ARREST MADE - EX-HUSBAND OH - Spencer and Monique Tepe found shot to death at home 2 children unharmed, Columbus, 30 December 2025

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Who said the murder weapon was in his car?
The weapon had to have been in his car for it to make it back to Illinois from the murder location in Ohio. He probably took it out of the car once he arrived home though.

JMO
 
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Yes, statistically, after 24 their chance of being school shooters decreases. But they clearly attack the entity that makes them lose their face, and it was more than true for Eric. (Remember how everyone was surprised at the randomness of the shooting? EH and DK didn't target the jocks. They targeted the Columbine).

I am interested if MDM blamed Monique for failed future relationships, or he targeted Spencer because Spencer was, after all, from the medical world, or really the couple.

I also wonder if he kept a gun in his car because he wanted to kill someone else? And not in Ohio, given where he was apprehended?
I can't claim this as an original idea as I heard it from a youtube profiler, but the perp was adopted as a child, meaning he somehow was separated from his bio mom (we don't know the details of why or where). Whatever the case, it seems he is estranged from his adopted parents too.

In the murder of Monique, he orphaned her children and forcing them to be raised by adopted parents too. I am confident the girls will be surrounded by loving family, but it's also true they will never have the chance to be with their bio mom because of him. He took their mother, cut short Monique's role as loving mom, and inserted himself in their lives.

He was separated from his mother(s) and he did the same to them.

I'm not articulating this well but hope the idea comes across.

He's a cruel, cruel person - not just someone angry or jealous. His actions are beyond getting a blow to his head in football or not being medicated properly or whatever explanation will come up. He's deliberately cruel to parents and children.

jmopinion
 
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Here is a thought I want to test. We all talk about “grievance collectors” and “narcissistic rage” but we don’t have a good idea why. Claudio Valente’s video didn’t make it clear.

What if all such mass shooters have the urge to kill but choose "less people" and more “themed targets”?

Look at 3D theme targets. They come in different forms, “a deer”, “coastal”, but I also saw Karl Marx. Whoever you want to aim at.

So imagine that Valente chose “US academia” thematic target. (Probably because he blamed “academia” for the perceived “loss of face”.) Brown, of course, was known. We assumed that Nuno Loureiro was shot out of personal envy. But Nuno also represented MIT. MIT Valente knew poorly and would have had more problems navigating (as opposed to Brown.) A former schoolmate who was accessible but also, the head of a MIT lab was the face of MIT.

If MDM is “the alley walker” then the man seems to be aware of the objects around him. He is sure-footed and appears goal-driven. What was his theme target? Relationship? Or was it still more, “medical world”, "the dentist" (whoever he blamed for the loss of face. Could be personal or professional). This we can find out. Hopefully during the trial.

Take Kohberger who has been mentioned today. Some LE initially said that “the house could be a target”. I thought they meant "it was a party house", but maybe not?

Kohberger scared off women. But he spent his formative years in a house with a mom and two sisters. Did he internally blame growing up with women for “the loss of face”? He was extremely misogynistic in WSU and treated women badly. On video with his dad, he looks happy. So whether he targeted a certain woman (no connection has been shown to the Idaho four, has it?) or a “house with women” per se is unclear. If you remember, that autumn someone attacked a female car parked at a nearby house, and in an odd way. That house got better security.
Hi Charlot, picking up on your thoughts.. let me know if I’m following your thoughts.

Injustice collectors feel slighted by a category of people, fixate and blame their issues on those people, then seek revenge on a target from that category. Examples:
-BK had a grudge against women, and violently brought that to a specific target at the college house in Idaho.
-Valente had a grudge against academia, and took that revenge at Brown U and on the MIT professor.
-McKee had a grudge against a category yet to be determined. Could be failed relationships, and he took revenge on Monique. Or could be against the medical field, and he took revenge on Spencer for his success. Or against both of those - failed relationships and medical field success. Basically - success in areas where he had failed.

Does my take align with your thoughts?
 
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i think he was driven only by extreme jealousy and wanted revenge on Monique and the man that he perceived took her away from him. We don't know when M and S met and it could have been during the short marriage. He was clearly fixated on them and i think thought only about how to kill them not about what happens next.
I agree with the "extreme jealousy" part, but there is nothing to suggest that M & S's relationship overlapped with her marriage to MM. M & S met online, and she spoke in the wedding video of enduring "bad Bumble dates," so it stands to reason that she was single for a good while between her separation from MM in March 2016 and her marriage to ST in December 2020. MM might have thought of what he was doing as "revenge," but just to be clear: MT did nothing wrong here. And even if she HAD been unfaithful, which there is ZERO evidence of, that STILL is not actually grounds to murder someone in cold blood.
 
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Good grief. Prozac does not cause people to commit vicious, brutal murders. In fact, the medication gives a normal brain chemistry so people can feel and act in normal ways.

I am willing to entertain almost any possibility and theory, but there has to be a modicum of data and logic to it.
I didn’t interpret the post to say that Prozac caused Klebold’s actions. In fact, I read the opposite. That some people who commit violent acts will have preexisting mental health issues, take medication, and everyone later points to the medication as the cause, rather than point to the underlying illness.

JMO
 
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Someone on here mentioned that he could have been stalking and watching them enter their passcode with binoculars. I think that is the case. He entered their bedroom in the night. I don’t think protecting their passcode would have stopped him but def a good reminder about being aware of your surroundings.
SBMFF

I don't think he could have done that easily since I believe he entered through the back, not the front. He was seen on video in the alley behind their house.

Do those houses have keypads on their back doors as well? If so, it wouldn't be a good idea to use the same code. Even if they did use the same code, since he came in through the back, and if he has used binoculars to get the code from the front, I'd think his first thought would be to enter through the front, not try the back to see if they used the same code back there.

Lastly, do those backyards have gates? I couldn't see one from the images in the wedding video. If not, then he had to either climb over a 6' tall fence, or get in through the garage which I don't see happening.

There obviously isn't one with the neighbor on the corner as there's some sort of shed or something on that side. Lastly, if the gate is on the other side of the garage, there's no path to it, which I'd think they'd have done since they have dirt/grass there. Like how they did leading from the patio to the garage. There's a paved path there. That makes me think there isn't a gate in those fences. JMO

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I agree with the "extreme jealousy" part, but there is nothing to suggest that M & S's relationship overlapped with her marriage to MM. M & S met online, and she spoke in the wedding video of enduring "bad Bumble dates," so it stands to reason that she was single for a good while between her separation from MM in March 2016 and her marriage to ST in December 2020. MM might have thought of what he was doing as "revenge," but just to be clear: MT did nothing wrong here. And even if she HAD been unfaithful, which there is ZERO evidence of, that STILL is not actually grounds to murder someone in cold blood.
Of course MT did nothing wrong here...I just said we don't know when she met S and is it possible that MM knew Spencer from school etc. I am sure they will be looking at all of this. Bottom line none of it really matters he murdered two people.
 
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The weapon had to have been in his car for it to make it back to Illinois from the murder location in Ohio. He probably took it out of the car once he arrived home though.

JMO
There have been posts made that state the gun was found in his car on arrest. I don't recall this being said by any credible media or CPD.
 
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Hi Charlot, picking up on your thoughts.. let me know if I’m following your thoughts.

Injustice collectors feel slighted by a category of people, fixate and blame their issues on those people, then seek revenge on a target from that category. Examples:
-BK had a grudge against women, and violently brought that to a specific target at the college house in Idaho.
-Valente had a grudge against academia, and took that revenge at Brown U and on the MIT professor.
-McKee had a grudge against a category yet to be determined. Could be failed relationships, and he took revenge on Monique. Or could be against the medical field, and he took revenge on Spencer for his success. Or against both of those - failed relationships and medical field success. Basically - success in areas where he had failed.

Does my take align with your thoughts?
What if it was about “ unfairness”. Or “ perceived unfairness”
I dont know what happened in his early life, but some of his adulthood events appear to have a common theme.
Allegedly estranged from family?
He didnt get over his divorce, we think that b/c the Tepes were his target’
2 malpractice suits that he was included on but perceives that as unfair or maybe even a nuisance, because he wasn't the one that did the harm.
All those tickets , easier to-pay than to fight, but b/c of demerits. His license is suspended
He made it all the way through med school, had to be disciplined, responsible etc, no doubt has an ego but maybe he perceives all these events as injustice/ unfairness . Enough of that builds , and it can create rage. It’s all holding him back in his eyes.
Theres lots of studies on the psychology of fairness, it sounds minor but it isn't..
 
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There have been posts made that state the gun was found in his car on arrest. I don't recall this being said by any credible media or CPD.
I have not seen a post on this thread stating the gun (murder weapon) was found in his car on arrest. Can you link to the posts? I did see a couple of posts suggesting he may have kept a gun in his car, not necessarily the murder weapon. Since LE said they recovered multiple weapons, it’s possible he had a gun in his car.

JMO
 
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There have been posts made that state the gun was found in his car on arrest. I don't recall this being said by any credible media or CPD.

According to this article, it appears the gun was found in MM’s condo. No mention of the gun being found in his car.

[…]

Columbus Police tell ABC 6 multiple guns were obtained from McKee‘s Chicago condo, including the weapon used during the murders.

"Multiple weapons were taken from the property of McKee," she said during CPD's first news conference about the case, 16 days after Spencer and Monique Tepe were found shot to death in their Weinland Park home. "And there is a preliminary link ... to one of the weapons that ties it to the homicides."

[…]

 
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Listening to Brian Entin and the lawsuits coming out on the BK murders. So very many warnings and University did nothing. Most of the time in these cases the warnings are ignored. I think the same will be uncovered in the Tepe murders. Not blaming anyone but I think there is a real history of stocking here.
 
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Listening to Brian Entin and the lawsuits coming out on the BK murders. So very many warnings and University did nothing. Most of the time in these cases the warnings are ignored. I think the same will be uncovered in the Tepe murders. Not blaming anyone but I think there is a real history of stocking here.
There has to be more… who loses it 8 years after a divorce.
 
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Hi Charlot, picking up on your thoughts.. let me know if I’m following your thoughts.

Injustice collectors feel slighted by a category of people, fixate and blame their issues on those people, then seek revenge on a target from that category. Examples:
-BK had a grudge against women, and violently brought that to a specific target at the college house in Idaho.
-Valente had a grudge against academia, and took that revenge at Brown U and on the MIT professor.
-McKee had a grudge against a category yet to be determined. Could be failed relationships, and he took revenge on Monique. Or could be against the medical field, and he took revenge on Spencer for his success. Or against both of those - failed relationships and medical field success. Basically - success in areas where he had failed.

Does my take align with your thoughts?
McKee’s target may also be centered around women and abandonment.
I hv no idea the circumstances of the adoption. I suppose there is a chance he was fostered first - that scenario can be a tough one esp if u get shuffled around a bit.
So his ability to get close to people and trust may be very limited
He is a super high achiever it seems throughout his life.
Were his adoptive parents
his cheerleaders or critics. Critics in the sense that his achievements were great but what’s next. As in Never Enough.
Or maybe he never felt a connection to the parents or never felt loved.

He had all his trust of a lifetime put into Monique along with all his emotional baggage. He needed her to be his everything.
I cannot imagine how soul sucking that quickly became for her after he had the ring on her finger.
Her leaving him was prob the beginning of his unraveling and the worst possible wound of his life
Luckily he will be jailed the rest of his miserable life.
Just my speculation / opinion
 
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There has to be more… who loses it 8 years after a divorce.
Well, we just saw a guy wait over twenty years to murder a guy he hadn't had an interaction with since university (that we know of), so...

Injustice collectors work on a different timescale to the rest of us because they don't forget, so they don't forgive.

MOO
 
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Well, we just saw a guy wait over twenty years to murder a guy he hadn't had an interaction with since university (that we know of), so...

Injustice collectors work on a different timescale to the rest of us because they don't forget, so they don't forgive.

MOO
Forgiveness , such a huge piece but so difficult for many people. I talked to 2 mothers who lost their adult children, not even to murder but someone else played a part / had influence on them, when we talked about forgiveness they basically said no chance. Takes a lot of time and a lot of work. People say forgiveness is for you, try to explain that to a mother who lost a child.
This guy. ( MM) Just seems like a perfectionist, (call it ego) he doesnt bend,
So 8 years to us. Is like yesterday for him,
 
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Forgiveness , such a huge piece but so difficult for many people. I talked to 2 mothers who lost their adult children, not even to murder but someone else played a part / had influence on them, when we talked about forgiveness they basicslly said no chance. Takes a lot of time and a lot of work. People say forgiveness is for you, try to explain that to a mother who lost a child.
Oh I absolutely believe that you never have to forgive someone if you don't want to. There can be a lot of power in refusing to forgive someone who abused you or someone you love. That refusal to forgive can be very healing, very empowering.

But there's a big difference between choosing not to forgive and deciding that all your problems are someone else's fault and you're going to hurt them for this perceived injustice. The first is a personal choice that only affects you. The second is about revenging yourself on somebody who in all likelihood had far less to do with your circumstances than you did.

MOO
 

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