GUILTY Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead #2 (guilty plea, father found dead 5 November 2025 before sentencing)

  • #961
Yeah, I bet there are a long series of pets that went 'missing'. It's easier to explain away a pet going missing than a toddler dying. And you don't have to change the litter box if the cat mysteriously vanishes.

I'm not implying he killed them with his bare hands, but deliberately leaving a door open or driving them somewhere and dumping, yeah.

MOO
I was getting really disgusted, so I skimmed thru a part where he was always looking for a kid, dogs, and then appeared particularly upset about a costly kitten.
 
  • #962
The irony of ES being worried about the car being stolen with the kids in it, but cheerfully allowing this utter buffoon to "care" for them, is killing me over here. The poor children might have been better off with the carjacker, at the rate their parents are going! MOO
 
  • #963
The irony of ES being worried about the car being stolen with the kids in it, but cheerfully allowing this utter buffoon to "care" for them, is killing me over here. The poor children might have been better off with the carjacker, at the rate their parents are going! MOO
She clearly cleaned up his behavior for the cops. But her own texts contradicted the whole story she told le. Re drinking and driving, etc. Leaving kids in car
 
  • #964
Oh my gosh, reading Erika's mothers interview with police is very eye opening. It starts on page 243 of the documents.
I agree. And there is so much more in this document. So many things that are just infuriating. Everything makes CS out to be so completely unlikeable and for good reasons. I read the entire report, almost 300 pages. And now even more than before, I am so glad CS is going to be removed from this family for what as well may be forever. The only question in my mind is how it will happen... either he'll return to court to be sentenced to probably 30 years, or he'll try to run, with the same eventual outcome inevitably, or he will take himself out before his sentencing date, a la Fotis Dulos, the coward's way out. As long as he's out.

All support to the family he will leave behind. I'm sure it will be hard on them no matter what, but they will be better off without him, imo.
 
  • #965
He's obviously surrounded himself with enablers his whole life.

It's going to be interesting to see how he adjusts to prison. He hasn't had pretrial jail to ease him in. I suspect he's going to throw tantrums.

MOO
This is exactly why I don't believe he'll show up for prison. I think his weak a*s will avoid it, one way or another. They should have taken him into custody immediately.
 
  • #966
She clearly cleaned up his behavior for the cops. But her own texts contradicted the whole story she told le. Re drinking and driving, etc. Leaving kids in car
Yes, she literally told the police that their life before Parker died was PERFECT.

A perfect facade of perfection maybe. A sh**show behind closed doors. And that was all on him. I think ES was really really trying. Working too hard. Trying to achieve this perfect life she fantasized. While CS was doing everything to run it into the ground. I hope ES gets therapy. The daughters too.
 
  • #967
that report was eye opening. We already knew a great deal about the patterns of CS parenting. But the neighbors, Cynthia and Juan. Those were the icing on the proverbial cake. CS would have done well to have taken the first plea offered.

I hope once CS is imprisoned, ES will have the time and distance to really examine her life with CS and realize that she and her surviving daughters are so much better off without him.
 
  • #968
There is more than one mention by neighbors in their police interviews (which, I believe, were all volunteered by the neighbors; they all called LE on their own to share what they felt was important info they knew about Chris, all of which was negative to Chris) about a possible affair with one particular neighbor woman (she is named in the doc.)

But to me, this sounded like rumor only. I personally got the feeling that it had not yet become an actual affair, but I suspected that it would have become one... a still-brewing affair, if you will.
 
  • #969
Yes, she literally told the police that their life before Parker died was PERFECT.

A perfect facade of perfection maybe. A sh**show behind closed doors. And that was all on him. I think ES was really really trying. Working too hard. Trying to achieve this perfect life she fantasized. While CS was doing everything to run it into the ground. I hope ES gets therapy. The daughters too.
Can you imagine how she felt having her dead 2 year old brought to the exact hospital where she worked? And the rocket news express thru the hospital when folks realized who had been in charge of the baby's safety.
 
  • #970
There is more than one mention by neighbors in their police interviews (which, I believe, were all volunteered by the neighbors; they all called LE on their own to share what they felt was important info they knew about Chris, all of which was negative to Chris) about a possible affair with one particular neighbor woman (she is named in the doc.)

But to me, this sounded like rumor only. I personally got the feeling that it had not yet become an actual affair, but I suspected that it would have become one... a still-brewing affair, if you will.
I'm pretty dang old but he'd not have been on my list in the olden days. He's disgusting playing games all day, literally.
 
  • #971
I suspect he didn't care about kids at all, but had them for two reasons. To pacify his spouse, and to bolster his manhood/ego. Other than that, they were just... objects. To be ignored or shut away when not fulfilling some need of his.

MOO

Objects, yes I see that.
But unfortunately, not PRECIOUS objects.

I haven’t read the report but I can surmise from comments here about the neighbors and some potential incipient affair.

Oh Erika, you’re pretty and educated and in a prestigious career. You could have done so much better. Why didn’t you?

(My cry into the void).

JMO
 
  • #972
Objects, yes I see that.
But unfortunately, not PRECIOUS objects.

I haven’t read the report but I can surmise from comments here about the neighbors and some potential incipient affair.

Oh Erika, you’re pretty and educated and in a prestigious career. You could have done so much better. Why didn’t you?

(My cry into the void).

JMO
Has it been said how they actually met? She was already working as a doctor then, or was she still in school? Seems like they would have run in different circles then. Maybe she met him while he was bartending?

And where did "scientist" come from? One daughter said he doesn't work now, but he used to be a bartender and a scientist, but had to retire to stay home and take care of her and her sister. (paraphrased) (And I can't believe this is the story he told his girls, while they still must have been very young! Feeding his pretentious, self-inflating false narrative to his little girls even, really?? His ego is outrageous.)

Maybe his college major was something sciency? Did he ever graduate college?
 
  • #973
Objects, yes I see that.
But unfortunately, not PRECIOUS objects.

I haven’t read the report but I can surmise from comments here about the neighbors and some potential incipient affair.

Oh Erika, you’re pretty and educated and in a prestigious career. You could have done so much better. Why didn’t you?

(My cry into the void).

JMO
It's the Pratchett line about evil being treating people as things. He treated people as things his whole adult life. And if he hadn't killed his child, he would have kept doing it until he died.

He's going to hate prison. Nobody in there is going to pay court, or pat his back, or make excuses for him, or go away when he wants them to. His days will be regimented, monotonous, and full of people with no patience for his immature outlook on life and social responsibility.

MOO
 
  • #974
Has it been said how they actually met? She was already working as a doctor then, or was she still in school? Seems like they would have run in different circles then. Maybe she met him while he was bartending?

And where did "scientist" come from? One daughter said he doesn't work now, but he used to be a bartender and a scientist, but had to retire to stay home and take care of her and her sister. (paraphrased) (And I can't believe this is the story he told his girls, while they still must have been very young! Feeding his pretentious, self-inflating false narrative to his little girls even, really?? His ego is outrageous.)

Maybe his college major was something sciency? Did he ever graduate college?
One of the earlier news reports says he "studied biochemistry,". And names the school. But no one sums their education as "studied" a subject if they got a degree. Imo.
 
  • #975
  • #976
Yes, she literally told the police that their life before Parker died was PERFECT.

A perfect facade of perfection maybe. A sh**show behind closed doors. And that was all on him. I think ES was really really trying. Working too hard. Trying to achieve this perfect life she fantasized. While CS was doing everything to run it into the ground. I hope ES gets therapy. The daughters too.

She was doing all the work for the superficially "perfect" life.

Yet, the massive lie about this perfection was lethal. It was not just a "he drinks a little" or "we spend too much money" or "he can't hold down a job", all things that CAN be corrected with work.

She was lying to herself, her family, her neighbors, and her colleagues about the horrendous risk CS was intentionally neglecting the children and apparently acting out against her by surreptitiously day-drinking and even hiding his daytime alcohol purchases or thefts, even while the little children were waiting inside the car.
 
  • #977
It's the Pratchett line about evil being treating people as things. He treated people as things his whole adult life. And if he hadn't killed his child, he would have kept doing it until he died.

He's going to hate prison. Nobody in there is going to pay court, or pat his back, or make excuses for him, or go away when he wants them to. His days will be regimented, monotonous, and full of people with no patience for his immature outlook on life and social responsibility.

MOO
"He's going to hate prison"

That's why I'm thinking he is going to make a run for it across the border. He hasn't got much to lose by running. He's going to prison whether he shows up or whether he runs across to Mexico. I just don't think he is going to end up being "honorable" about this all. The girls won't even know him in 20 years. He'll just be an old guy ex-con.

He'll get $$$ from her, I think. I don't yet feel like she is completely out of this.

But I might be wrong.
 
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  • #978
Has it been said how they actually met? She was already working as a doctor then, or was she still in school? Seems like they would have run in different circles then. Maybe she met him while he was bartending?

And where did "scientist" come from? One daughter said he doesn't work now, but he used to be a bartender and a scientist, but had to retire to stay home and take care of her and her sister. (paraphrased) (And I can't believe this is the story he told his girls, while they still must have been very young! Feeding his pretentious, self-inflating false narrative to his little girls even, really?? His ego is outrageous.)

Maybe his college major was something sciency? Did he ever graduate college?

I recall they met while she was in medical school, and he was in college or university. I do believe he has a degree and worked in some IT-associated field a bit.

My impression from reading about their early years together was that they thought they were real hipsters: the tattoos, some partying with alcohol and possibly mild drug use, a good income for the couple.
 
  • #979
She was doing all the work for the superficially "perfect" life.

Yet, the massive lie about this perfection was lethal. It was not just a "he drinks a little" or "we spend too much money" or "he can't hold down a job", all things that CAN be corrected with work.

She was lying to herself, her family, her neighbors, and her colleagues about the horrendous risk CS was intentionally neglecting the children and apparently acting out against her by surreptitiously day-drinking and even hiding his daytime alcohol purchases or thefts, even while the little children were waiting inside the car.
Yes, acting out against her. The manipulation is so obvious. You hate me!
 
  • #980
Yes, acting out against her. The manipulation is so obvious. You hate me!
A text from him to her when she was scolding him for his dangerous chosen behavior.
 

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