GUILTY AR - Malik Drummond, 2, Searcy, 23 Nov 2014 - #1

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  • #721
(imo, judging from the step mom's fb, she seems to be quite loved by her peers, jmo)
 
  • #722
Does the house have a basement? tia
 
  • #723
I find the lack of emotion on the news vids of the family members poignant...reminds me a bit of the UK Shannon Matthews case..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Shannon_Matthews


Can anyone find any news links from 10 year ago on the circumstances surrounding the fathers son whom died...?
 
  • #724
Well thank you. I didn't watch the video, just read the article. Lesley has 6 kids... oldest is 7 years old. I think she has the youngest 2 living with her.

Wow. She does not seem older than 25 or so. Are any half siblings to Malik?
 
  • #725
(FWIW, IMO I don't give a whole lot of validity to polygraph results...I think polygraphs can be fooled; conversely I think there can be false positives, JMO)
 
  • #726
26 I think, and it appears at least the youngest is half sibling to Malik, possibly both of the youngest.
 
  • #727
I find the lack of emotion on the news vids of the family members poignant...reminds me a bit of the UK Shannon Matthews case..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Shannon_Matthews


Can anyone find any news links from 10 year ago on the circumstances surrounding the fathers son whom died...?

(O/T; wow, thanks for posting. I had actually asked upstream if there were any cases like this (I just remembered Skibaboo posted something about a case involving money, forgot to read it, going back, thx for the reminder.)

From the above link:

"Shannon Louise Matthews (born 9 September 1998) is a British girl who disappeared on the afternoon of 19 February 2008 in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, England.[1] The search for her became a major missing person police operation which was compared to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.[2] She was found on 14 March 2008 at a house in Batley Carr, a short distance from Dewsbury. The house belonged to 39-year-old Michael Donovan, uncle of Craig Meehan - the boyfriend of the kidnapped girl's mother, Karen. The kidnapping was subsequently discovered to have been planned by Karen and Donovan in order to generate money from the publicity. Donovan was to have eventually "found" Shannon, taken her to a police station and claimed the reward money, which would be split between Donovan and Karen."

eta: yikes, it says Donovan had child porn on his computer, but that was found to be unrelated to the case. )
 
  • #728
(I see a thread 2 in our future...:( )
 
  • #729
Hmm that is interesting, why have they said this? I have no idea.. Does make you wonder, and gives that post by Mom's friend on fb a little credit. I have considered the autism thing was added to maybe give them reason for an AA?

Maybe they just assumed. We know lots of people self diagnosis. Maybe some said he's not quite up to speed on this or that ' threshold' for his age '' maybe he's autistic' and the parents just assumed he was. **speculative**
 
  • #730
Thanks for linking. Autism Speaks is a great organization.
 
  • #731
(Ugh, all these thoughts are going through my mind, is he trapped in someone's shed somewhere, wandered off and got locked in? argh)
 
  • #732
Thanks for linking. Autism Speaks is a great organization.

You're welcome. They are indeed a great organization.
 
  • #733
(Schmae, any news on your friend Baljeev?)
 
  • #734
(slightly O/T, a question FWIW, not saying this is the case here BUT out of curiosity, I am interested in the stats involving cases where a death in the home of a small child (either accidental or otherwise) and resulting cover up occurs, as far as disposal sites, methods, distance to site from home, etc...I haven't followed a lot of those types of cases, but wondering if there is some sort of pattern that can be identified...if anyone can name some cases I can research for this purpose I would greatly appreciate it. tia)

(I remember oceanblueeyes mentioned in another thread that often, if a mother is responsible for the death of her child, the child is often found "swaddled in a blanket", perhaps buried, iirc.)

With babies like Ayla, , Myra, Lisa Irwin, Haleigh C....how do we know if maybe they died accidentally or negligently in some way and were hidden to cover it up? If so, they were hidden so well they may never be found.
 
  • #735
With babies like Ayla, , Myra, Lisa Irwin, Haleigh C....how do we know if maybe they died accidentally or negligently in some way and were hidden to cover it up? If so, they were hidden so well they may never be found.

this is troubling...
 
  • #736
One thing I think is interesting/noteworthy:

Mom's comment:
"Drummond said, "We think he was kidnapped, but we're not sure. Worse comes to worst, that's what we think."

Notice, she did not automatically accuse the father or stepmother of any possible involvement? Remember, in Dylan Redwine's case, his mother Elaine and brother Cory, the first thing they said (and have always said) was that they suspect Dylan's dad, Mark.
 
  • #737
(so far in the cases I'm coming across re: family involvement, it seems the remains were found in the woods, close to home (Caylee, Mikaeel)...I'm going to drop Foxfire a line and see what he/she has to say about this (common disposal methods/sites/distance as related to deaths in home of small children).
 
  • #738
One thing I think is interesting/noteworthy:

Mom's comment:
"Drummond said, "We think he was kidnapped, but we're not sure. Worse comes to worst, that's what we think."

Notice, she did not automatically accuse the father or stepmother of any possible involvement? Remember, in Dylan Redwine's case, his mother Elaine and brother Cory, the first thing they said (and have always said) was that they suspect Dylan's dad, Mark.

Also she said " we " as if this is a jointly agreed upon idea. She did not say " I " think......
 
  • #739
I also feel something happened within the home. Whether the dad was sleeping or not, I don't know, but I can see it being plausible. . . more so than someone who up and decides to take a bath in the midst of dinner while watching two kids. I am under the impression that dad and stepmom have only been together a matter of months. If something happened to Malik under her watch, I think it's possible she would hide it from the dad. . . especially if she may be the type that cares more about herself and losing her man than the life of a child. (OF COURSE, She may not be like that at all. This is just speculation.)

The more I think about it the less I believe both would know. I can see no reason both would lie about it if some kind of accident happened.

The only way I see dad knowing has more to do with parental abduction and him hiding his son, his boy.

As far as the biomother is concerned. I really dont believe she had involvement. I don't really think she would seperate her twins like that.

I don't think Biomom had anything to do with it. With regards to a custody battle, I can see a father of two wanting each parent to take a child. If their incomes are comparable, neither would pay child support. But, with one child missing, that doesn't really benefit dad. Because if the one twin sibling went to mom, he'd have to pay child support. (If CS and custody is an issue, it may not be.)

Are dad and step mom married? Why would they be calling a girl friend step mom?
 
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