Are the protesters trespassing???

[RoseRed]

Oh come on seriously if I had a crap load of nutt jobs wailing outside my house for days straight I would probably already be in jail and im not even a violent person!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[Elley Mae]

This is the point I have tried to make,sidewalks in neighbor hoods are public domain,and I have never seen a situation where it belongs to the resident. The grassy area in front of the sidewalk is not the property owners,but the owner is responsible for it's upkeep. Which is one reason why some home owners (think) that it is theirs.

 

[loveless]

I agree. Technically, they may not be trespassing, but they could be charged with disorderly conduct if they get too out of hand. Instead of asking the Anthonys why they are not out searching for Caylee, someone needs to ask them that. Searching for Caylee would be a lot more productive than harassing the family.

 

[CeeKer]

I posted this on the other protester thread but I'll put it here too

There's so many sides to the protestor vs. Anthony argument. A lot of good arguments on both sides.

When I first started lurking here back in the beginning of August, I felt soooo sorry for the Anthony's. But now, I just can't help wanting to shout at them myself. People just want answers and the Anthony's seem incapable of understanding that. So instead of calming the situation they feed into the anger. Which just makes some people want to shout at them more. Right, wrong, legal, not.... I don't know.

But I do know the Anthony's haven't done anything to STOP this mess. They wouldn't need to do much either I think for people to stop being sooo angry at them... If they'd search for Caylee, cry, act like at least SOME of this was their daughter's fault or responsibility, feed the searchers, THANK anybody.. But they do nothing but incite it more. People are intitled to think what they want... but me... No sympathy, none at all.

 

[FLSleuth]

But I do know the Anthony's haven't done anything to STOP this mess. They wouldn't need to do much either I think for people to stop being sooo angry at them... If they'd search for Caylee, cry, act like at least SOME of this was their daughter's fault or responsibility, feed the searchers, THANK anybody.. But they do nothing but incite it more. People are intitled to think what they want... but me... No sympathy, none at all.

(Respectfully snipped.)

Not only have they done nothing to soothe the situation, they outright ANTAGONIZE the public with their bitter remarks (especially against those who try to help them, searchers, Tim Miller and crew, etc.) and their incessant yellow tape, security cameras, and "no trespassing" signs.....not to mention nose-to-nose confrontations with the protesters.! How sad all this energy and $$ isn't going to search for Caylee.

 

[Vahlaria]

Although legally the A's do not own the sidewalk property, and yes protesters do have the legal right to be there, I do have to 1. agree that they should have been out looking this weekend if they feel so strongly about Caylee, and 2. if they truely feel they have to protest, they should at least be a bit more sensitive to the people in the area, and the A's as well. Irregardless of how any of us feel about them, or what we think we may or may not know, having a mob of people in front of your house screaming is going to scare the who-ha, out of everyone around. Even if your standpoint is Caylee's rights have been violated (which I agree with), it takes a second for things to go wrong, and some other innoncent person could very well loose their life in the process.

I wish the protesters would be more aware of this, as I think enough blood has been spilled, so to speak, in this case as it is. Adding fuel to the fire in this situation is just going to make things worse, not better, imo.

 

[CeeKer]

(Respectfully snipped.)

Not only have they done nothing to soothe the situation, they outright ANTAGONIZE the public with their bitter remarks (especially against those who try to help them, searchers, Tim Miller and crew, etc.) and their incessant yellow tape, security cameras, and "no trespassing" signs.....not to mention nose-to-nose confrontations with the protesters.! How sad all this energy and $$ isn't going to search for Caylee.

Exactly! I think my biggest turning point in my not feeling bad for them was when they treated Tim Miller the way they did. WHO could be mean (or whatever you want to call it) to that SAINT??? I look at him and want to cry!

 

[CeeKer]

(Respectfully snipped) I think enough blood has been spilled, so to speak, in this case as it is. Adding fuel to the fire in this situation is just going to make things worse, not better, imo.

But that's my point, the Anthony's could stop this before it goes to far... Stay in the house, act HUMAN, something and people would go away I think. I'm not saying who's right or wrong in this just that the only ones who can stop it, or at least calm it down, do nothing....

 

[Vahlaria]

But that's my point, the Anthony's could stop this before it goes to far... Stay in the house, act HUMAN, something and people would go away I think. I'm not saying who's right or wrong in this just that the only ones who can stop it, or at least calm it down, do nothing....

I definately agree, and they should be doing something. They know they're making things worse, and who knows why they're letting things get out of hand. However, GA is getting more and more angry, and when I look at him, I see someone that very well could have anger management issues. I think he very well may snap before a protester does.

Sadly, if the A's can not difuse the situation, as with everything else in this case, it lies to others to difuse it. I get the feeling responsibility for one's actions is not a strong point in the A family.

 

[seeker78]

I can't help but point out that if George/Cindy resort to violence when they are angry, the apple can't fall far from the tree.

 

[nativeSFL]

The 2008 Florida Statutes
784.011 Assault.--

(1) An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.

(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
Title XLVI
CRIMES

Chapter 784

784.021 Aggravated assault.--

(1) An "aggravated assault" is an assault:

(a) With a deadly weapon without intent to kill; or

(b) With an intent to commit a felony.

(2) Whoever commits an aggravated assault shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

 

[nativeSFL]

2008 FL STATUTES

BATTERY:
784.03 Battery; felony battery.--

(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:

1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or

2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.

(b) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who commits battery commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(2) A person who has one prior conviction for battery, aggravated battery, or felony battery and who commits any second or subsequent battery commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. For purposes of this subsection, "conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or a trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld or a plea of nolo contendere is entered.

784.045 Aggravated battery.--

(1)(a) A person commits aggravated battery who, in committing battery:

1. Intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement; or

2. Uses a deadly weapon.

(b) A person commits aggravated battery if the person who was the victim of the battery was pregnant at the time of the offense and the offender knew or should have known that the victim was pregnant.

(2) Whoever commits aggravated battery shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

 

[passiveactivist]

So how many agree it is OK for people to congregate in front of an individual's house for protest against an unproven possible crime and disrupt an entire neighborhood for this cause?

 

[icherish]

We keep hearing about the no trespassing signs and whether the property goes to the road, so I went to the tax office site and got this picture. Note the red outline was put there by the tax office not me.

So the answer is NO, the Anthony's do not own the property between the sidewalk and the road.

Link to website:

http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/g...=on&DI_3=on&DI_4=on&DI_5=on&DI_6=on&x=43&y=13

Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
I do not own the grass strip on the curb line in front of my property/home, (non HOA) yet I am mandated by county zoning ordinance to properly maintain that piece of land or be cited on a zoning violation. Since I am LEGALLY responsible for it, and spend time and money maintaining it, it seems wrong that I can't ask people to keep off of it...but legally I can't.

As for the protesters: IMO they need to project their energies elsewhere. They may be frustrated and angry, (I am too) but inserting themselves and their innocent children into the Casey show via the media/webcams is only adding to the horror of all this. This action has not and will not lead to anything positive whatsoever. It is violating to the innocent neighbors and it certainly will not help find Caylee. If they truly wanted to make a difference with their time and efforts, they would stay away from that house and volunteer with the search, organize and/or facilitate fundraising for TES, etc. JMO.

 

[nativeSFL]

So how many agree it is OK for people to congregate in front of an individual's house for protest against an unproven possible crime and disrupt an entire neighborhood for this cause?

I agree that people have the right to peacefully protest in front of someone's home. The entire community & the nation have been disrupted by the A family for "losing" their child/grandchild. People have worked tirelessly & given of themselves & their wallets to help find Caylee. Yet, the As have done NOTHING but LIE.
I do not agree w/ the antics of some of the protesters. Screaming, badgering, etc.

 

[SuziQ]

So how many agree it is OK for people to congregate in front of an individual's house for protest against an unproven possible crime and disrupt an entire neighborhood for this cause?

I doesn't matter if we agree it's ok or not. Both sides, the protesters and the Anthony's need to be held to the law. There have been violations on both sides.

 

[nativeSFL]

I doesn't matter if we agree it's ok or not. Both sides, the protesters and the Anthony's need to be held to the law. There have been violations on both sides.

:clap:

 

[Vahlaria]

So how many agree it is OK for people to congregate in front of an individual's house for protest against an unproven possible crime and disrupt an entire neighborhood for this cause?

Well, legally yes, people do have the right to protest anything they wish as long as it's peaceful, and they are doing it within the letter of the law.

Now, morally? I have no idea how I feel about it to be honest. I do think it's not fair to put an entire neighborhood through all of this when it is one house hold that is the issue. If people want to be heard, there are other places they could go, a park or somewhere that would not be intrusive to the neighborhood, and the media will follow them. It's not as if people really need to be in front of the house for the A's to know their feelings, I'm sure they watch the news like the rest of us.

It is ironic imo, that there are so many protesters out there angry and hurt because of Caylee, and what has happened, when I'm sure there are other children in that neighborhood that are potentially being put at risk with a small throng of people milling about.

 

[Katie526]

JMO - I think it's digusting that people stand outside their home and cause this chaos. What a shame.

 

[Katie526]

Victim Larry Donovan, 34, told a deputy that he was standing near the Anthony home when "Mr. Anthony lunged at him, grabbed both of his arms, and pushed him back 3 to 4 feet toward the roadway," according to the report. Donovan was not injured but told the deputy he was "shaken" by the incident.

Another victim, Patricia Young, 65, told a deputy that Anthony grabbed her arm and pushed her into the street. She was "upset" after the incident


Then don't put yourself in the situation. I don't feel sorry for these 2 people at all.