CANADA ARREST! Canada - Elnaz Hajtamiri, 37, Abducted following home invasion, Wasaga Beach, Ontario, 12 Jan 2022

  • #161
York police release photos of suspects in Hajtamiri assault investigation - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

This an old link and I only post it for the following quote from a family member "who did not want to be identified out of concern for his safety."

“What is it that a person disappears and we don’t know anything. Is she alive? Is she in the country? Is she out of the country?

BBM. This is not a usual reaction from family members in other missing person cases. Is this a fear that is baked into Iranians living abroad or does this family member have some specific reason for fearing that EH might have been transported out of the country?
 
  • #162
I listened in to twitter spaces when she first went missing it was directed to Iranian Canadians who were being asked to speak out. Family and friends didn't want to be identified in that talk either.
 
  • #163
There have been developments in this case, and LE has the ex-bf in custody. Where are the other suspects? Where is Elnaz?
I cannot imagine how hard this must be on her friends and family. So much time is passing.
 
  • #164
There have been developments in this case, and LE has the ex-bf in custody. Where are the other suspects? Where is Elnaz?
I cannot imagine how hard this must be on her friends and family. So much time is passing.
Just to clarify, the ex was arrested on charges related to the previous assault, and then released on bail back in January.
 
  • #165
there's a new podcast out - True North Crime - episode 44
 
  • #166
there's a new podcast out - True North Crime - episode 44
They did a great job with that podcast. They revealed some new details. After listening to it I think the most simple explanation is probably what happened. The ex boyfriend stalked her and hired thugs to kidnap her. I really hope she is okay.
 
  • #167
I listened to the podcast as well. I didn't hear much new information other than it helped paint a better picture of her family both in Iran and Canada. What I found odd was that there was no mention of her job at an import-export company in Richmond Hills that had previously been reported. JMO, but the amount of effort and resources applied in the December attack and the January abduction seems excessive for what I have seen in other harassment attacks by ex-boyfriends or ex-husbands. It sounds like the family has acquired a top notch investigative team. Hopefully they will get some answers soon.

My amateur opinion only!
 
  • #168
I listened to the podcast as well. I didn't hear much new information other than it helped paint a better picture of her family both in Iran and Canada. What I found odd was that there was no mention of her job at an import-export company in Richmond Hills that had previously been reported. JMO, but the amount of effort and resources applied in the December attack and the January abduction seems excessive for what I have seen in other harassment attacks by ex-boyfriends or ex-husbands. It sounds like the family has acquired a top notch investigative team. Hopefully they will get some answers soon.

My amateur opinion only!
Yea there were no major new details. Just some additional minor details about the two crimes. The family definitely helped paint a better picture of her situation. I can see your point about it being over the top for a jealous boyfriend. I agree, but sometimes you see some crazy stuff in the world of true crime. My first prediction is still the BF, then number 2 would be her involvement in import/export.
 
  • #169
yes I only listened because it felt new - sadly nothing really new and no news.
 
  • #170
Yea there were no major new details. Just some additional minor details about the two crimes. The family definitely helped paint a better picture of her situation. I can see your point about it being over the top for a jealous boyfriend. I agree, but sometimes you see some crazy stuff in the world of true crime. My first prediction is still the BF, then number 2 would be her involvement in import/export.

Of course the ex-boyfriend is the number 1 suspect. However, he has yet to be linked (at least publicly) to either the assault at the parking garage or the abduction at Wasaga Beach. He has only been charged with some sort of harassment (phone calls, stalking?) prior to those two events. It is interesting, however, that he was arrested in Wasaga Beach.

MOO
 
  • #171
Of course the ex-boyfriend is the number 1 suspect. However, he has yet to be linked (at least publicly) to either the assault at the parking garage or the abduction at Wasaga Beach. He has only been charged with some sort of harassment (phone calls, stalking?) prior to those two events. It is interesting, however, that he was arrested in Wasaga Beach.

MOO
Wondering if the ex owns a boat?
 
  • #172
Wondering too whether and if there is any video of the white car seen in the area a few days before the abduction...either on the street in Wasaga Beach, or on the way there. Could they enhance to get a better image of the "bearded man"? Can they determine if that car is connected to the ex bf,.. his own, a friend's, a rental? There are a million white cars though....but darn it, who was it that was hanging around according to residents on the street? Someone was checking out Elnaz's comings and goings.

Good question too, if this guy has a boat...or access to one.
 
  • #173
Of course the ex-boyfriend is the number 1 suspect. However, he has yet to be linked (at least publicly) to either the assault at the parking garage or the abduction at Wasaga Beach. He has only been charged with some sort of harassment (phone calls, stalking?) prior to those two events. It is interesting, however, that he was arrested in Wasaga Beach.

MOO
It just feels too much for me for it to be a stalker ex boyfriend
Especially when you consider that the plane crash company have recently been paying out compensation to families involved in the shooting down of the airplane PS752 over Ukraine , yet some will not even reveal their names for fear of regime retribution and have declined the offer of compensation, requesting the truth , not money . Some are even filing through solicitors under anonymity . ( how that works when its a relative involved in the plane crash , ergo I would have thought it obvious who the claimants are but there must be a way around it through solicitors so their identity ( the claimants on behalf of the victims) can be kept confidential. I may be totally wrong but the pieces , from my own personal perspective, don’t fit with the stalker angle . I could be wrong and would be the first to hold my hand up and admit it but my gut instinct is something other than the ex. Plus - as @Steve McQueen’s Earlier post on this page, the employment in her import/export company in Richmond Hills seems to be being either kept on the low burner or just not mentioned further which I find odd.
Throughout my years in LE, as a Detective, I have been involved in investigating some really nasty , torturous stalking crimes . I say torturous, not because of physical torture methods used on the person being stalked but more described as such because of the slow drip drip drip continuous behaviour displayed and enacted by the perpetrator and the period of time it usually is enacted over ( some are years !!!!) and the fact that often there will be an initial bombardment and then the victim subject of the stalking is lulled into a false sense of security because the perpetrator will go off radar for a while, making the victim believe that he/she is finally rid of them because the stalking appears to have ceased . Then all of a sudden , the stalker returns, engaging in behaviour that is a notch up in level, each time the cycle is perpetuated. Also, stalking is a very personal crime which the perpetrator takes great delight from and I’m not saying that it’s never happened like in this case whereby multiple offenders have been involved in the attack in December followed by her abduction in January but generally this type of crime is a singular perpetrator who undertakes the whole victimisation alone . In my personal experience and observations, such is the false reality that the perpetrator resides in, that generally they don’t want to and would not want to pass up the opportunity to act alone , as opposed to in a group or hiring others to carry out their stalking behaviour because they like to see up front and personal when they do act , the fear and anxiety and overwhelming sense from their victim , that total lack of control that they , the victim , has in this matter. It truly is a terrifying reality for victims of stalkers and it can continue on for years , often times without knowing exactly who is behind it or if the victim is aware who is behind it, the stalker plays a very clever, manipulative and Machiavellian game in his/her eyes whereby there is no actual evidence for LE to develop to support the victim in a prosecution and sometimes it goes as far as the victim believing that they themselves are developing severe mental health issues and question if they themselves are going mad and are dreaming up the stalker and the stalkers actions to the point where they question what is their actual reality versus their perceived reality. It’s so damaging to the psyche of a stalkers victim. Sorry to waffle but I just wanted to convey the experiences that I have had whilst working in LE and dealing with varying levels of stalking throughout my career.

I am very much in the camp of this being something to do with her ‘mother country’ not least because of others who have fallen foul of their dual nationality which is not recognised by the Iranian regime, because of cases like the British lady Nanazin Zaire Ratcliffe who has been held in Tehran’s Evin prison since 2016 ( believed to be a political pawn in an outstanding issue and dispute between GB and Iran , that as a British resident with dual Nationality which is not recognised by the Iranian regime, when visiting her birth country to spend time with her aged and ailing parents , she was snatched as she boarded the plane to return to the U.K. . Demands were then made of the U.K. to ‘trade ‘- offering the release of NZ Ratcliffe on the condition that the British government pay back the millions that they received in 1979 prior to the fall of the Shah, to build a substantial number of Chieftain tanks , but because the Iranian Govt was overthrown, the tanks were never built and not delivered to Iran , yet the money to facilitate the purchase was paid upfront and that too was kept by the British government so essentially they received millions of $ for nothing . The current Iranian government want these monies paid back with interest amounting to ( I may not get this figure accurate) millions of $ in the region of 400 million dollars plus. The British government refused to be involved in any such trade negotiations.
And lastly, another reason that I am in the camp of it being to do with her ‘mother country’ is because of a personal experience whereby a lady who i now know (who incidentally was involved in the export of traditional Iranian fabrics to the West) was partaking in a Christian Bible Study Class when this information was ruthlessly passed to the regimes secret Police and they stormed the location where it was happening and shot dead 12 of the Bible class attendees in public view after lining them up against the wall outside of the target premises. The lady who I now know, managed to run and escape ( unfortunately leaving behind her purse with identifying information and details inside which related to her and her company and family members and address etc ) . She was smuggled out of the country within a few short hours and was given a new identity upon seeking asylum in the West and has never been able to return since. Because of the identifying information left behind, the secret Police tortured her family including elderly parents and a short time later her father died in mysterious circumstances and she was unable to even see him or talk to him from the day she was smuggled out of the country. To this day, the regime have people searching for her but thankfully she is subject to high levels of personal security along side a whole new identity and back story and a different visual appearance. But the threat is always there for her and she can never truly relax 100%. Anyway, I sincerely hope and pray that this lady, EH, will be located soon, alive, and returned to her family- God willing. All these collectively are why I perceived that her abduction is to do with her mother country as opposed to her ex boyfriend. I would like to be proven wrong because I personally would take my chances that the ex boyfriend is a better scenario than the regime.
 
  • #174
It just feels too much for me for it to be a stalker ex boyfriend
Especially when you consider that the plane crash company have recently been paying out compensation to families involved in the shooting down of the airplane PS752 over Ukraine , yet some will not even reveal their names for fear of regime retribution and have declined the offer of compensation, requesting the truth , not money . Some are even filing through solicitors under anonymity . ( how that works when its a relative involved in the plane crash , ergo I would have thought it obvious who the claimants are but there must be a way around it through solicitors so their identity ( the claimants on behalf of the victims) can be kept confidential. I may be totally wrong but the pieces , from my own personal perspective, don’t fit with the stalker angle . I could be wrong and would be the first to hold my hand up and admit it but my gut instinct is something other than the ex. Plus - as @Steve McQueen’s Earlier post on this page, the employment in her import/export company in Richmond Hills seems to be being either kept on the low burner or just not mentioned further which I find odd.
Throughout my years in LE, as a Detective, I have been involved in investigating some really nasty , torturous stalking crimes . I say torturous, not because of physical torture methods used on the person being stalked but more described as such because of the slow drip drip drip continuous behaviour displayed and enacted by the perpetrator and the period of time it usually is enacted over ( some are years !!!!) and the fact that often there will be an initial bombardment and then the victim subject of the stalking is lulled into a false sense of security because the perpetrator will go off radar for a while, making the victim believe that he/she is finally rid of them because the stalking appears to have ceased . Then all of a sudden , the stalker returns, engaging in behaviour that is a notch up in level, each time the cycle is perpetuated. Also, stalking is a very personal crime which the perpetrator takes great delight from and I’m not saying that it’s never happened like in this case whereby multiple offenders have been involved in the attack in December followed by her abduction in January but generally this type of crime is a singular perpetrator who undertakes the whole victimisation alone . In my personal experience and observations, such is the false reality that the perpetrator resides in, that generally they don’t want to and would not want to pass up the opportunity to act alone , as opposed to in a group or hiring others to carry out their stalking behaviour because they like to see up front and personal when they do act , the fear and anxiety and overwhelming sense from their victim , that total lack of control that they , the victim , has in this matter. It truly is a terrifying reality for victims of stalkers and it can continue on for years , often times without knowing exactly who is behind it or if the victim is aware who is behind it, the stalker plays a very clever, manipulative and Machiavellian game in his/her eyes whereby there is no actual evidence for LE to develop to support the victim in a prosecution and sometimes it goes as far as the victim believing that they themselves are developing severe mental health issues and question if they themselves are going mad and are dreaming up the stalker and the stalkers actions to the point where they question what is their actual reality versus their perceived reality. It’s so damaging to the psyche of a stalkers victim. Sorry to waffle but I just wanted to convey the experiences that I have had whilst working in LE and dealing with varying levels of stalking throughout my career.

I am very much in the camp of this being something to do with her ‘mother country’ not least because of others who have fallen foul of their dual nationality which is not recognised by the Iranian regime, because of cases like the British lady Nanazin Zaire Ratcliffe who has been held in Tehran’s Evin prison since 2016 ( believed to be a political pawn in an outstanding issue and dispute between GB and Iran , that as a British resident with dual Nationality which is not recognised by the Iranian regime, when visiting her birth country to spend time with her aged and ailing parents , she was snatched as she boarded the plane to return to the U.K. . Demands were then made of the U.K. to ‘trade ‘- offering the release of NZ Ratcliffe on the condition that the British government pay back the millions that they received in 1979 prior to the fall of the Shah, to build a substantial number of Chieftain tanks , but because the Iranian Govt was overthrown, the tanks were never built and not delivered to Iran , yet the money to facilitate the purchase was paid upfront and that too was kept by the British government so essentially they received millions of $ for nothing . The current Iranian government want these monies paid back with interest amounting to ( I may not get this figure accurate) millions of $ in the region of 400 million dollars plus. The British government refused to be involved in any such trade negotiations.
And lastly, another reason that I am in the camp of it being to do with her ‘mother country’ is because of a personal experience whereby a lady who i now know (who incidentally was involved in the export of traditional Iranian fabrics to the West) was partaking in a Christian Bible Study Class when this information was ruthlessly passed to the regimes secret Police and they stormed the location where it was happening and shot dead 12 of the Bible class attendees in public view after lining them up against the wall outside of the target premises. The lady who I now know, managed to run and escape ( unfortunately leaving behind her purse with identifying information and details inside which related to her and her company and family members and address etc ) . She was smuggled out of the country within a few short hours and was given a new identity upon seeking asylum in the West and has never been able to return since. Because of the identifying information left behind, the secret Police tortured her family including elderly parents and a short time later her father died in mysterious circumstances and she was unable to even see him or talk to him from the day she was smuggled out of the country. To this day, the regime have people searching for her but thankfully she is subject to high levels of personal security along side a whole new identity and back story and a different visual appearance. But the threat is always there for her and she can never truly relax 100%. Anyway, I sincerely hope and pray that this lady, EH, will be located soon, alive, and returned to her family- God willing. All these collectively are why I perceived that her abduction is to do with her mother country as opposed to her ex boyfriend. I would like to be proven wrong because I personally would take my chances that the ex boyfriend is a better scenario than the regime.

Thank you for your insight as always.
 
  • #175
Feb 22 2022
Elnaz Hajtamiri's former boyfriend makes court appearance (iheartradio.ca)
''The former boyfriend of a woman abducted from Wasaga Beach last month appeared virtually in court Tuesday, charged with criminal harassment.

The lawyer representing Mohamad Lilo asked for disclosure from the court as he began defending the 34-year-old Montreal man.

Philippe Grenier confirmed to CTV News that police charged his client with criminal harassment.''

''CTV News has learned that Devin Bains, the lawyer representing the Hajtamiri family, is "actively involved in heading a concurrent investigation in cooperation with the OPP."

Bains has put together a team for the investigation, including forensic investigator Tom Klatt. Klatt was recently involved in the investigation into the deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman.''

''Lilo and his lawyer are scheduled to be back in court in April.

Police encourage anyone with information to Hajtamiri's whereabouts to contact the dedicated tip line at 1-833-728-3415 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.''
Elnaz Hajtamiri's former boyfriend makes court appearance | CTV News
mohamad-lilo-1-5778233-1644616984036.jpg
 
  • #176
Who is to say that the ex bf isn't involved in some nefarious manner with the Iranian regime. Could be that Elnaz discovered such and thus broke up with him last October.
Just a thought.

Then, I still have suspicions about the import/export business of which there has weirdly been no mention in the latest podcast. Having researched such businesses in the Richmond area earlier, and finding one that's owned by an Iranian who switched from being a government engineer to trading nuts and figs, still causes me to wonder.

Maybe all three threads are connected, even though that sounds rather out there ....who knows?
 
  • #177
Who is to say that the ex bf isn't involved in some nefarious manner with the Iranian regime. Could be that Elnaz discovered such and thus broke up with him last October.
Just a thought.

Then, I still have suspicions about the import/export business of which there has weirdly been no mention in the latest podcast. Having researched such businesses in the Richmond area earlier, and finding one that's owned by an Iranian who switched from being a government engineer to trading nuts and figs, still causes me to wonder.

Maybe all three threads are connected, even though that sounds rather out there ....who knows?

I have been trying to make aconnection between the ex-BF and the Iranian regime as well.
 
  • #178
I have been trying to make aconnection between the ex-BF and the Iranian regime as well.
Wondering if the I regime would use a ''romance scam'' to lure somebody somewhere, or to get information of some sort? speculation, imo.
 
  • #179
Wondering if the I regime would use a ''romance scam'' to lure somebody somewhere, or to get information of some sort? speculation, imo.

Seems like a possibility. Or she's the most unlucky woman in Canada, being harassed by her ex-BF and being targeted by the Iranian Regime.
 
  • #180
Noting these unrelated cases, fwiw..
Suspect in investment fraud scam may be targeting members of Iranian community: police | CP24.com
2019
''In May, police revived their investigation after a second victim came forward alleging that she had also lost money in an investment scam. Police allege that the suspect befriended the victim in late 2018 and early 2019 and convinced her to invest money with him. He also convinced her to send money to her family in Iran through him, police say.''
''In a press release issued Wednesday, police say that they believe the suspect “has been targeting members of the Iranian community” and may have additional victims.''

2019
Iraqis linked to Iran use money-laundering scam to beat US sanctions | Arab News
 
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