Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead #2

  • #721

Well, looks like it will go to trial. CS declined a 2nd plea offer. I wonder what it was...

Interesting picture, CS cleans up quite well. Haircut, shave...wearing a suit. Looks like a completely different person.
Charlatan
 
  • #722
Trial possibly Oct 27 unless there is another delay granted or a third attempt at a plea deal.

Prosecution looks to be coming in hot.
 
  • #723
Judging by the responses here by WS members after reading that text, it only made her look worse, and I think the authorities will view it in the same way that it seems people here do. She may have thought sending him that text at that time would help her own case, but it didn't. It can and should be used as evidence against her. IMO

[bbm]

has she been charged with something?




Christopher Scholtes attorney, Marc Adair. He went to a law school in California, of course...a "non traditional law school". Not exactly someone I would choose to defend me in a murder trial.


And he had been in trouble with the Arizona bar....more than one time.


are they not taking this murder charge seriously? why would they hire this person?
 
  • #724
I’m sure the ruling on the inadmissibility of the two minute p o r n search helped him decide not to take the plea deal

https://people.com/dad-murder-hot-car-death-daughter-christopher-scholtes-🤬🤬🤬🤬-11830416
“The prosecution hoped to introduce evidence of Scholtes' alleged 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 search during his upcoming murder trial, but that request has been denied by Judge Kimberly Ortiz.
Judge Ortiz wrote in her order that "the State is precluded from any eliciting testimony in its case in chief regarding the Defendant looking for 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the PlayStation before [his daughter's] body is discovered."
Prosecutors were also told that any witnesses they call to testify during the trial are "precluded from mentioning Defendant’s two-minute search for 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the Playstation on July 9, 2024."”


A judge agreed the 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 claim would prejudice a jury, so prosecutors can not mention it, but they can mention several warnings Scholtes allegedly received about the dangers of leaving children in a car.
 
  • #725
Scholtes asked for the plea deal, not rejected it, correct? He rejected the first one, but presented the second to the prosecutor and the prosecutor said no is what I understand.

May he get what he deserves.
 
  • #726
  • #727
[bbm]

has she been charged with something?



are they not taking this murder charge seriously? why would they hire this person?
No, to my knowledge she has not been charged.
 
  • #728
I actually think it is ironic that the judge thinks the jury won't be prejudicial against a defendant that played video games while his child was trapped in a hot car, and died from hyperthermia.

Fine, take out the "P@rn" searches.

All CS had to do was bring in the child from the car, put her on the floor, and ignore her in the house. Probably like he usually does.

I am more interested in the toxicology reports, if CS was under the influence of drugs and or alcohol. He is a fool for going to a jury with this case INMO. Unless we are missing something here.
 
  • #729

However, the ruling on what would be fair to tell jurors says prosecutors can use testimony of previous incidents where Scholtes’ children were left unattended in a car, including incidents when law enforcement officers warned him of the danger

Christopher had been warned by the police not to leave his kids in the car and that will be included in his trial. It’s too bad this trial wasn’t held in July or August.

I’m trying to figure out how they can seat a jury for this one, I can’t imagine anyone not being appalled by the idea that he left his girls in the car on other occasions, let alone on the day he killed Parker.
 
  • #730
I actually think it is ironic that the judge thinks the jury won't be prejudicial against a defendant that played video games while his child was trapped in a hot car, and died from hyperthermia.

Fine, take out the "P@rn" searches.

All CS had to do was bring in the child from the car, put her on the floor, and ignore her in the house. Probably like he usually does.

I am more interested in the toxicology reports, if CS was under the influence of drugs and or alcohol. He is a fool for going to a jury with this case INMO. Unless we are missing something here.
That 2 minute p o r n search is nothing, wouldn’t matter in the least (20 minutes, yes) the stops at the stores for beer that he appeared to have consumed on the property while Parker sat in the car, the beers he left without paying for! The hours of playing video games in his nice, cool house while Parker wasn’t even a thought in his little brain!

Yes, Christopher is making a mistake taking this to trial. He messed up when he didn’t take the 10 to 25 that the state generously offered him.
 
  • #731
That 2 minute p o r n search is nothing, wouldn’t matter in the least (20 minutes, yes) the stops at the stores for beer that he appeared to have consumed on the property while Parker sat in the car, the beers he left without paying for! The hours of playing video games in his nice, cool house while Parker wasn’t even a thought in his little brain!

Yes, Christopher is making a mistake taking this to trial. He messed up when he didn’t take the 10 to 25 that the state generously offered him.

Maybe he is waiting until the very last minute. We have seen this with other trials that were a "Slam Dunk".

Two I remember, the defendant pled guilty morning of trial.

Jaime Komoroski. And I can't remember the other one right now. Waited for the last minute before trial started...
 
  • #732
Maybe he is waiting until the very last minute. We have seen this with other trials that were a "Slam Dunk".

Two I remember, the defendant pled guilty morning of trial.

Jaime Komoroski. And I can't remember the other one right now. Waited for the last minute before trial started...

Bryan K.?

Although it wasn't exactly the morning of the trial.
 
  • #733

However, the ruling on what would be fair to tell jurors says prosecutors can use testimony of previous incidents where Scholtes’ children were left unattended in a car, including incidents when law enforcement officers warned him of the danger

Christopher had been warned by the police not to leave his kids in the car and that will be included in his trial. It’s too bad this trial wasn’t held in July or August.

I’m trying to figure out how they can seat a jury for this one, I can’t imagine anyone not being appalled by the idea that he left his girls in the car on other occasions, let alone on the day he killed Parker.
Warned by law enforcement previously? First I've seen of this. I know there were many reports of such abuse but it was always denied by those who investigated?
 
  • #734
  • #735
Warned by law enforcement previously? First I've seen of this. I know there were many reports of such abuse but it was always denied by those who investigated?
The judge in the case against Christopher Scholtes says prosecutors can not tell jurors Scholtes was in his house watching 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 while his daughter was strapped into the family car without air conditioning, in the summer heat.

However the ruling on what would be fair to tell jurors says prosecutors can use testimony of previous incidents where Scholtes’ children were left unattended in a car, including incidents when law enforcement officers warned him of the danger.

 
  • #736


Police body-cam footage of CS being arrested and taken into custody. He is crying and creating a scene. Kudos to officers for being so kind to him.
 
  • #737
I actually think it is ironic that the judge thinks the jury won't be prejudicial against a defendant that played video games while his child was trapped in a hot car, and died from hyperthermia.

Fine, take out the "P@rn" searches.

All CS had to do was bring in the child from the car, put her on the floor, and ignore her in the house. Probably like he usually does.

I am more interested in the toxicology reports, if CS was under the influence of drugs and or alcohol. He is a fool for going to a jury with this case INMO. Unless we are missing something here.
Maybe it’s a good thing the judge removed the p -rn searches. Less chance for appeal (shades of Justin Harris). The relevant direct facts are damning enough to a sensible jury. If toxicology turned up drugs or alcohol, CS is done.

JMO
 
  • #738
The judge in the case against Christopher Scholtes says prosecutors can not tell jurors Scholtes was in his house watching 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 while his daughter was strapped into the family car without air conditioning, in the summer heat.

However the ruling on what would be fair to tell jurors says prosecutors can use testimony of previous incidents where Scholtes’ children were left unattended in a car, including incidents when law enforcement officers warned him of the danger.

Yes, there were apparently *many* previous incidents as evidenced by both his children and by the text documentation of his codependent mommy-wife. He clearly has zero capacity to learn and she well knew that unless she also has zero capacity to learn.

But there are no reports of law enforcement previously warning him.

The arrest scene where mommy-wife is soothing him as though he didnt willfully murder her child is ...just.... sickening. I wish we knew how she got to this place in her life. Her children will someday read ALL the detailed documentation themselves, including her own complicity, and I can't begin to imagine how they will react to her reckless disregard for their lives.

At least the judge ruled this killer is not to be left unsupervised with ANY child, including his own children. Im wondering how carefully his complicit partner vetted whoever she got to be present when she is not there. Are they any less homicidally incompetent than he? Does she even care?
 
  • #739
But there are no reports of law enforcement previously warning him.
There is this:

Long before he was charged, even a complete stranger was concerned about the father’s behavior.

In 2019, a wellness call was made by a woman outside a local pizza restaurant who noticed Scholtes’ young children alone inside the vehicle. A police report states the caller said she had been waiting outside the vehicle for 15 minutes before she phoned police.

Although the children didn’t look in distress, she said she was concerned. Scholtes eventually was allowed to leave with his girls.

 
  • #740
There is this:

Long before he was charged, even a complete stranger was concerned about the father’s behavior.

In 2019, a wellness call was made by a woman outside a local pizza restaurant who noticed Scholtes’ young children alone inside the vehicle. A police report states the caller said she had been waiting outside the vehicle for 15 minutes before she phoned police.

Although the children didn’t look in distress, she said she was concerned. Scholtes eventually was allowed to leave with his girls.

Ahhh... and there it is! Thank you.

And even after THAT, his accomplice STILL left her children alone with him, even drunk and driving 138 mph and after "how many times" she told him???

I cannot fathom, as a former child protective social worker, how she is not charged with child abuse and child neglect.

Will that come after he is locked in a cage for the rest of his natural life? She could have prevented this whole thing even though he clearly had no capacity to control himself due to addictions and, most likely, pathological narcissism and pathological infantalism (yeah, I just made that word up just this minute).

Can you tell I am beyond 🤬🤬🤬🤬?

ETA: and what was he doing inside a pizza restaurant for more than 15 minutes while he locked up these poor precious babies alone in his car? Having a few beers while he waited on his pizza to be cooked then drunk driving them home? 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬?
 
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