Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead #2

  • #341
Anesthesiologists are more and more likely to be contract workers.
Ahhh I didn’t think about that. Makes sense. Thank you! I wasn’t expecting to find her name since she said she would be taking a long LOA but I was surprised when I only found one. Sorry IDK why both names are posted!
Is there still a pre-trial motion scheduled for this month?
Yes there is: PreTrial Conference - Wed - 11/20/2024 - 9:00am - Court Room 580
This is in the: AZ Superior Court in Pima County - Judge Kimberly Ortiz
I don’t know if he has to physically be there or if he can attend via videoconference.
 
  • #342
That might also be why the hospital appeared to have only one anesthesiologist. They may only have one on staff, but use independent contractors.

(And that's why so many people have surprise bills after a procedure.)
 
  • #343
I hope CPS is involved with this family. The Dad is an obvious drunk, and definitely shouldn't be taking care of kids at all. And they are also potential witnesses in this case. In addition to dealing with the trauma of having their little sister die. I wonder if they are getting therapy. They probably need it, maybe they feel at fault in this situation.

CS is bad news. I hope he is going to AA. And his wife is attending Al-Anon as well.
 
  • #344
CS is bad news. I hope he is going to AA. And his wife is attending Al-Anon as well.
I do too, but those organizations only work if the person going there wants to be there, and wants it to work.
 
  • #345
Ahhh I didn’t think about that. Makes sense. Thank you! I wasn’t expecting to find her name since she said she would be taking a long LOA but I was surprised when I only found one. Sorry IDK why both names are posted!

Yes there is: PreTrial Conference - Wed - 11/20/2024 - 9:00am - Court Room 580
This is in the: AZ Superior Court in Pima County - Judge Kimberly Ortiz
I don’t know if he has to physically be there or if he can attend via videoconference.
Is the pre-trial conference still on for tomorrow?
 
  • #346
Is the pre-trial conference still on for tomorrow?
I don't see it on the calendar, and a search of the court site returns nothing.

Cancel that, I found an entry saying the case is sealed.
 
  • #347
  • #348
I will be livid if they give this manchild a sweet plea bargain. LIVID

Scholtes will be back in court on Jan. 27, 2025.
 
  • #349
Christopher Scholtes had his scheduled progress hearing this morning, regarding the hot car death of 2 year old Parker, on July 9th. Judge Kimberly Ortiz set a trial date of Sept 15, 2025, it is expected to last 10 days.

The news we’ve been worried about all along came when the prosecutor said they are in contact with the defense team, working out the final details of a plea deal that they will have to them shortly. Next hearing is January 27, 2025 at 1045.

Abstaining from beer appears to agree with Christopher. He somehow looked younger than his last appearance. He didn’t speak at the hearing, but he smiled at someone in the gallery when he left the courtroom.

I’ve got my fingers crossed that this plea deal is going to be less sweet than most. This is the team that changed his charge to 1st degree murder. Christopher’s history speaks for itself, he never considered his children’s safety to be his concern. Whether leaving his diabetic child in the car for hours with only 1 meal that day, driving while drinking with 2 children in the car or driving 138 mph with his 2 year old asleep in the car. Christopher had a lot of luck over the years. Sadly for Parker his his luck ran out on July 9, on a day with temperatures over 110* when he left her in his car so he could play games, look for clothes on line & check out a few minutes of 🤬🤬🤬🤬. Parker was so far from his thoughts that even making snacks for his other kids didn’t make him question what Parker was doing. Then when his wife returned from work and asked where’s Parker, he ran around the house looking for her before remembering he had left her in the car 3 hours ago. Then, while paramedics tried in vain to restart Parker’s heart Christopher was lying to LE about the length of time she had been in the car and that leaving her that day was one off, that this wasn’t his habit.

The prosecutor and the judge can’t over look what led up to this tragedy. At least I hope they can’t. Because as sweet as his 5 & 9 yr olds were telling LE it was just an accident, he is a good dad. No, it wasn’t an accident and he isn’t a good dad. They stand a much better chance growing up with dad in jail than they do with dad at home with them. We can only hope & pray that their mom comes around to seeing her part in all this and hoping she does better moving forward.
 
  • #350
Christopher Scholtes had his scheduled progress hearing this morning, regarding the hot car death of 2 year old Parker, on July 9th. Judge Kimberly Ortiz set a trial date of Sept 15, 2025, it is expected to last 10 days.

The news we’ve been worried about all along came when the prosecutor said they are in contact with the defense team, working out the final details of a plea deal that they will have to them shortly. Next hearing is January 27, 2025 at 1045.

Abstaining from beer appears to agree with Christopher. He somehow looked younger than his last appearance. He didn’t speak at the hearing, but he smiled at someone in the gallery when he left the courtroom.

I’ve got my fingers crossed that this plea deal is going to be less sweet than most. This is the team that changed his charge to 1st degree murder. Christopher’s history speaks for itself, he never considered his children’s safety to be his concern. Whether leaving his diabetic child in the car for hours with only 1 meal that day, driving while drinking with 2 children in the car or driving 138 mph with his 2 year old asleep in the car. Christopher had a lot of luck over the years. Sadly for Parker his his luck ran out on July 9, on a day with temperatures over 110* when he left her in his car so he could play games, look for clothes on line & check out a few minutes of *advertiser censored*. Parker was so far from his thoughts that even making snacks for his other kids didn’t make him question what Parker was doing. Then when his wife returned from work and asked where’s Parker, he ran around the house looking for her before remembering he had left her in the car 3 hours ago. Then, while paramedics tried in vain to restart Parker’s heart Christopher was lying to LE about the length of time she had been in the car and that leaving her that day was one off, that this wasn’t his habit.

The prosecutor and the judge can’t over look what led up to this tragedy. At least I hope they can’t. Because as sweet as his 5 & 9 yr olds were telling LE it was just an accident, he is a good dad. No, it wasn’t an accident and he isn’t a good dad. They stand a much better chance growing up with dad in jail than they do with dad at home with them. We can only hope & pray that their mom comes around to seeing her part in all this and hoping she does better moving forward.
Perfectly said, the powers that be should all have this laminated to carry around with them!
 
  • #351
I try to avoid these cases but came across the body cam (and narration) so wanted to share (sorry if it’s a repeat)

 
  • #352
I try to avoid these cases but came across the body cam (and narration) so wanted to share (sorry if it’s a repeat)
Thanks Beachlife, this was an excellent find. They did a great job on the body cam with narration; showing Chris the whole time he walked around the house doing “Woah is me!”. I still don’t see any emotion for poor Parker.

While it looks as if this won’t be going to trial, I hope they keep all of this in mind in his plea.
 
  • #353
Thanks Beachlife, this was an excellent find. They did a great job on the body cam with narration; showing Chris the whole time he walked around the house doing “Woah is me!”. I still don’t see any emotion for poor Parker.

While it looks as if this won’t be going to trial, I hope they keep all of this in mind in his plea.
I hope so too. I hope he does some significant time in prison. He did so many things so callously here and it wasn't the first time.
 
  • #354
I'm surprised with his background that the prosecutor would agree to a plea deal.
 
  • #355
I'm surprised with his background that the prosecutor would agree to a plea deal.
I know... but I feel it's looking like it will happen. They will claim addiction issues, blah, blah, blah and that he's changed and is remorseful.
 
  • #356
I know... but I feel it's looking like it will happen. They will claim addiction issues, blah, blah, blah and that he's changed and is remorseful.
MOO
 
  • #357
I'm surprised with his background that the prosecutor would agree to a plea deal.
I agree. Normally I feel sorry for parents who lose a kid this way and the guilt is punishment enough. I don't feel that sympathy in this case. He was incredibly negligent. After so many times, it becomes a choice, not an accident.
 
  • #358
I know... but I feel it's looking like it will happen. They will claim addiction issues, blah, blah, blah and that he's changed and is remorseful.

Studies of “forgotten baby syndrome” are underway.
It seems (and it is slightly mentioned in Wikipedia, too), that for the most parents it is less of a guilt and more own misfortune. Something about a specific brain wiring leading to relative weakness of prefrontal and frontal cortex. As of 2019, 43 percent of caregivers who unintentionally left children in hot cars did not face charges, and 11 percent were charged but not convicted. Is leaving a child to die in a hot car a memory lapse or a crime?
The reason is, it is a memory issue, and unless there is a strong concern that kids were intentionally left in a car, you can’t punish people for weak memory, although such parents’ access to kids should probably be restricted.

CS is sort of a mid-range case. He does rely on a car as a nanny, but I also wonder if he is, essentially, a born loser who managed to marry a much smarter, more independent woman, and the only way to prove his meaning in the world is by putting on a show of being a good father. In other words, is his just an alcoholic, or is it all - lying, drinking - meant to cover up hopeless weakness of his attic?

So, I have a feeling that he truly has brain wiring problem, but possibly a personality disorder, the punishment will be mid-range. He will not be jailed, but will have to jump through way more hoops than most of these parents. Of course, there will be a huge loss for both spouses because any community will be harsh on them.
 
  • #359
but I also wonder if he is, essentially, a born loser
I’m not wondering at all. Whether born that way or not, I am certain that CS is a loser.

jmo
 
  • #360
Studies of “forgotten baby syndrome” are underway.
It seems (and it is slightly mentioned in Wikipedia, too), that for the most parents it is less of a guilt and more own misfortune. Something about a specific brain wiring leading to relative weakness of prefrontal and frontal cortex. As of 2019, 43 percent of caregivers who unintentionally left children in hot cars did not face charges, and 11 percent were charged but not convicted. Is leaving a child to die in a hot car a memory lapse or a crime?
The reason is, it is a memory issue, and unless there is a strong concern that kids were intentionally left in a car, you can’t punish people for weak memory, although such parents’ access to kids should probably be restricted.

You know what definitely has a detrimental effect on the brain and can impair cognition and memory? Alcohol abuse.
 

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