Area Body Found in "Too Strange" Was it Searched?Part # 2

[Pink Panther]

Why are we discussing the location where Caylee was found as if it was strange??? I'm confused. From everything I've read, it was a most PROBABLE location that unfortunately, no one searched or was able to properly search for several months! "Close to home" is not unusual at all! It all fits KC to a T! (We just gave her much-to-much credit in the BRAINS department when we were searching/discussing on line before Caylee was found!)

MOO

 

[Just Jayla]

Why are we discussing the location where Caylee was found as if it was strange??? I'm confused. From everything I've read, it was a most PROBABLE location that unfortunately, no one searched or was able to properly search for several months! "Close to home" is not unusual at all! It all fits KC to a T! (We just gave her much-to-much credit in the BRAINS department when we were searching/discussing on line before Caylee was found!)

MOO

Touche!

 

[Balthazar]

Re: the photos released by MN 'proving' the area was still underwater in November... Where's the water in these pics? I'm just not seeing it.

And since the PI's video shows no water in the same month, how is this beneficial to equasearch? Isnt the only significant point that it WAS underwater when it was searched months before?

I have to agree with you on this. I don't see a drop of water anywhere in the released photos. Not only that, I don't see brown patches at the back fences of the yards adjoining the remains site which I would expect to see if the ground was saturated with water.

 

[okiedokietoo]

I have to agree with you on this. I don't see a drop of water anywhere in the released photos. Not only that, I don't see brown patches at the back fences of the yards adjoining the remains site which I would expect to see if the ground was saturated with water.

it is the long abstract triangle - if you were standing on the road looking towards the woods and where the remains were found, the triangle would be just to the right - well that's how I see it anyway

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I don't really care where Caylee was found, I'm just glad she was found. Poor baby girl. RIP little Caylee - we want justice for you sweet child.

If someone moved her from pt. A to pt. B that proves nothing about who killed her. It just means there are other people involved who need to be brought to justice too.

I'm still hung up on the 31 days thing. It always goes back to that for me. 31 days of not telling anyone about your missing baby. 31 days of partaaay, tatoos and movie going. 31 days of Tony, Tony, Tony and 31 days of evading your stupid family. 31 days of forgetting she ever had a daughter. I'm to the point that I don't care what the story is, she deserves to spend her life in jail for that offense alone - lost child, nevermind, let's go to Fusian!

And, last but not least, the dead body smell of the car. I don't care if they never find DNA. CA said, It smells like there's been a dead body in my daughter's car and we can't find our granddaughter. Now she says she was only kidding to alert the police that she needed them. The two of them should share the same 8x8 cell for the rest of their lives. They take the cake in writing fiction.

Sorry about the rant folks - feel a tad better now.

 

[essies]

I have to agree with you on this. I don't see a drop of water anywhere in the released photos. Not only that, I don't see brown patches at the back fences of the yards adjoining the remains site which I would expect to see if the ground was saturated with water.

Hopefully the new witness just added to the state's list will clear this up!!
snipped:
Meanwhile, prosecutors have added two names to the witness list.Sean
Henady, who took aerial photographs of the area where Caylee's remains
were later found,
I'm not sure if this is the same person - but if it is he may be able to explain alot!
http://mysite.verizon.net/res8pn1w/inhope2/id41.html

 

[Jolynna]

Kathy R., a forensic anthropologist for KC's defense, was on the Today show.

She was questioned about KC's case and said that she had promised to tell the truth whatever it was. When Ann Curry asked if the defense would find her testimony useful she responded that she would be testifying. She said that it was important for justice to punish the "right person for the right crime".

To me that says Kathy R. is going to dispute something alleged by the prosecution and that she might also be laying some foundation for a SODDI and if needed a fall-back "accidental death" defense.

JMO

 

[Marina2]

I have to agree with you on this. I don't see a drop of water anywhere in the released photos. Not only that, I don't see brown patches at the back fences of the yards adjoining the remains site which I would expect to see if the ground was saturated with water.

According to the letter MN sent to the SA's office and JB there are some sixty photos of this area showing the high water level. Apparently, it's the "dark patches" seen in the photos that depict water.

snipped from the letter:
"Two things are quite notable about these photographs. The first is that they depict water conditions as they existed while the search was conducted. The pictures establish that the water levels were high and that land was submerged. These aerials show that retention ponds were full and that there was standing water throughout the area. The dark patches throughout are water, which is consistent with Tim Miller's position, as well as that of many others, which has seemingly been challenged."

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20480499/detail.html

Testimony from topological experts regarding the elevation of the land in the remains area along with evidence that the retention ponds were full will support the assertion that the area was under water. The water had to go somewhere and that would be in the low-lying places such as where the body was found.

The 3D video of the remains site released in discovery focuses on the land elevation. There are areas of blue depicted as well, which probably represent where water would be. I think this will used as evidence the area was likely under water along with expert testimony.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I don't really care where Caylee was found, I'm just glad she was found. Poor baby girl. RIP little Caylee - we want justice for you sweet child.

If someone moved her from pt. A to pt. B that proves nothing about who killed her. It just means there are other people involved who need to be brought to justice too.

I'm still hung up on the 31 days thing. It always goes back to that for me. 31 days of not telling anyone about your missing baby. 31 days of partaaay, tatoos and movie going. 31 days of Tony, Tony, Tony and 31 days of evading your stupid family. 31 days of forgetting she ever had a daughter. I'm to the point that I don't care what the story is, she deserves to spend her life in jail for that offense alone - lost child, nevermind, let's go to Fusian!

And, last but not least, the dead body smell of the car. I don't care if they never find DNA. CA said, It smells like there's been a dead body in my daughter's car and we can't find our granddaughter. Now she says she was only kidding to alert the police that she needed them. The two of them should share the same 8x8 cell for the rest of their lives. They take the cake in writing fiction.

Sorry about the rant folks - feel a tad better now.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::blowkiss:

 

[wonders]

You know it's really a shame that Mr kronk did not have a camera with him at the times he called LE to tell what he saw. It's just another one of my wish this or that had happened thing. I know my wishes have no relivence at all.

 

[Unsolved]

I was watching the breaking local news (Orlando) on the day Caylee's remains were found, and I remember a TV reporter interviewing a young man who lived near the search. (In looking now at the aerial maps it might have been one of the closest backyards on Brackenwood)

This young man was standing in his backyard on one side of the fence watching the commotion, and the male reporter was on the roadway side, and they were discussing what might have been found down a little way across the street. This man specifically told the reporter that the area had been underwater and swampy, and the water had just been receding.

I have been trying to remember which station it was. I was flipping crazily between all the stations that morning - but I am usually watching news on WFTV (9) or CFNews13 (13).

I don't know if that would help LE in any way, but I do hope that LE will take another look at those TV tapes, find that report and re-interview that particular guy.

 

[CA Mom]

I was watching the breaking local news (Orlando) on the day Caylee's remains were found, and I remember a TV reporter interviewing a young man who lived near the search. (In looking now at the aerial maps it might have been one of the closest backyards on Brackenwood)

This young man was standing in his backyard on one side of the fence watching the commotion, and the male reporter was on the roadway side, and they were discussing what might have been found down a little way across the street. This man specifically told the reporter that the area had been underwater and swampy, and the water had just been receding.

I have been trying to remember which station it was. I was flipping crazily between all the stations that morning - but I am usually watching news on WFTV (9) or CFNews13 (13).

I don't know if that would help LE in any way, but I do hope that LE will take another look at those TV tapes, find that report and re-interview that particular guy.

I also remember this interview clearly but can't remember who was reporting.

 

[Marina2]

I was watching the breaking local news (Orlando) on the day Caylee's remains were found, and I remember a TV reporter interviewing a young man who lived near the search. (In looking now at the aerial maps it might have been one of the closest backyards on Brackenwood)

This young man was standing in his backyard on one side of the fence watching the commotion, and the male reporter was on the roadway side, and they were discussing what might have been found down a little way across the street. This man specifically told the reporter that the area had been underwater and swampy, and the water had just been receding.

I have been trying to remember which station it was. I was flipping crazily between all the stations that morning - but I am usually watching news on WFTV (9) or CFNews13 (13).

I don't know if that would help LE in any way, but I do hope that LE will take another look at those TV tapes, find that report and re-interview that particular guy.

I remember that boy's interview. He even stated that he could not have made it to where he stood to watch the events a short time before she was found because of the standing water that was there. He was expressing his gratitude that the water had receded enough to allow him the view he had of the scene.

ETA: I think he had gone into the woods a little ways beyond his back yard and was looking through the fence on the other side of the street.

 

[Muzikman]

I was watching the breaking local news (Orlando) on the day Caylee's remains were found, and I remember a TV reporter interviewing a young man who lived near the search. (In looking now at the aerial maps it might have been one of the closest backyards on Brackenwood)

This young man was standing in his backyard on one side of the fence watching the commotion, and the male reporter was on the roadway side, and they were discussing what might have been found down a little way across the street. This man specifically told the reporter that the area had been underwater and swampy, and the water had just been receding.

I have been trying to remember which station it was. I was flipping crazily between all the stations that morning - but I am usually watching news on WFTV (9) or CFNews13 (13).

I don't know if that would help LE in any way, but I do hope that LE will take another look at those TV tapes, find that report and re-interview that particular guy.

I saw 2 different male teenagers interviewed: One lived directly in front of the remains area (house on corner of Hopespring and Suburban) and the other across Suburban and down just a little bit.

Both would make GREAT prosecution witnesses as to the conditions of that particular little area where the remains were found. And neither would help the defense with their descriptions.

Notice Baez hasn't bothered to look them up... or if he did, he didn't like what he heard.

 

[essies]

Anthony's Defense Gets Access To Searcher Data
Defense Says Remains Were Placed In Woods While Anthony Jailed
http://www.wesh.com/news/20582620/detail.html

Casey Anthony's defense team will have access to the records of 32 searchers who looked within a couple hundred yards of where Caylee Anthony's remains were found.

So, Judge Strickland is only giving the defense what MN and TM were willing to turn over!! YES!!:woohoo:

 

[Theonly1]

Anthony's Defense Gets Access To Searcher Data
Defense Says Remains Were Placed In Woods While Anthony Jailed
http://www.wesh.com/news/20582620/detail.html

Casey Anthony's defense team will have access to the records of 32 searchers who looked within a couple hundred yards of where Caylee Anthony's remains were found.

So, Judge Strickland is only giving the defense what MN and TM were willing to turn over!! YES!!:woohoo:

Is there a link to this ruling? Because I don't trust the media's version of it and judging by Strickland's comments and facial expressions I assumed the defense was going to get more access.

 

[essies]

Tim Miller To Testify In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.wftv.com/news/20583028/detail.html

Judge's Order: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20582267/detail.html
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[essies]

Before the discovery, thousands of volunteers with Texas EquuSearch scoured various areas of the county for the missing girl in August 2008 and November. Casey Anthony's defense team requested information on all the volunteers. Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland ordered the information on 32 searchers -- who were within several hundred yards of where Caylee was found -- to be released to the defense and prosecutors.

Tim Miller, the EquuSearch's founder, has said the volunteers didn't search the specific area where the toddler's remains were discovered because it was underwater in August and November.

The defense team will have to pay for Miller to travel to Orlando to be questioned for the case. A date has not been set yet.

Strickland also said that prosecutors and Casey Anthony's attorneys may review other EquuSearch volunteers' information at the Orlando office of Miller's attorney, Mark NeJame.

If more searchers are indentified that were in the area, the issue can be brought to Strickland's attention and he will decide if the details should be disclosed.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...texas-equusearch-order-082709,0,5083861.story

 

[Theonly1]

Summarized from Orlando Sentinel:

1. Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland ordered the information on 32 searchers -- who were within several hundred yards of where Caylee was found -- to be released to the defense and prosecutors.

2. The defense team will have to pay for Miller to travel to Orlando to be questioned for the case. A date has not been set yet.

3. Strickland also said that prosecutors and Casey Anthony's attorneys may review other EquuSearch volunteers' information at the Orlando office of Miller's attorney, Mark NeJame.

4. If more searchers are indentified that were in the area, the issue can be brought to Strickland's attention and he will decide if the details should be disclosed.

There you go. The defense pretty much got what they wanted (except for the Tim Miller expenses, I'm assuming).

 

[essies]

I think the defense only got what TM and MN offered to them. JB and crew wanted more than what they got IMO!!
1. Attorney for Tim Miller and TES has agreed to present Tim as a rep of TES for deposition in Orlando. "court does not address the issue as to whether Timothy Miller need to be deemed a material witness and said issue is rendered moot;"

2. Expenses related to the depostion are to be paid by Casey prior to the deposition.

3. 32 searchers referenced by attorney for TES at the 8/21 hearing are to be disclosed to the State and Defense.

4. All documents related to other searchers working with or under TES are not to be disclosed. Defense and prosecution can review all other documents relating to the searchers at Nejames law office. If additional searchers are found, they may be presented to the court for in camera review. No notes, photographs or copies shall be taken of other searchers documents and no disclosure regarding other searchers shall be disclosed by the defense unless approved by this Court.

5. Casey shall bear all costs necessary to allow her counsel to review all referenced documents and expenses will be paid in advance.

6. Counsel for Tim and TES is entitled to be monitor the inspection at all times. "To further safeguard the requirements of this Order and will provide a representative at a minimal and reasonable expense; said expense to be paid by the defense." A dispute over reasonable costs will be resolved by the Court prior to inspection.