class citizens while their brothers are the favored children. The girls are simply there to raise babies, do housework, do whatever their father (and then husband when they marry) says and to have LOTS of children. The girls were the ones responsible for keeping an eye out for worldly "immodestly" dressed women/girls and telling their brothers/father "Nike" so they would not look and be tempted. ALL of the pressure is on the girls. Not on the boys. If any of the children would have a dysfunctional life because of their upbringing, such as experimenting or having sexual issues, it seems to me that it would be the severely repressed girls and not the better than the other sex boys.

Josh knew what he was doing was wrong. Josh also knew that he would get away with it and he has for the most part. His "parents" covered for him even going to the extreme of not allowing him to be interviewed by police. Josh has not been forced to actually speak in public about what all he has done. His victims (two of them anyway) were forced to excuse him, talk highly of him, say that it wasn't a big deal, etc on national tv though. Once again, the son gets off easy while the girls get the short end of the stick. Josh makes me sick. JB and Michelle make me sick. I wish that ALL of the remaining children would be removed from their home and able to heal from the brainwashing their have endured since their birth. Anna needs to think about herself and her children, but she won't. She will stay with him and make excuses for him no matter what he does to her. And that is a shame. It's a shame that this cycle is going to continue all in the name of their "religion".

MOO

Post of the MONTH.

 

[EllieBee]

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Honestly, I don't remember. I recall bits and pieces of my years of SA. My monster was a weirdo. I remember him taking me into his dad's work shop and having me pee in mason jars. I remember my mom asking me why I was "red and raw" down there. I remember lying about that. I remember the go-kart rides as he took me to the place in the woods. I don't remember what happened there. To survive, I had to constantly not remember.

It lasted for 3 years and then suddenly stopped. Now that I'm an adult, I wonder if I got too old or if there was another little neighborhood girl to replace me. I blocked out a lot of what he did, but it wasn't until my first teenage encounter with male genitalia that I had the horrible reminder that I had so been there before. At first, my heart pounded and I felt like passing out. Then, I remembered what to do. It wasn't until I was alone in my bed that night that I knew I had done that before.

While I don't remember a large portion of the SA, I don't ever remember being pure, innocent, or untainted. That's the part that saddens me the most. (Insert hot tears here.) I look at my sweet, innocent, precious daughters, with faces just like mine, and I mourn my innocence that was taken way too soon. Children are to be cherished and protected.

T4tide: (((hugs)))

I am so sorry.

 

[Friday Fan]

Viral Christian Pregnancy YouTuber Sam Rader Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account
http://gawker.com/viral-christian-pregnancy-youtuber-sam-rader-had-a-paid-1725258643

Sam, whose new “manager” told the Daily Mail from a vlogger conference in Seattle that “we are not going to comment on this right now,” has done such a good job marketing his Christian family values on YouTube that he quit his job this month to vlog full time.

Spewing this kind of biblically sanctioned bigotry can be incredibly lucrative. Buzzfeed reports that the Raders are now likely making $9.60 per 1,000 non-skippable ad views, which “could easily lead to a six-figure salary for the channel if they can maintain even just a fraction of their recent numbers.” Additionally, the Raders have leveraged their online hybrid of neo-televangelism, reality TV, and viral performance into sponsorship deals with Audible and Naturebox.

Christian Vlogger Couple Admits Pregnancy Was "Staged"...By God Himself
http://gawker.com/christian-vlogger-couple-admits-pregnancy-was-staged-1724624391

Daily Mail link with pics etc: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-Madison.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
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One of my pet peeves are religious profiteers. I don't know why these people bother me so much. Maybe because they "prey" on a vulnerability that is indoctrinated in many Christians from a young age. (For some reason other types of scams don't get under my skin as much). I could care less that this guy is on AM, but I do care that he is using Christianity to make a quick buck.

 

[cady]

Ummmm.....Silence might be his best bet! No telling who is on the AM site! No telling who, in Arkansas' high places, might have an account! I figure with that many account holders, we all know someone...

Ewwww. I can't imagine Huckabee doing the dance.......ick. JMO

 

[cady]

Anna would be be made to feel like a "sinner"? for what? for divorcing a pedophile/ viewer,child or adult?/ adulter'r/cheater/liar. If she forces herself to stay with this creep I hope she says "No" for a very long time.:snooty: Takes away his internet too.:drumroll:

JMO She'll stay with him, despite her first obligation as a mom to raise healthy well-adjusted children. She drank the kool aid, so she believes that her first obligation is to creepsville.....JMO

 

[SCHMAE]

JMO She'll stay with him, despite her first obligation as a mom to raise healthy well-adjusted children. She drank the kool aid, so she believes that her first obligation is to creepsville.....JMO

I agree but I also wonder if she will be insisting on some birth control and having no more babies . Four is a perfectly reasonable amount of kids for someone who is an admitted child molester. JS