Regarding what I bolded---this has recently been debunked by research but I don't have the link handy. A recent study has found that Narcissists actually and truly believe they are superior. This counters the old theory that the Narcissist is suffering from low self esteem.
By the way, I believer firmly that JA is a BPD, Cluster B, Axis II with comorbidity.
Just my :twocents:
I am all for questions, as they facilitate debate. Even questions out of left field have been known to germinate answers in some direction. :rocker:
Regarding what I bolded---this has recently been debunked by research but I don't have the link handy. A recent study has found that Narcissists actually and truly believe they are superior. This counters the old theory that the Narcissist is suffering from low self esteem.
By the way, I believer firmly that JA is a BPD, Cluster B, Axis II with comorbidity.
Just my :twocents:
Here is something that hasn't been discussed. (or atleast as far as I have read) My theory. Who thinks, Jodi Arias was a prostitute? Who thinks Gus Searcy paid for her in the evenings at these PPL parties. I believe Juan Martinez was implying this during his testimony- asking what she wore- if they saw each other at night? He got her the phone- so he could reach her when he needed sex- or as payment? He seemed so Seedy! A Lech?
How did she get the money for those deposits in Pasadena? After she met with Gus Searcy...I think I know.
Thanks for helping me understand self-esteem. She appears to be very vain in many ways. Her need to be in makeup even when being booked, she clearly was comfortable in taking very candid photos. The early morning wake ups are most likely her having to get makeup and clothing perfect. I think she also loves the spot light and she has received tons of attention. I worry about murder cases when a person is recognized so much in media. Some people will murder just to bring attention to themselves.
Regarding what I bolded---this has recently been debunked by research but I don't have the link handy. A recent study has found that Narcissists actually and truly believe they are superior. This counters the old theory that the Narcissist is suffering from low self esteem.
By the way, I believer firmly that JA is a BPD, Cluster B, Axis II with comorbidity.
Just my :twocents:
Agree fully. I have a sister identical to yours.:furious:Please eveyone have a cup of coffee while u read this, in case it bores you! This case has really made me question some of own values..and I hope that this will prove to be a good thing. We have talked a lot about sociopath/pschopath, ASPD and Narcissists and having grown up in a family with a few of those,I can attest that Narcissts do not suffer from low self esteem. They clearly think they are superior. JA proved that during her sparing with JM. This woman is on trial fro her life and she would rather appear to "win" and out do him rather than tone it down. Narcissts want to win at all cost and their sense of self rightenous allows them to dismiss any wrong doing, any responsibility for thier actions. You will never here the words,"I'm sorry, I was wrong." It's always what the other person did. ANd they believe it. My sister, a family therapist, to the world was brillant, and sounded so rational. To her family, she was a nightmare. The average person could not win an argument becuase she sounded so normal. Very JA like. But when you look at the behavior and not the words...the true story is there.I think too that for young people dating in the world...my old age advice would be...forget the words...always look at the behavior.
Thanks for helping me understand self-esteem. She appears to be very vain in many ways. Her need to be in makeup even when being booked, she clearly was comfortable in taking very candid photos. The early morning wake ups are most likely her having to get makeup and clothing perfect. I think she also loves the spot light and she has received tons of attention. I worry about murder cases when a person is recognized so much in media. Some people will murder just to bring attention to themselves.
Please eveyone have a cup of coffee while u read this, in case it bores you! This case has really made me question some of own values..and I hope that this will prove to be a good thing. We have talked a lot about sociopath/pschopath, ASPD and Narcissists and having grown up in a family with a few of those,I can attest that Narcissts do not suffer from low self esteem. They clearly think they are superior. JA proved that during her sparing with JM. This woman is on trial fro her life and she would rather appear to "win" and out do him rather than tone it down. Narcissts want to win at all cost and their sense of self rightenous allows them to dismiss any wrong doing, any responsibility for thier actions. You will never here the words,"I'm sorry, I was wrong." It's always what the other person did. ANd they believe it. My sister, a family therapist, to the world was brillant, and sounded so rational. To her family, she was a nightmare. The average person could not win an argument becuase she sounded so normal. Very JA like. But when you look at the behavior and not the words...the true story is there.I think too that for young people dating in the world...my old age advice would be...forget the words...always look at the behavior.
For a long time I was sure she had low self-esteem, H.S. drop out, no real job skills except waitressing, promiscuous, string of failed relationships, etc. And then one of our WS posters gave us a link to an article showing the differences between ppl with low self-esteem and narcissists. Jodi fit nearly EVERY category of a NARCISSIST! I had to do an immediate about-face in my opinion of her. She definitely has no self-esteem problems. In fact, she thinks she is the sharpest knife in the block. Watch her hold her own with JM. Nothing fazes her.
Yes, she may be grandiose, and think she's a queen: But TRUE self-respect would have been moving on beyond Travis, getting her act together, learning from her mistakes, bettering herself.....Who would want to be in her shoes?SHE thinks she is superior and wonderful. but she is fooling herself. so how does that make her a person who values herself ? everything she did was against her own best interests. look where she is now.
Yes, she may be grandiose, and think she's a queen: But TRUE self-respect would have been moving on beyond Travis, getting her act together, learning from her mistakes, bettering herself.....Who would want to be in her shoes?
thanks for this...interesting. ok they THINK they are always right and they are superior. but that doesn't mean that they ARE. i can think i'm a brain surgeon or a movie star but that doesn't mean I actually am one of those does it? so narcissists are fooling themselves. that to me isn't indicative of high self esteem. it's being foolish. it's not acting in your own best interests.
a teenager can think they know it all and act like a smartand a jerk. we've all been there and we've all known teens who are like this at some point in time. acting smart and superior doesn't mean that you ARE that way.