AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

[bluesneakers]

Viral Christian Pregnancy YouTuber Sam Rader Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account
http://gawker.com/viral-christian-pregnancy-youtuber-sam-rader-had-a-paid-1725258643







Christian Vlogger Couple Admits Pregnancy Was "Staged"...By God Himself
http://gawker.com/christian-vlogger-couple-admits-pregnancy-was-staged-1724624391

Daily Mail link with pics etc: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-Madison.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
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One of my pet peeves are religious profiteers. I don't know why these people bother me so much. Maybe because they "prey" on a vulnerability that is indoctrinated in many Christians from a young age. (For some reason other types of scams don't get under my skin as much). I could care less that this guy is on AM, but I do care that he is using Christianity to make a quick buck.

Confession: This is the first time the AM scandal brought a smile to my face.

I feel shame.

 

[bluesneakers]

I agree but I also wonder if she will be insisting on some birth control and having no more babies . Four is a perfectly reasonable amount of kids for someone who is an admitted child molester. JS

Wouldn't birth control be just as sinful as denying him? God might want them to have more children. Plus now that he's confessed he's probably cured and will go forth and sin no more.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Viral Christian Pregnancy YouTuber Sam Rader Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account
http://gawker.com/viral-christian-pregnancy-youtuber-sam-rader-had-a-paid-1725258643







Christian Vlogger Couple Admits Pregnancy Was "Staged"...By God Himself
http://gawker.com/christian-vlogger-couple-admits-pregnancy-was-staged-1724624391

Daily Mail link with pics etc: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-Madison.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
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One of my pet peeves are religious profiteers. I don't know why these people bother me so much. Maybe because they "prey" on a vulnerability that is indoctrinated in many Christians from a young age. (For some reason other types of scams don't get under my skin as much). I could care less that this guy is on AM, but I do care that he is using Christianity to make a quick buck.

Bravo. I personally do my own happy dance every time a hypocrite gets outed --- male boy prostitutes, gay scandals, cheater, love them all.

 

[Inthedetails]

Wouldn't birth control be just as sinful as denying him? God might want them to have more children. Plus now that he's confessed he's probably cured and will go forth and sin no more.

If he had an affair, did he use birth control?

 

[SCHMAE]

Wouldn't birth control be just as sinful as denying him? God might want them to have more children. Plus now that he's confessed he's probably cured and will go forth and sin no more.

If I was her and forced to stay in the marriage, the method of birth control would BE denying him and hope he runs off with his favorite mistress

 

[bluesneakers]

Bravo. I personally do my own happy dance every time a hypocrite gets outed --- male boy prostitutes, gay scandals, cheater, love them all.

:highfive:

 

[Tony1902]

I agree but I also wonder if she will be insisting on some birth control and having no more babies . Four is a perfectly reasonable amount of kids for someone who is an admitted child molester. JS

Unfortunately it's too late, but no kids is so much better.

 

[SCHMAE]

http://www.khou.com/story/life/2015/08/21/duggars-ex-employer-denounces-his-new-scandal/32129687/

''The Family Research Council, the powerful family-values lobbyist in Washington that once employed disgraced Josh Duggar, is denouncing him — again — now that he's exposed himself as a hypocrite, cheater and addict thanks to the Ashley Madison scandal.'''

 

[Frigga]

http://www.khou.com/story/life/2015/08/21/duggars-ex-employer-denounces-his-new-scandal/32129687/

''The Family Research Council, the powerful family-values lobbyist in Washington that once employed disgraced Josh Duggar, is denouncing him — again — now that he's exposed himself as a hypocrite, cheater and addict thanks to the Ashley Madison scandal.'''

Exactly how many times does someone get to be "denounced" by this group?

 

[Irisha]

Anna is in a position without too many options. Through the Duggers she too has grown accustomed to the 'good life'. So to return to her humble roots in her fathers home in Florida with four young children would be a burden on her family for sure.

She has no skills or education and the one that was to honor and protect her is no more.

What are her options?

parents who would shun their child and grandchildren for sins of the father should be ashamed and shunned themselves. Anna does not deserve to live in the shadow of Josh's misdeeds and disrespect for her and kids. She does have options, which are better than living with the discusting lying loser she is stuck with now. I may not have the faith she has, as any man who treated our marriage and children like that would be kicked to the curb so fast his head would spin fast than Reagan's in The Exorcist. It's a matter of love, trust, respect, Josh has shown none toward his wife. Anna does NOT needs to live with his nasty behavior, which becomes very public. I do wish her well. She does have options.:moo: I'll just bet Momma and Poppa Duggar are coddling Josh. But will the older sisters will "forgive him this time"?ick

 

[seattlechiquita]

I know Gawker is not precisely the NYTimes, but this is a pretty good summary of the Quiverfull movement the Duggars are part of. Good read. As a woman, the entire operation insults me.

http://gawker.com/quiverfull-of-****-a-guide-to-the-duggars-scary-brand-1706557073

 

[LinasK]

Viral Christian Pregnancy YouTuber Sam Rader Had a Paid Ashley Madison Account
http://gawker.com/viral-christian-pregnancy-youtuber-sam-rader-had-a-paid-1725258643






Christian Vlogger Couple Admits Pregnancy Was "Staged"...By God Himself
http://gawker.com/christian-vlogger-couple-admits-pregnancy-was-staged-1724624391

Daily Mail link with pics etc: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-Madison.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
______________________________________________________________________

One of my pet peeves are religious profiteers. I don't know why these people bother me so much. Maybe because they "prey" on a vulnerability that is indoctrinated in many Christians from a young age. (For some reason other types of scams don't get under my skin as much). I could care less that this guy is on AM, but I do care that he is using Christianity to make a quick buck.

I watched those two videos on a link from Facebook, and he creeped me out from the start, but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then they had the Chutzpah to call it a miscarriage and a baby when in reality she was 2 weeks along, so probably never really pregnant,and who steals their wife's urine to test it??? It's gross that she didn't flush it, and why hadn't she tested? And if you think the pregnancy won't last, you wait 'till the 2nd tri-mester to announce it. They are not being persecuted for being Christian, if they are being persecuted, it's because of their sanctimony and hoaxing. Glad to know he values his wife so much he cheats on her!!!

 

[gitana1]

Because my point is being missed.

"Christian" extremists aren't Christians at all. Granted, it is not in my power to know or judge anyone's heart, but scripture says to “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." Matthew 7:15-20

For instance, an abortion clinic bomber. That isn't a true Christian! That's a religious nut! A true Christian wouldn't murder those who need Jesus the most! We are called to show His Love to others. Everyone who labels themselves Christian isn't Christian. Some think that just means attending a Christian church or they are Christian because their parents are. This isn't how true Christianity works. Christianity is the following of Christ. Not the old law. Christ is light, purity, holiness, love, kindness, and comforting. He was meek and respectful. On the road to His Cross, He never lashed out, cursed anyone, or resorted to violence. Why, in Heaven's Name, should we, then? What did He do instead?? He asked MERCY and FORGIVENESS on His tormentors. Christians should detest evil and flee from it!

I have chosen to follow Him. My heart (and the Bible) tells me that LOVE is the answer. It endures all things, and surpasses all things. No matter what the world does or says, even those who claim to be followers of the same man, I believe that following Him means truly living like Him. It does sadden me to the core that because so many people have shown evil and hatred in Jesus' Name that our current world can't even see who He really was.

MOO

If you used the word "true" I think your point would've been very clear:

I just wanted to point out that there could never be a true Cristian nation formed out of a southern state where they stoned people.

But I've agreed wholeheartedly with everything you've said- about forgiveness and Christianity, etc.

 

[Montjoy]

If you used the word "true" I think your point would've been very clear:


But I've agreed wholeheartedly with everything you've said- about forgiveness and Christianity, etc.

Forgive the OT: I agree with the value of forgiveness and the gospel of love -- but talking about 'true Christians' reminds me of a logical fallacy known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy --

"No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing").[2]"

Example:

"Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge."
Person A: "Ah yes, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

The essayist Spengler compared distinguishing between "mature" democracies, which never start wars, and "emerging democracies", which may start them, with the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. Spengler alleges that "political scientists" have attempted to save the "US academic dogma" that democracies never start wars from counterexamples by maintaining that no true democracy starts a war.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

 

[Doghairrules]

It's the molesting that has me the most disturbed. Still. I worry for the Girls and how they really processed. Deep down. Repressed the acts and then the Forgiveness they were brainwashed into? IMO

I also wonder how it works for them now that they know josh isn't a "changed man." That's gotta bring up some yucky stuff.


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[bluesneakers]

Forgive the OT: I agree with the value of forgiveness and the gospel of love -- but talking about 'true Christians' reminds me of a logical fallacy known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy --

"No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.[1] When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing"), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing").[2]"

Example:

"Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge."
Person A: "Ah yes, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

The essayist Spengler compared distinguishing between "mature" democracies, which never start wars, and "emerging democracies", which may start them, with the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. Spengler alleges that "political scientists" have attempted to save the "US academic dogma" that democracies never start wars from counterexamples by maintaining that no true democracy starts a war.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

I was thinking the same thing about the fallacy. Plus I think all kinds of Christians would consider themselves "true" Christians, and I know of some Christians who think Mormons and Catholics (and probably others) aren't Christians. Would a Catholic nation be a "true" Christian nation? What about a Southern Baptist nation? Etc.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I think something irritating to me is that I am seeing "Christians" coming out and admitting their sin as part of this bigger breach and scandal.. However they are not admitting it at all.

They have been outed and are now basically saving face and asking for forgiveness blah blah blah.. but had they not been outed they would still most likely be participating in the behavior. So to me that is a more I am sorry I got caught than sorry for the behavior.

It is more than hypocritical to me. It is way worse.
It is one thing to live your life and make mistakes but it is another thing entirely to point fingers at people and tell them how to live when your own house is such a disaster.

Stop trying to save face and go away and get right..

 

[sorrell skye]

Money from the Duggars. Big money. Go to school, Learn to do a job.

Millions of women do it!

Yes - millions of women do it, but how many girls/young women from the Quiverfull families are taught from a young age that they have the option of going to college and/or pursuing a career outside the home? I would venture a guess that very few (if any) of the Quiverfull girls are taught that they can seek higher education or that they can pursue a career if they choose to do so.

When girls are indoctrinated from a young age that their only option when they reach adulthood is to find a husband to marry, to depend upon and to submit to their husband in all things, that their highest and sole purpose in life is to procreate, it can be nigh impossible to overcome that type of conditioning - especially when that doctrine is taught by both one's parents and by one's entire community/support system.

 

[cady]

Summer I rarely watch tv. Would rather be outside. Sometimes TV is survival during a harsh Canadian winter LOL. I watch all the Housewives for something mindless. I luv the "The little Couple" and the "Rolloff's" (which now just do specials)

"Reality" TV is fiction, the way I see it ....so for 70bucks a month for Dish, all I really watch is news, which is rarely NEWS. ALJAM is a good network because they cover global news and spend very little time on American politics and the nonsense it engenders at least, compared to other networks. Interesting interviews, too. JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Josh and Rader remind me of the self-proclaimed Christians I grew up among who condescended to me because I wasn't Christian, yet exhibited all kinds of hateful beliefs and behavior that I would never dream of engaging in because they violated the moral code I was brought up with.

All the while justifying it because as Christians, they were forgiven their sins. (If they even thought of their behavior as sinful, but most of them lacked the self-awareness to do so.) What a useful get-out-of-jail-free card.

Josh (BBM): "I have been the biggest hypocrite ever." Still so self-important, even in disgrace. Probably not even the biggest hypocrite in Arkansas.