Armchair Psych Profile and Treatment

[songline]

Sorry. Am out of bridges, at the moment. How about some property on the moon?

Not unless it has a beach...
But you are welcome to go there and wait for me.

 

[songline]

How can his parents sue her?

If I sent my child to a school like that.
I would expect the professionals to be professionals.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING.
It seems to me she saw plenty, said something, did nothing.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE.

 

[jjenny]

If I sent my child to a school like that.
I would expect the professionals to be professionals.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING.
It seems to me she saw plenty, said something, did nothing.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE.

24 year old is not a child. He is an adult by all legal standards. School can not report him to his parents without his permission. If he wants to drop out, there is nothing to stop him.

 

[shadowraiths]

Not unless it has a beach...
But you are welcome to go there and wait for me.

Darn. No beach, or water. The continental divide might be better. You know, in the Rockies, west of Denver. I hear it's beautiful this time of the year.

 

[songline]

It depends exactly what he said, and nothing has been confirmed.

If he did, indeed say "I am going to hurt someone" she should have called the cops. The fact that she did not makes me believe it was way more vague than that.

Not ONLY on what he said.

 

[songline]

Darn. No beach, or water. The continental divide might be better. You know, in the Rockies, west of Denver. I hear it's beautiful this time of the year.

Not my domain. Try again.

 

[Padua]

If I sent my child to a school like that.
I would expect the professionals to be professionals.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING.
It seems to me she saw plenty, said something, did nothing.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE.[/

A "child" is not a "child" anymore in their mid twenties. They are an adult unattached to a mothers apron.

 

[CARIIS]

Although psychiatrists have an ethical responsibility to offer confidential treatment, there are situations in which a doctor can, and legally must, breach the confidentiality and alert authorities to an imminent threat

 

[carson456]

If I sent my child to a school like that.
I would expect the professionals to be professionals.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING.
It seems to me she saw plenty, said something, did nothing.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE.

I also would like to know how his parents could possibly sue the school. He is an independent adult.

 

[songline]

If I sent my child to a school like that.
I would expect the professionals to be professionals.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING.
It seems to me she saw plenty, said something, did nothing.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE.[/

A "child" is not a "child" anymore in their mid twenties. They are an adult unattached to a mothers apron.

Mine is in her 40's to me she will 4 ever be my child.
To JH parents he will forever be their child.
If you have grown kids you'll get it.

Can you pick your nose next instead of silly stuff.

 

[jjenny]

Mine is in her 40's to me she will 4 ever be my child.
To JH parents he will forever be their child.
If you have grown kids you'll get it.

Can you pick your nose next instead of silly stuff.

To you it's a child. But to everyone else 24 year old is a legal adult.
Not a little baby somebody is going to follow around 24/7.

 

[songline]

I also would like to know how his parents could possibly sue the school. He is an independent adult.

obviously MI (impaired)

 

[jjenny]

obviously MI (impaired)

Says who? And regardless, unless declared incompetent (which he was not)-still a legal adult. Who can do what he wants.

 

[carson456]

If we are ever privileged to his information, I will be interested to know what psychiatric medications she may have prescribed him. And how people may say those medications contributed to his actions.

For example, you see all the warnings on tv commercials with antidepressants. How they may cause suicidal behaviors. The drug itself doesn't make someone suicidal. But the drug brings them enough out of their depressed, fatigued, can't-get-out-of-bed state and gives them the energy to actually commit the act of suicide.

I wonder if he was prescribed an antidepressant that gave him the drive to actually carry out this heinous attack. Just a thought.

 

[carson456]

obviously MI (impaired)

What would his potential mental insanity have to do with his parents?
They are not a unit.

 

[songline]

You can play semantics with words all day long.
You can walk around with Eyes Wide Shut all day long.
A lot we do not know, and the stench of this smells all the way here on the east coast, yap I dont trust the schools accountability.

JH is responsible for what he had done.
This could have been prevented by professionals.
Not only should JH parents sue, sue, sue, but every victims family should too.
This smells like chit to me, I feel very strongly that there is a HUGE chance that it could have been prevented.

Just a scenario – what if the school was afraid of him and sat on their hands.????

 

[songline]

What would his potential mental insanity have to do with his parents?
They are not a unit.

They lost a son just as all the victims lost family.
I think all the victims families should sue too.

What if this could have been prevented, medicated in time, or put in an MI hospital for a period?
I do not have a crystal ball. but sitting on your hands is no answer to anything.
As A parent I would sue. Criminal or Gross Negligence.

 

[jjenny]

They lost a son just as all the victims lost family.
I think all the victims families should sue too.

What if this could have been prevented, medicated in time, or put in an MI hospital for a period?
I do not have a crystal ball. but sitting on your hands is no answer to anything.
As A parent I would sue. Criminal or Gross Negligence.

How exactly did they lose him? He isn't dead. He is sitting in jail getting his three meals a day.
And you can sue anybody for anything. Doesn't mean you are going to get any $.

 

[carson456]

They lost a son just as all the victims lost family.
I think all the victims families should sue too.

What if this could have been prevented, medicated in time, or put in an MI hospital for a period?
I do not have a crystal ball. but sitting on your hands is no answer to anything.
As A parent I would sue. Criminal or Gross Negligence.

You don't know he wasn't medicated. We don't know when their contact ended. There could have been phone calls from her Really, we don't know anything. I think wanting to sue without all the facts (or any) is very unrealistic and just an emotional hail mary.

 

[shadowraiths]

If he met the qualifications for disability, and he was one of the disabled students in their program, and if there were some sort of arrangement between the parents and the school, then yes, I could see the parents suing the school. Unfortunately, at this point, we have no idea. Everything put forward at this point, is a shinning example of a guy who was excelling academically.

That said, the biggest problem with MI, is that those who struggle with it are stigmatized. So, you end up with not only the afflicted but their families hiding, in denial, that sort of thing. Bc, regardless of how accepting the public claims to be, they aren't.

To me, if we are going to make any headway whatsoever, things will have to change wrt how we not only clinically treat the mentally ill but socially treat them as well. Bc, as long as it carries with it, the cloud of stigmatism, people will do their damndest to hide it. And as long as they're hiding it, they're not getting helped. And sadly, imho, we'll continue having these tragedies, people will cry out in outrage, and slowly, over time, the mentally ill will be even more marginalized.