Are the Ramseys involved or not?

[narlacat]

Prints can be "wiped" from batteries by just placing them in a plastic bag. And you are assuming it is a random intruder but it's possible she knew her attacker.

Toltec doesnt assume it was a random intruder.

 

[Toltec]

Prints can be "wiped" from batteries by just placing them in a plastic bag. And you are assuming it is a random intruder but it's possible she knew her attacker.

Her attacker was Patsy Ramsey...the mother.

She wiped the batteries and flashlight.

 

[Solace]

Her attacker was Patsy Ramsey...the mother.

She wiped the batteries and flashlight.

I agree.

 

[azwriter]

JonBenet's intestines were likely about 15 feet in length and consisted of around 10 feet of small intestine (beginning at the stomach) and 5 feet of large intestine (ending at the rectum).

The pineapple was at the beginning of the small intestine. It would have taken about 1 1/2 to 2 hours for the digestive system to have advanced the pineapple from the stomach to that point in the small intestine. There was nothing in the stomach. Therefore, the pineapple was absolutely the last thing that JonBenet ate.

Both JonBenet and Burke loved seafood, so it's unreasonable to think that she didn't eat cracked crab at the White's. What was likely the cracked crab dinner was in the large intestine and would have taken about 5 or 6 hours for the digestive system to advance it to that point. JonBenet ate the cracked crab at about 7 P.M. at the White's.

Thus, it appears JonBenet ate the pineapple around 11:30 P.M. on the 25th and probably died about 1:00 or 1:30 A.M. on the 26th. This timeline is supported by the full rigor the body was in when found at 1:05 P.M. on the 26th. (Bodies are in full rigor about 12 hours after death.)

JMO

Blue Crab, this post makes so much sense when it comes to the scientific evidence from the autopsy. There's no getting around it - JonBenet ate pineapple before she died. There is evidence of it in her small intestine according to the autopsy. Its appearance in her digestive system gives a stong hint of the timeline. Glad to see you posting here.

 

[PrintGal]

I have followed this case from the day it was first reported on CNN, at which time I turned to my husband and said, "Bet the parents did it." Everything that I have heard or read subsequently has only confirmed that. The note alone clinches it for me. Everything else is just gravy. Sadly LE was not all working together and the politics got in the way of building the case. What I can't and never will be able to understand are those people that truly believe that kooky DA's announcement that the touch DNA absolved the Ramseys. Are the majority of people so gullible that they believe what they are spoon-fed by the media? Don't they understand that 'can't necessarily prove' is not equal to 'disproves'? Must be why they can't believe Patsy wrote the note when all but one expert consulted thinks she did and the lone dissenter (paid by Ramseys) can't even conclusively rule her out. I admire people who want to give the benefit of the doubt and are trying assiduously to apply the "innocent until proven guilty" concept but some of their theories and dogged adherence to points of evidence already disproven floor me. Can they just not see that not all killers look like John Wayne Gacy? Some look like Susan Smith, or Casey Anthony, or Jeff McDonald or Darlie Routier.

For what it is worth, I believe it was an accident and Patsy tried to cover it up because she did not want to jeapordize their social position. I can't decide when she let John know what was going on- during the staging or after the police were called. Does anyone else agree and have a theory on when John was informed?

 

[DeeDee249]

Hello and welcome!
I pretty much agree with your idea of how it went down. Although as an RDI, I do sometimes theorize about how it could have happened if someone other than her mother did it.
Many posters have opinions about when JR was brought into the crime. You might try reading the "Members Theories" thread at the top if you haven't already.
I think that it was an accident, and after JBR collapsed after the head blow (and PR thought she'd killed her) she wasn't actually dead yet. We know this because the petechiae that developed on her neck, eyelids, and elsewhere (seen at autopsy) could not have happened after death. Petechia occur only while the victim is still alive, and is always seen in strangulation victims. That doesn't mean the strangulation is what killed her. The head blow alone would have done that, but the strangulation contributed to her death.
After the struggle that resulted in the head bash, PR called for JR- and though he must have been horrified, he helped cover up the accident. I don't think JBR ever regained consciousness or gave any signs of life, and I don't believe her parents thought she was still alive when they garroted her. I think the only reasons why JR would have helped his wife cover up the accidental death of their daughter were 1. that he had been molesting her and knew that would be discovered at autopsy, and 2. with PR having struggled with a fatal type of cancer, he couldn't bear to see her publicly tried, or put through the public spectacle, even if no charges were filed, ESPECIALLY as PR was seen as the ultimate stage mother, and overly involved in her daughter's life (and not always in an appropriate way). Lastly, I think that he considered BR, who would probably lose his mother to cancer (and he did) and didn't want to put his son though the stress of seeing his mother held responsible for the death of his sister.
There is also the consideration that BOTH parents covered up because BR had been the one molesting his sister (a dictionary in the master bedroom was open and a page corner was turned down at the word "incest").
That is not to suggest that BR killed his sister, but if the parents were aware of sexual activity between the siblings (not intercourse, but the type of sex play that will sometimes occur with siblings) then that would be a reason for them to want to cover up the accident. Making it look like a kidnapping/murder sets the stage for the molestation to be blamed on the kidnappers and diverts attention away from the real molester.

 

[BBB167893]

Welcome.

We all want killers to look like monsters. And we're always shocked when they look like regular people.

 

[newhere56]

they were absolutely involved.

 

[RiverRat]

And some posters complain that the Ramseys were only looked at....

Well then.....who do those posters think that law enforcement were investigating and interiewing all during those four months after the murder while John and Patsy were refusing to be interrogated?! :waitasec:

 

[RiverRat]

they were absolutely involved.

Absolutely! :Welcome-12-june:

 

[ShesElectric]

Hi,


I am 17 years old, and have been interested in the JonBenet' Ramsey
case for awhile now. Forensics has always been an interest of mine.

I believe the Ramsey's to be innocent of the murder of their daughter,
and these are some of my reasons:


- If John Ramsey had participated in the murder, and the
following coverup, why would he unstage the crime scene to the
extent of removing the duct tape on her mouth, and loosen the
wrist ligature before anyone else got to see it?
Not to mention bringing the girl's body upstairs, and disorganizing
the scene he and Patsy had spent hours creating?

- If John or Patsy knew about their daughter's body in the
wine cellar, wouldn't they be eager to just get the ordeal over with, rather
than let it drag on until 1:00 PM on Dec.26th?
You'd think one of them would have said, " I thought I heard a noise
downstairs!" or" Has anyone checked the basement?"


- If the parents had staged the scene, why wouldnt they have
thought of one of the most obvious and mandatory things:
Make it look like someone had broken in and left again?


- If Patsy wrote the note HERSELF, then she knew where the paper
came from, that it would be used as evidence, she must have known it would help tie her to the crime.
And she leaves the legal pad that the note originated from out in
plain sight? With the draft of the ransom note as well?


- The condition of JonBenet's body, to me, suggests the work of someone who didn't cover the body in the sheet out of a caring gesture,
but rather,...convienience.
It was draped haphazardly, with the feet and arms sticking out.


- In the ransom note the author writes, " Any deviation of my
instructions, will resuly in the emmediate execution of your daughter.
You will also be denied her remains for proper burial."

Now, I find it doubtful that a mother would refer to her daughter's
death as an "execution", or talk about witholding the remains for proper
burial.
This would most likely be too painful for the mother to countenance,
at this stage.


- Patsy has always stuck to her story that she never gave JonBenet
pinneapple after the party at the Whites'.
If Patsy had said she did, would that have implicated her in the
killing?
It's more likely that JonBenet' got up and had some herself,
or was fed some by the intruder.


- While the broken paintbrush, and legal pad and pen used to
write the ransom note were found, why not the source of the duct tape?
Or the full roll of cord used?
This suggests, to me anyway, they originated outside of the home.

- A suitcase was proped up against the back wall of the wine cellar where JonBenet's body was found.
The suitcase was placed directly below the broken basement
window, suggesting that someone needed something to step on in
order to exit.




These are just some of my reasons. I have also taken
handwriting analysis courses at my high school,...and found out
some interesting things about the note writer.

If anyone's interested, I can post my ransom note
analysis.


Connor

 

[DeeDee249]

Hi,


I am 17 years old, and have been interested in the JonBenet' Ramsey
case for awhile now. Forensics has always been an interest of mine.

I believe the Ramsey's to be innocent of the murder of their daughter,
and these are some of my reasons:


- If John Ramsey had participated in the murder, and the
following coverup, why would he unstage the crime scene to the
extent of removing the duct tape on her mouth, and loosen the
wrist ligature before anyone else got to see it?
Not to mention bringing the girl's body upstairs, and disorganizing
the scene he and Patsy had spent hours creating?

- If John or Patsy knew about their daughter's body in the
wine cellar, wouldn't they be eager to just get the ordeal over with, rather
than let it drag on until 1:00 PM on Dec.26th?
You'd think one of them would have said, " I thought I heard a noise
downstairs!" or" Has anyone checked the basement?"


- If the parents had staged the scene, why wouldnt they have
thought of one of the most obvious and mandatory things:
Make it look like someone had broken in and left again?


- If Patsy wrote the note HERSELF, then she knew where the paper
came from, that it would be used as evidence, she must have known it would help tie her to the crime.
And she leaves the legal pad that the note originated from out in
plain sight? With the draft of the ransom note as well?


- The condition of JonBenet's body, to me, suggests the work of someone who didn't cover the body in the sheet out of a caring gesture,
but rather,...convienience.
It was draped haphazardly, with the feet and arms sticking out.


- In the ransom note the author writes, " Any deviation of my
instructions, will resuly in the emmediate execution of your daughter.
You will also be denied her remains for proper burial."

Now, I find it doubtful that a mother would refer to her daughter's
death as an "execution", or talk about witholding the remains for proper
burial.
This would most likely be too painful for the mother to countenance,
at this stage.


- Patsy has always stuck to her story that she never gave JonBenet
pinneapple after the party at the Whites'.
If Patsy had said she did, would that have implicated her in the
killing?
It's more likely that JonBenet' got up and had some herself,
or was fed some by the intruder.


- While the broken paintbrush, and legal pad and pen used to
write the ransom note were found, why not the source of the duct tape?
Or the full roll of cord used?
This suggests, to me anyway, they originated outside of the home.

- A suitcase was proped up against the back wall of the wine cellar where JonBenet's body was found.
The suitcase was placed directly below the broken basement
window, suggesting that someone needed something to step on in
order to exit.




These are just some of my reasons. I have also taken
handwriting analysis courses at my high school,...and found out
some interesting things about the note writer.

If anyone's interested, I can post my ransom note
analysis.


Connor

You're young. So here goes.
First, we have only JR WORD that he pulled the tape off her mouth, and if you read the autopsy report (which I strongly suggest you do, including the photos) you will see that there is absolutely no forensic evidence to suggest that the cord had ever been tightly tied around her wrists. No marks, no swelling, nothing. If forensics is an interest of yours, google "livor mortis" and "rigor mortis" and you'll see why.
JR and PR contaminating the scene was a good way to provide an excuse for the fact that fibers linked to clothing they wore that night were found on the body, most notably fibers from a shirt JR wore were found inside her underwear, and fibers from a jacket PR wore were found on the INSIDE of the tape that was on JonBenet's mouth (indicating she was THERE when it was put on) and also tied into the knot of the garrote found around JBR's neck. BY handling the body, his defense lawyers had an excuse for the fibers being there. Police were unable to find the body. He HAD to bring her up at that point. Have you ever seen a dead body once it had been dead for more than 12 hours or so? It's pretty messy. There was no way the parents were going to have police leave and then be left with that to deal with. They HAD to "find" her.
A real pedophile/kidnapper/killer wouldn't have covered the body at all.
The suitcase was moved under the window. It wasn't there originally. There was no way a grown person could have balanced on that suitcase to push themselves UP the wall and out the basement window without the suitcase falling over. And then there is the matter of the chair that was found pushed against the door of the room with the suitcase. How did someone pull the chair against the door FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR? After it was closed? Please. There were plenty of other doors to exit, including one just steps from where the ransom note was placed. And let's not forget the unbroken spider web on the grate that would have needed to be moved for someone to climb out that window.
Look at the news. Mothers do terrible things to their children sometimes.
The ransom note was pure fiction. NO kidnapper writes a note like that and in the mother's handwriting, too.
NO one searched the parents when they left. No one searched PR's sister Pam when she removed items from the house, including a golf bag that was in the basement (in the middle of a Colorado winter- why was that golf bag so important that JR specifically requested it? Was golf the most important thing on his mind days after his daughter's death- was he planning to play golf in the ext few days? I think not) . Lets face it- the roll of tape and cord are small items. The parents could have taken them out in their coat pockets or PR's handbag.
All of what I have said has been said before here, by me and several others. We are all entitled to an opinion on this case, and there are many like you, who believe in the parents' innocence. But the reasons you have mentioned are simply not enough to exonerate the parents from involvement, IMHO.

 

[azwriter]

Sheselectric,
You have some very good points but you've come to place where this case has been hashed and re-hashed by some really great sleuthers. They bring up the most intelligent comments and ideas. Welcome.
About that pineapple. What you have to realize is that Patsy had to say she did not feed her daughter the pinepple. She and John gave the account that JonBenet arrived home "zonked out" or sound asleep. According to them, she was put immediately to bed. Patsy and John locked themselves into this story.
But, and here's the Ah-Ha moment, there was evidence of pineapple in JonBenet's digestive system. Enough for the investigators to pinpoint when it was eaten before she died.
So, the logical question is - when did she eat the pineapple, if JonBenet arrived home asleep and was put to bed.
If Patsy backtracked and admitted yes, she had given her daughter a snack of pineapple, that would show the parents lied about the events of the evening. That brings up a lot more questions about the parents. Why would they lie about their daughter being asleep and put to bed. Why was it important that they distance themselves from a lively, awake JonBenet?
Even John and Patsy said JonBenet would not have awaken and gone downstairs to get pineapple all by herself.
I hope this gives you a reason to stop and think about the Ramsey's account of what happened that night.
Keep posting.

 

[JMO8778]

..the pineapple was a big 'oops' moment for them,as was other evidence,like Burke and John on the 911 tape.
Steve Thomas said Mr White was the one who moved the suitcase,I think he said he was just moving it out of the way when he was looking around the basement.(sounds logical to me).So it was not there originally,and Thomas also said the pics were not time-stamped,so there is no proof for the R's defense that it was ever there before that time.That's just something the Ramsey spin team made up.
Also,realize that John claimed an intruder left via the window,which had a grate on it.But the grate was not out of place that morning,and JB is thought to have screamed (per a neighbor who heard it).So...consider that an intruder would have to bother to place the grate back into it's position,something someone who wanted to get out of there quickly would not do.An intruder would not have bothered to redress and cover JB,either.That is far too time-consuming,and only a parent would care about the way she was left lying there.
John also claimed an intruder wrote the note while they were gone,and left it on the stairs..so that would leave him to either skip a step and walk over the note while carrying JB down the stairs in the dark (not logical) or take the note upstairs with him,pick up JB,put her down at the bottom of the stairs,and then turn around to place the note there..again,not likely.And I've never read that the note was crinkled or wrinkled in any way,so as to indicate someone was carrying JB while also holding the note.
IMO,it was perfect for a reason...because it was put there by one of the parents,and neither went back upstairs once it was placed there.They didn't need to...showtime and the 911 call were about to begin...

 

[JMO8778]

Connor,welcome.Please do look a little harder at this case,(I really recommend Steve Thomas's book,he was one of the leading detectives on this case,and he left LE to be able to tell what happened),for starters:





- If the parents had staged the scene, why wouldnt they have
thought of one of the most obvious and mandatory things:
Make it look like someone had broken in and left again?

LE did check the basement;I suspect the R's were in shock when the body was not found.John didn't 'find' her himself,until 1pm,when given an excuse by LE to search the house.
..no need to stage a break-in...John stated immediately that it was an 'inside job',a convenient excuse if you ask me..and Patsy kept trying to incriminate the housekeeper,who had a key.(I don't think they wanted to be seen outside the house,either).But John did point out a window,which he said he'd broken earlier over the summer,to get into the house.Perhaps he thought that was enough.



- If Patsy wrote the note HERSELF, then she knew where the paper
came from, that it would be used as evidence, she must have known it would help tie her to the crime.
And she leaves the legal pad that the note originated from out in
plain sight? With the draft of the ransom note as well?

Patsy admitted to a friend that she herself wrote the draft..it doesn't get much more incriminating than that.
I believe John was guiding her that morning.I suspect he never thought they'd get away with it..therefore HE handed the notepad to LE.I believe he was throwing the evidence her way.He also allowed Patsy to wear the same exact outfit she had on the night before at the White's house (whom they called over,even though the note said not to contact anyone),as well as JB also had the same shirt on.Also,HE took a shower that morning...Patsy admittedly did not.(think about that one...).


- The condition of JonBenet's body, to me, suggests the work of someone who didn't cover the body in the sheet out of a caring gesture,
but rather,...convienience.
It was draped haphazardly, with the feet and arms sticking out.

On the interview w Smit,(posted on youtube),John said she was wrapped up,like a papoose..he even demonstrates this on the video.This is something only a parent would do.It demonstrates time,care and consideration with forethought were put into the way she was left to be found.
Her arms were left over her head,and not tucked in,because she had went into rigor by the time the 'restraints' were applied (which were said to be so loose they would not have restrained a baby;the autopsy report and photos support this).The restraints were applied as an afterthought,possibly to use up the rest of the cord.(btw,Patsy had a receipt that matched the same prices as the cord and duct tape at a local hardware store).Patsy was thought to have used the cord to make slings for her paintings,to transport them.Aunt Pam,Patsy's sister..was known to have removed a painting of Patsy's from the house,shortly after the murder.


- In the ransom note the author writes, " Any deviation of my
instructions, will resuly in the emmediate execution of your daughter.
You will also be denied her remains for proper burial."

Now, I find it doubtful that a mother would refer to her daughter's
death as an "execution", or talk about witholding the remains for proper
burial.
This would most likely be too painful for the mother to countenance,
at this stage.

not quite...that's exactly what Patsy wanted everyone to think.ppl will do almost anything when staging a murder to attempt to appear they didn't do it.and the more bizarre,the better.

- Patsy has always stuck to her story that she never gave JonBenet
pinneapple after the party at the Whites'.
If Patsy had said she did, would that have implicated her in the
killing?
It's more likely that JonBenet' got up and had some herself,
or was fed some by the intruder.

JB was 6 yrs old,had been up since early morning,and was admittedly,by Patsy,completely 'pooped' so to speak.It's doubtful she would have woken up to eat pineapple with anyone,much less a stranger.


- While the broken paintbrush, and legal pad and pen used to
write the ransom note were found, why not the source of the duct tape?
Or the full roll of cord used?
This suggests, to me anyway, they originated outside of the home.

..the duct tape appeared to have been used..some think it came from an American girl doll that JB had,of which a replacement was ordered (and paid for anonymously with a money order) shortly after the murder,and sent directly to John's office.hmm....

 

[JaneInOz]

- While the broken paintbrush, and legal pad and pen used to
write the ransom note were found, why not the source of the duct tape?
Or the full roll of cord used?
This suggests, to me anyway, they originated outside of the home.

..the duct tape appeared to have been used..some think it came from an American girl doll that JB had,of which a replacement was ordered (and paid for anonymously with a money order) shortly after the murder,and sent directly to John's office.hmm....

And if I might add, according to the website of the lady that is now deceased A Candy Rose http://www.acandyrose.com/ she believes that the cord came from the painting of PR's that the sister snuck out (in full view!)

And wow I didn't know she admitted to the draft to a friend ? are you kidding me ?
Why would she say that ?

 

[JMO8778]

And if I might add, according to the website of the lady that is now deceased A Candy Rose http://www.acandyrose.com/ she believes that the cord came from the painting of PR's that the sister snuck out (in full view!)

yes,good one!

And wow I didn't know she admitted to the draft to a friend ? are you kidding me ?
Why would she say that ?

not kidding,it's in Thomas' book.she said she was writing it for something else.

 

[BBB167893]

Hi,

Hi.

I am 17 years old, and have been interested in the JonBenet' Ramsey
case for awhile now. Forensics has always been an interest of mine.

I believe the Ramsey's to be innocent of the murder of their daughter,

I did, too, when I was 17.

and these are some of my reasons:

You certainly came to the right place to get answers to your questions. Ask anyone around here and they'll tell you: I'm yer man. I actually tackle some of these points in my book.

- If John Ramsey had participated in the murder, and the
following coverup, why would he unstage the crime scene to the
extent of removing the duct tape on her mouth, and loosen the
wrist ligature before anyone else got to see it?

That assumes that the tape hadn't already fallen off of her mouth and that the wrist ligature was tight to begin with. Given that no marks of any kind were found on JB's wrists, I say it wasn't. But quite frankly, the idea that anything was "unstaged" strikes me as odd. The fundamentals were still there, right where everyone could see them.

Not to mention bringing the girl's body upstairs, and disorganizing
the scene he and Patsy had spent hours creating?

- If John or Patsy knew about their daughter's body in the
wine cellar, wouldn't they be eager to just get the ordeal over with, rather
than let it drag on until 1:00 PM on Dec.26th?
You'd think one of them would have said, " I thought I heard a noise
downstairs!" or" Has anyone checked the basement?"

I'd prefer to answer both of those at once. When the scene was not originally discovered, they had to do something. And more importantly, there was no better time to do it. You've got a witness with you to say you did all of the things you'd expect someone to do (such as ripping off the duct tape when John "found" her), and an entire livingroom full of witnesses, including cops to say that you and your spouse contaminated the body, so any forensics would be explained (hopefully) right there.

Actually, as "Plan Bs" go, it wasn't that bad.

- If the parents had staged the scene, why wouldnt they have
thought of one of the most obvious and mandatory things:
Make it look like someone had broken in and left again?

Who says they didn't? That broken window was awfully convenient, wasn't it? But, more honestly, even if you don't buy that argument, like JMO says, initially, they tried to direct suspicion onto people who would not have needed to break in.
More honestly than that, I actually spent a while thinking that one over. One night, it came to me: because of the letter. Follow me on this: the whole point of the ransom letter was for it to be found, right? The whole point was for the note to be found first, before ANYTHING else was noticed as being amiss. And that's not just me saying that. The Ramseys and their mercs have been selling that one for years. Okay, so, since the note was supposed to be found first, nothing else could look out of place. The parents HAD to wake up and not think anything was wrong at first. They couldn't get up and say, "Time to wake up honey. God, it's cold in here. Did someone leave a window open?"

Sorry if that sounds complicated. It's actually quite simple, or at least it is to me.

- If Patsy wrote the note HERSELF, then she knew where the paper
came from, that it would be used as evidence, she must have known it would help tie her to the crime.

Like I said before, if you have someone in mind as a "patsy" (no pun intended), that's not a bad idea. Even if you don't agree with that, we're not talking criminal geniuses here.

And she leaves the legal pad that the note originated from out in
plain sight? With the draft of the ransom note as well?

Sure! The whole point, as I said, was to find the note.

- The condition of JonBenet's body, to me, suggests the work of someone who didn't cover the body in the sheet out of a caring gesture,
but rather,...convienience.
It was draped haphazardly, with the feet and arms sticking out.

The FBI agents who studied the case said it was a textbook example of a caring gesture. It's in PMPT and Thomas's book, if you want.

- In the ransom note the author writes, " Any deviation of my
instructions, will resuly in the emmediate execution of your daughter.
You will also be denied her remains for proper burial."

Now, I find it doubtful that a mother would refer to her daughter's
death as an "execution", or talk about witholding the remains for proper
burial.
This would most likely be too painful for the mother to countenance,
at this stage.

Who knows what's in a person's heart, Connor? Within every skull is a little world all its own. Not just that, but all these questions are asking us to believe that they were perfectly calm and logical at a time like this. I don't think they were. I think they were highly agitated and flying by the seat of their collective pants.

- Patsy has always stuck to her story that she never gave JonBenet
pinneapple after the party at the Whites'.
If Patsy had said she did, would that have implicated her in the
killing?

Depends on how you look at it, I guess. I'm of the mind that it would have made her look a lot BETTER if she had admitted that. Moreover, sticking to a story doesn't make it true. Ask OJ Simpson if you don't believe me.

It's more likely that JonBenet' got up and had some herself,
or was fed some by the intruder.

You try feeding some six-year-old you don't know and see how far it gets you! If I sound sarcastic, I'm not trying to be. I just know people.

- While the broken paintbrush, and legal pad and pen used to
write the ransom note were found, why not the source of the duct tape?
Or the full roll of cord used?
This suggests, to me anyway, they originated outside of the home.

It's been suggested that the tape came off of something else. Specifically, a doll that Pam Paugh most likely "disappeared" from the house later that week. As for the cord, who says there had to be a full roll? Maybe that was all that was left.

Not only that, but a credit card receipt belonging to Patsy Ramsey from McGuckin's hardware store

- A suitcase was proped up against the back wall of the wine cellar where JonBenet's body was found. The suitcase was placed directly below the broken basement
window, suggesting that someone needed something to step on in
order to exit.

It wasn't moved there until Fleet White got hold of it.

These are just some of my reasons.

Connor, I sympathize, I really do. But I've got ten years on you, all of it studying this case. I know my stuff.

I have also taken
handwriting analysis courses at my high school,...and found out
some interesting things about the note writer.

If anyone's interested, I can post my ransom note
analysis.


Connor

Only if you're willing to take some counter-analysis. I have a good friend named Cherokee who's good at that.

 

[Tadpole12]

'If anyone's interested, I can post my ransom note
analysis.


Connor'

Hi. Ya, That would be cool.

 

[ShesElectric]

'If anyone's interested, I can post my ransom note
analysis.


Connor'

Hi. Ya, That would be cool.





As I'm writing this, I'm working on it.
Should be ready soon,

Connor