ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#23

[UnfoldingTruth]

What is confusing though is Footy Show was Thur night the 19th but QPS requested programming from 4PM WEDNESDAY April 18th - 4AM Thursday 19th. (Does not include the apparent timeframe of Allison's murder or the Footy Show).

So intriguing!

Thats why I wondered if there had been rescheduling due to something else being on that week. And if GBC threw in the footyshow as part of his story for that night. Then they could catch him out that in fact it was not on that week on the Thurs. (something he may not have been aware of if grabbing a alibi out of the air).. But I see you have said it is ALWAYS on Thurs.(?)

 

[Amee]

Depends which Footy Show. The AFL Footy show is on Wed nights sometimes due to Thursday night games. Some nights it has started at 8.30pm

 

[CaseClosed]

Also some mums just dont care to go. A few of the mums at my school would rather go out for coffee with friends, than attend one of their kids activities. Some parents even have their kids in so many activities, it appears that they do it, so they dont have to deal with their children.

Even mums are different.

Yes, there are all sorts of parents. But we can't forget that some mums are single parents, needing every cent they can get from their job, and may not be able to attend these events because of their work commitments. That doesn't make them bad or uncaring mums. IMO.

 

[Bayside]

Channel 9 journo (Alysha Gates) was standing in front of Keentoknow's lovely sunflower cross for the story tonight from Kholo bridge.

Oh nice, I missed the news thanks

 

[willough]

Yes, there are all sorts of parents. But we can't forget that some mums are single parents, needing every cent they can get from their job, and may not be able to attend these events because of their work commitments. That doesn't make them bad or uncaring mums. IMO.

In that case, I will repeat my post made : "Yep, those two things too......All mums are different....Some cant be proactive, some want to be, but arent, some are and some cant be bothered"

That would fall in the can't be pro-active basket......because they are working.

 

[CIB]

Thats why I wondered if there had been rescheduling due to something else being on that week. And if GBC threw in the footyshow as part of his story for that night. Then they could catch him out that in fact it was not on that week on the Thurs. (something he may not have been aware of if grabbing a alibi out of the air).. But I see you have said it is ALWAYS on Thurs.(?)

Yes my husband watches it religiously and assures me it has never been on any other night EVER, and was definitely on that particular Thurs night the 19th. I am just going by what he says as I don't pay too much attention to his TV viewing habits!

 

[J-Diggety]

Thats why I wondered if there had been rescheduling due to something else being on that week. And if GBC threw in the footyshow as part of his story for that night. Then they could catch him out that in fact it was not on that week on the Thurs. (something he may not have been aware of if grabbing a alibi out of the air).. But I see you have said it is ALWAYS on Thurs.(?)

The AFL and NRL footy shows seemed to have both aired on Thursday the 19th April.

The difference being that different states televise the shows at different times.

QLD gets NRL footy show, then News, then AFL footy show

VIC gets AFL, then News, Then NRL

Has the accused got his codes mixed up in saying the ABC was watching a certain code at the time?

 

[CIB]

Yes my husband watches it religiously and assures me it has never been on any other night EVER, and was definitely on that particular Thurs night the 19th. I am just going by what he says as I don't pay too much attention to his TV viewing habits!

Oh and I am talking about the NRL Footy Show that is usually 9:30pm Thursday night (often starts late though, I am told).

 

[True]

I find it hard to believe when football show started will hold any weight in evidence against him. There are too many excuses he can give. They might want the programming schedule for other reasons too. Please don't let the next 10 threads be on when the footy show started (yawn)

 

[angel1]

I find it hard to believe when football show started will hold any weight in evidence against him. There are too many excuses he can give. They might want the programming schedule for other reasons too. Please don't let the next 10 threads be on when the footy show started (yawn)

I agree i feel like yawning already lol. But all i'm going to say is the footy show is only on one channel. So it might be something else they want to know considering they want details from all the channels :banghead::banghead::banghead: lol

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

I find it hard to believe when football show started will hold any weight in evidence against him. There are too many excuses he can give. They might want the programming schedule for other reasons too. Please don't let the next 10 threads be on when the footy show started (yawn)

It was relevant in that we were trying to establish why the dates of the 18th 4pm- 4am the 19th programming was wanted. Not that we are likely to know why. But the question was asked(by me) whether the Footy show which was reported as being relevant in GBC's original story, was actually aired on the 18th that week for some reason and so it would not fit with his story. And as we don't knw what he said- he may have been adament about it and if it wasn't on well, then, something is not right. Obviously a few posters have verified it was indeed on on the 19th. So not likely my thought is right.

 

[marlywings]

It was relevant in that we were trying to establish why the dates of the 18th 4pm- 4am the 19th programming was wanted. Not that we are likely to know why. But the question was asked(by me) whether the Footy show which was reported as being relevant in GBC's original story, was actually aired on the 18th that week for some reason and so it would not fit with his story. And as we don't knw what he said- he may have been adament about it and if it wasn't on well, then, something is not right. Obviously a few posters have verified it was indeed on on the 19th. So not likely my thought is right.

A member posted this last night...

#746 Yesterday, 09:13 PM
LouH
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 7

Just found a Facebook site for The Footy Show night of the 19th. Many posters were angry that it started late- 1010pm. Looks to have finished at 1126pm

 

[CaseClosed]

In that case, I will repeat my post made : "Yep, those two things too......All mums are different....Some cant be proactive, some want to be, but arent, some are and some cant be bothered"

That would fall in the can't be pro-active basket......because they are working.

?? Willough, I was just making a comment about mums. I wasn't attacking your post.

 

[BreakingNews]

So if it's a complete blackout, then it would need to be a closed court? And all the people in the room sworn to secrecy? Otherwise stuff is sure to get out. Not via msm as they would get in trouble, but definitely on social media!

I'm a few pages behind, so apologies if this has already been said. I doubt the court will be closed. That's very rare.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

A member posted this last night...

#746 Yesterday, 09:13 PM
LouH
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 7

Just found a Facebook site for The Footy Show night of the 19th. Many posters were angry that it started late- 1010pm. Looks to have finished at 1126pm

hey marlywings..you are the link guru! Thanks.. Yep I remember someone saying they thought it started late now. Because the voice was on..

 

[KG1]

Wakesksate, I agree about seeing the "right person convicted" and that sometimes they do make mistakes in this area. It is probably inevitable over the course of many convictions that sometimes the innocent are pronounced guilty and also that the guilty get off.

However, I don't believe that someone would have been arrested if they were only a suspect. I believe that the police would only arrest and charge someone who they strongly believe, as a result of their investigations, was the perpetrator. I am obviously no expert and could be wrong in my understanding of the system though. In one of the media reports......and I don't know how to link.....they said that there have been a few occasions that they have planned to arrest him but they delayed the process to gather more evidence to just make double sure to try and avoid the possibility of charging an innocent man with murder (and to avoid the serious ramifications that has, not only to the man himself, but also to his dear children and the wider family).

Having said all of this, over the course of time new evidence could potentially emerge that demonstrated that someone was innocent or proved a different person to be the perpetrator which would obviously change things.

I was heartened to hear that the police where trying to make double sure before they made an arrest. The thought of an innocent man being charged with murdering his wife is quite distressing to me...especially for the sake of the children and the family as well. In saying this I am not assuming that an arrested man is definitely guilty......that is for the courts to determine....and as Hawkins said many threads ago...........no one is ever likely to know the whole TRUTH anyway except the actual perpetrator!

One question that I do have though is:

Early in the piece Mr Ainsworth said that GBC wasn't a person of interest anymore and then it changed to no comment. If that is the case why is the indication now that they have known for a long time who did it and were going to arrest him a few times but then delayed it? Did they initially not think that it was him? How long have they known for sure that it was him?

Obviously these thoughts are just my own opinions and questions as we wait for the workings of justice for Allison.

IMO only, I think GBC went from 'no longer being a person of interest' to ' a prime suspect' in the murder of ABC.

 

[willough]

?? Willough, I was just making a comment about mums. I wasn't attacking your post.

Sorry...I thought because you had quoted me....that you were telling me I shouldnt forget about the single mums....I did feel a little attacked...Sorry I misinterpreted. xx

 

[CIB]

I find it hard to believe when football show started will hold any weight in evidence against him. There are too many excuses he can give. They might want the programming schedule for other reasons too. Please don't let the next 10 threads be on when the footy show started (yawn)

Well the whole point/reason topic came about was that QPS have asked Channel 9 and other channels for their programming schedule from 4PM WEDNESDAY April 18th - 4AM Thursday 19th. Which therefore rules out EITHER Footy Show from having anything to do with what the QPS want info regarding, as both were on the Thursday night.

That was the point. Footy Show was on Thurs night. I want to know why QPS have asked for programming schedule from 4PM WEDNESDAY April 18th - 4AM Thursday 19th? I guess we won't know for a while.

 

[CaseClosed]

Well the whole point/reason topic came about was that QPS have asked Channel 9 and other channels for their programming schedule from 4PM WEDNESDAY April 18th - 4AM Thursday 19th. Which therefore rules out EITHER Footy Show from having anything to do with what the QPS want info regarding, as both were on the Thursday night.

That was the point. Footy Show was on Thurs night. I want to know why QPS have asked for programming schedule from 4PM WEDNESDAY April 18th - 4AM Thursday 19th? I guess we won't know for a while.

I guess we could confidently say ... because someone is lying about something!

 

[Mani]

I believe if the prosecution does not reveal all they have to the defence, they do get in trouble for it. The system is supposed to be fair. Hawkins would probably know.

It is a guiding principle of the Rule of Law; Point #3 that all people are entitled to a fair trial and the presumption of innocence

Section B also states

"Upon arrest and/or charge, a person should be fully and promptly informed of any offence which he or she is alleged to have committed and, at trial, an accused person should be afforded a meaningful opportunity to interrogate and challenge the information which is relied upon against him or her."

http://www.lawcouncil.asn.au/shadom...D679-AA9B-27F0-219A-40A47E586C70&siteName=lca