Art Harris article: Misty Cracks (changes story again)

[SmoothOperator]

I cannot speak for why they might not be saying what they might not be saying.

I can say this: From my perspective, Ron acts guilty of something. I do not know what it is, but I view Ron's behavior and inappropriate statements as important to the events that unfolded that fateful February night. Ron did not cooperate with LE in the investigation beyond the initial inquiries--there has to be a reason for that. Haleigh was his daughter and it boggles the mind that he quickly removed himself from helping LE find her or find out what happened to her.

Now, it is possible that Haleigh ingested a drug and Ron was told that it was his drug...and he might have no way to refute that. But regardless of what Misty/Tommy/Chelsea/NayNay/Fields/Werter/Shoemaker say or do not say, whether Ron was directly involved in Haleigh being harmed is up for debate still, and I see nothing wrong with anyone debating it. My hinky meter says Ron was heavily involved in derailing the investigation and, again...there has to be a reason for it.

Thank you for your reply with points that are very relevant.. I, too agree that RC's actions are not normal and many downright despicable, and I, of course agree that Ron's involvement can be debated until the cows come home[thats what WS is for]..

I just cannot fathom these two or anyone else taking the "fall" and leaving Ron UN-implicated out of fear of Ron..
[and thats even with knowing girls/women that have been entranced with [unusual]men such as Ron, it still does not add up]..jmo

 

[krkrjx]

Thank you for your reply with points that are very relevant.. I, too agree that RC's actions are not normal and many downright despicable, and I, of course agree that Ron's involvement can be debated until the cows come home[thats what WS is for]..

I just cannot fathom these two or anyone else taking the "fall" and leaving Ron UN-implicated out of fear of Ron..
[and thats even with knowing girls/women that have been entranced with [unusual]men such as Ron, it still does not add up]..jmo

In the end, I don't think they will...not willingly, anyway. Of course, if they tried to tell the truth and LE refused to listen, they could take the fall. Just not willingly.

And really...I think they could both be involved. But I want all the guilty brought to justice, not just one or two.

 

[Redbird]

would like to add a comment to the theory that TN and Grandma were involved. I have never been able to imagine that any of these people would throw Haleigh's poor little body in a river. I can't imagine any of them being that cold hearted. I think Tommy/Timmy came to the MH at Ron's instructions from work. I think TN and Grandma were involved. Even protecting Ron is not a strong enough reason for these two to protect Misty as much as they did. They were trying to save their own asses. I think either TN or Misty was there when she died. With Timmy and/or Tommy's help they carried her body to the dumpster and cleaned up the trailer. TN masterminded the story they were going to tell. Ron's family then retrieved Haleigh's body and probably lovingly buried her in a secret place.

As far as no longer having reason to fear Ron now, the whole Cummings family has a reputation in Putnam county as being people you really wouldn't want to mess with. Didn't one of Ron's close relatives make a statement in the beginning that they all stuck together? Didn't they close ranks around Geraldo and run him out of town?

 

[justus4all]

In the end, I don't think they will...not willingly, anyway. Of course, if they tried to tell the truth and LE refused to listen, they could take the fall. Just not willingly.

And really...I think they could both be involved. But I want all the guilty brought to justice, not just one or two.

Good point!!!

If I was Misty...and I had just changed my story...and "spilled" what I knew..and I wanted the LE to BELIEVE ME....I would say...HOOK ME UP..to a LD and you WILL see I am telling you the TRUTH...

And the same with Tommy...Have him take a LDT..and tell the truth..and PASS it....

Perhaps the LE HAVE said to them....O.K.....Take a LDT and prove what you are saying is true....and they have declined...so the LE ARE...refusing to listen to their statements and stories...

MOO...

 

[grandmaj]

If it was Tommy, who decided on the story that would be told to the world?

It wasn't Tommy sitting beside Misty on National TV giving her cues and correcting her when she couldn't remember her story. It wasn't Tommy saying it wasn't Misty's fault just because she was the last one to see Haleigh. It was Ron and GGMS and TN who sang Misty's praises as her being a great step mother to the kids and how well she cared for them. The best girl Ron ever had.

That wedding looked like a shot gun ceremony to me. Everyone was happy about the wedding but Ron. So someone besides Misty decided it was in everyone's best interests for them to be married. IMO

I don't know what she means but Tommy did it ask Tommy. I really wish Tommy would tell the truth. How many times is he going to let Misty throw him under the bus?

 

[txsvicki]

I'm hoping that Chelsea with finally clear Joe publicly. He can probably thank her for not getting all this pinned on him. Maybe if he's cleared he'll tell anything that he knows about that night. Someone needs to offer proof and evidence against who did this.

 

[SoSueMe]

The headless rat is going to be the Achilles’ heel in Ron's story IMO.

That little stunt is going to trip up any untrue story.

These people can do some of the dumbest things to make themselves look guilty as all get out. Wasn't the rat incident right after Tommy had called LE about the fight with Ron? That could have just been Ron calling Tommy a rat because he went to LE over that incident. It was stupid.

Then again, like a lot of us have thought for the last 19+ months, it could have been Ron's way of saying "don't rat."

I truly don't know what to think anymore. :banghead:

 

[dodie20]

would like to add a comment to the theory that TN and Grandma were involved. I have never been able to imagine that any of these people would throw Haleigh's poor little body in a river. I can't imagine any of them being that cold hearted. I think Tommy/Timmy came to the MH at Ron's instructions from work. I think TN and Grandma were involved. Even protecting Ron is not a strong enough reason for these two to protect Misty as much as they did. They were trying to save their own asses. I think either TN or Misty was there when she died. With Timmy and/or Tommy's help they carried her body to the dumpster and cleaned up the trailer. TN masterminded the story they were going to tell. Ron's family then retrieved Haleigh's body and probably lovingly buried her in a secret place.

As far as no longer having reason to fear Ron now, the whole Cummings family has a reputation in Putnam county as being people you really wouldn't want to mess with. Didn't one of Ron's close relatives make a statement in the beginning that they all stuck together? Didn't they close ranks around Geraldo and run him out of town?

There are some cold, evil people in this world, who would have no problem throwing Haleigh in the trash, to the gators, or burrying her. If you, (& I mean the collective you), can get down on these people's level, you'll realize that there's not much goodness there, & yes, they're capable of just about anything. MOO.

 

[SoSueMe]

Tommy also said that he didn't go to work that day because he didn't have any drugs to take. I'm thinking that Tommy was given the xanex so that he would calm down and to be able to take a lifeless little girl's body away for disposal. I don't think that Tommy can get that out of his head. It has eaten at him since Feb. 9th, 2009 and that is why he has gone downhill since then.

See, this is just it Lonetraveler. We've all seen Tommy's decline over the last year and half. If the events of February 9th affected him so badly, could he be someone who could possibly rape and kill a child? Is it within him to kill a child? We've seen what these type of people are like and it doesn't seem to bother them a bit. They just keep on going, doing it time and time again.

If we find out Tommy did harm Haleigh, I guess I won't be surprised, but what will surprise me is to find out he was this type of monster. I also want to add that I won't believe this story unless there is a full confession from Tommy. Misty or Chelsea's stories don't cut for me.

There is also Ron's odd behavior and holding back information. I don't get any of these people, I really don't.

 

[SoSueMe]

ITA, a teenager in love will do anything to protect their love. She is giving Tommy her approval to spill the truth. Ron and family have probably been telling her that Ron has an alibi (he was at werk) and that she would be the accused if she or her brother ever opened their mouths.

I'm thinking LE may have finally told Misty that Ron turned on her. To prove it to Misty, maybe they provided her with information Ron gave them that she thought he would never reveal. Maybe it convinced her to finally come clean. At least I hope so and I hope you're right about Misty giving Tommy approval to spill it all.

 

[justus4all]

See, this is just it Lonetraveler. We've all seen Tommy's decline over the last year and half. If the events of February 9th affected him so badly, could he be someone who could possibly rape and kill a child? Is it within him to kill a child? We've seen what these type of people are like and it doesn't seem to bother them a bit. They just keep on going, doing it time and time again.

If we find out Tommy did harm Haleigh, I guess I won't be surprised, but what will surprise me is to find out he was this type of monster. I also want to add that I won't believe this story unless there is a full confession from Tommy. Misty or Chelsea's stories don't cut for me.

There is also Ron's odd behavior and holding back information. I don't get any of these people, I really don't.

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I agree ....

MaY I also note....not only Ron's odd behavior.....but TN's odd behavior...

After the story changed and the players were pointing fingers at who did what with Haleigh's dead body......There is TN saying for folks to keep looking and searching for Haleigh...(not word for word..but almost like it.)...AFTER the LE have declared this case a Homicide...

She is covering for SOMEONE........Would she cover for Tommy??? if Tommy took Haleigh's life???......I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOO

 

[Emma Peel]

If it was Tommy, who decided on the story that would be told to the world?

It wasn't Tommy sitting beside Misty on National TV giving her cues and correcting her when she couldn't remember her story. It wasn't Tommy saying it wasn't Misty's fault just because she was the last one to see Haleigh. It was Ron and GGMS and TN who sang Misty's praises as her being a great step mother to the kids and how well she cared for them. The best girl Ron ever had.

That wedding looked like a shot gun ceremony to me. Everyone was happy about the wedding but Ron. So someone besides Misty decided it was in everyone's best interests for them to be married. IMO

I don't know what she means but Tommy did it ask Tommy. I really wish Tommy would tell the truth. How many times is he going to let Misty throw him under the bus?

Amen Grandmaj.

Maybe this is why some old-timers here aren't terribly impressed or convinced by "Tommy did it - go ask Tommy".

It's just difficult to accept that the Cummings felt the solution to Misty's memory problem was to throw up a protective bubble of wedded bliss around Misty & Ron, send them on national press junkets and paint them as "the distraught young couple of the year deserving of your time and donations". While that did NOTHING for Misty's memory), it did focus the microscope on Ron & Misty's inconsistencies, at which point, it wasn't fun anymore, and the once virtuous Misty became the key with no matching lock and her family became "very dysfunctional", as Ron found he required some privacy and a divorce from his famous young wife.

Was the Cummings' rush to cannonize Misty all about "appearances"? Your baby goes missing and all you can think about that the ignorant babysitter who had custody of the baby when it went missing makes you look like a pedophile so best deflect, and marry her quickly? Why so insecure?

Or...was the rush to cannonize Misty all about buying Misty's "silence"? Why so important to silence her?

Or...was the rush to cannonize Misty all about keeping your enemies close like a mobster? Why not share all of your thoughts along these lines with the investigators?

Whichever, it stinks. And it's a stench that's tough to get out of your head.

 

[krkrjx]

If Fields believes in Misty, he should have no problem with allowing her to take another LDT. The SA could offer Misty a great deal to tell the truth and the whole truth. None of this "go ask Tommy" stuff.

IF Misty is innocent of harming Haleigh, as Fields seems to believe, and IF the SA were to offer to agree to giving her Youthful Offender status on all her drug charges if she were to come clean and pass a LDT, I think Misty would go for it.

That is, IF Misty had no active hand in Haleigh's demise or disposal.

For the most part, I have not thought Misty guilty of harming Haleigh but, good grief, she is making herself look more guilty now. I can see Tommy (and even Timmy) coming to Misty's rescue that night if she did something to Haleigh because, IMO, if she killed Haleigh, it was not intentional. However, I really cannot see Misty continuing to cover for her brother(s) if she really is without fault.

Of course, none of the above explains the behaviors of RC and TN. Man, it's really hard to come up with a theory that explains everything that has gone down!

 

[Crosby87]

Here is a possible motive for Ron wanting to remove HaLeigh from her home……

Because Ron didn't "like" Crystal's family, whom he never met by the way, he attempted to end Crystal's relationship with her family when she cohabitated with him; so why would Ron be content to cooperate with the Judge's decision to allow his children to have home visits with Crystal every 2nd weekend after she left and returned to her family whom he despised? No doubt having to drop the children off every 2nd weekend interfered in Ron's personal life and Crystal wasn't paying child support. Crystal owed him $12,000 by February 2009, and because she wasn't working and had just had a child with another man, I doubt Ron ever expected she would be able to keep her commitment to pay him.

In a similar vein, neither was Ron "content" with Misty who took off after they had an argument since it jeopordized his ability to sustain an income and provide proper care to his children. Ron named Crystal as a suspect and Misty was named the primary suspect in HaLeigh’s disappearance since she was the last known person to see HaLeigh alive. With HaLeigh gone, Ron gets to exact revenge on both Misty and Crystal who chose to remain oblivious and insensitive to the effect their absence had on Ronald and the children. Ron and his children depended on both Crystal and Misty’s support and they both betrayed Ron and the children leaving them in a perilous situation.

It remains to be seen, but I sincerely hope if Ron took matters into his own hands, he arranged for someone to transport HaLeigh out of the district and hide her and he didn't go insane and commit murder. JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

I agree with you, but I don't. I think Ron was an abuser, who preyed on young girls, but because of her early life, she was hardened & could 'handle it'. So, although I don't see her as meek & full of fear, I do see her as a victim, but I doubt she labeled herself a victim, but that doesn't make what Ron did, 'ok'. It just means that he picked his victims wisely. She probably saw herself in love & associates love with violence. just part of the game. With that said, I don't think she has been covering for Ron, out of fear. That doesn't make sense, & actually, if she covered for him, IMO, it was because of their 'ride or die' mentality. The same with him, if he was covering for her. But, if she covered for Tommy, that's a whole different scenario, because she had her parents & his kids to consider. But, until the 'Joe did it' stories came out, I never saw what looked like her covering for him.

Hope Sykes appeared to be as infatuated with Ron as Misty and seemed willing to trust him to take care of everything. IMO, Ron is the one who told Hope to plea as she did, hey, it worked for Ron many, many times in the past. However, Hope was a bit shocked when it did not work for her. I believe that Ron has a diabolical power with influencing women and weak people in general. "Wicked Attraction" is one of my favorite shows of real cases involving mostly young women committing crimes with men who use them and influence them to show their love for them............KWIM?

 

[dodie20]

If Fields believes in Misty, he should have no problem with allowing her to take another LDT. The SA could offer Misty a great deal to tell the truth and the whole truth. None of this "go ask Tommy" stuff.

IF Misty is innocent of harming Haleigh, as Fields seems to believe, and IF the SA were to offer to agree to giving her Youthful Offender status on all her drug charges if she were to come clean and pass a LDT, I think Misty would go for it.

That is, IF Misty had no active hand in Haleigh's demise or disposal.

For the most part, I have not thought Misty guilty of harming Haleigh but, good grief, she is making herself look more guilty now. I can see Tommy (and even Timmy) coming to Misty's rescue that night if she did something to Haleigh because, IMO, if she killed Haleigh, it was not intentional. However, I really cannot see Misty continuing to cover for her brother(s) if she really is without fault.

Of course, none of the above explains the behaviors of RC and TN. Man, it's really hard to come up with a theory that explains everything that has gone down!

The 1 thing that I thought about TN & Ron from the beginning, that still holds true to me, is that they were royally pizzed that this happened on Ron's watch & not Crystal's. They took every opportunity they could find, to throw her under the bus, get their digs in, & flat out blame her. I guess old habits die hard, but I do believe that they were so accustomed to running her down, that 1 of their main priorities when this happened, was to keep Crystal from looking better than Ron. There was no way, IMO, were they gonna admit that Ron wasn't the perfect parent. So, mature adult like Misty was Little Miss Homemaker, beautician, homework helper, rolled into 1, she loved the kids like her own, they cried to be with her, & Haleigh wanted her to be their mom. & she was simply, the best gf Ron ever had. Ron was a great dad, (& all of those pics proved it), he had never beaten his kids, or laid a hand on a woman, he didn't do drugs, & he was just a regular guy trying to support his family. So, no matter what happened to Haleigh, it wasn't Ron's fault, or because of his lifestyle, or because of the choices he made. So, he stayed with Misty, defended her, & then he married her. & I think that animosity towards Crystal is the reason LE put a stop to the 2 families communicating. They knew it was derailing the investigation.

 

[SmoothOperator]

If Fields believes in Misty, he should have no problem with allowing her to take another LDT. The SA could offer Misty a great deal to tell the truth and the whole truth. None of this "go ask Tommy" stuff.

IF Misty is innocent of harming Haleigh, as Fields seems to believe, and IF the SA were to offer to agree to giving her Youthful Offender status on all her drug charges if she were to come clean and pass a LDT, I think Misty would go for it.

That is, IF Misty had no active hand in Haleigh's demise or disposal.

For the most part, I have not thought Misty guilty of harming Haleigh but, good grief, she is making herself look more guilty now. I can see Tommy (and even Timmy) coming to Misty's rescue that night if she did something to Haleigh because, IMO, if she killed Haleigh, it was not intentional. However, I really cannot see Misty continuing to cover for her brother(s) if she really is without fault.

Of course, none of the above explains the behaviors of RC and TN. Man, it's really hard to come up with a theory that explains everything that has gone down

Above BBM... Ain't that the truth?

 

[lonetraveler]

While reviewing the "bombshell" out today about Misty cracking I can't help but think about one of the rare jail audios we got to hear between a hoarse, voiced Teresa Neves with Ronald Cummings, asking "Do You Think She Will Talk?". I'll bet both of them right now are wondering if Misty indeed, did talk.

 

[lonetraveler]

If Fields believes in Misty, he should have no problem with allowing her to take another LDT. The SA could offer Misty a great deal to tell the truth and the whole truth. None of this "go ask Tommy" stuff.

IF Misty is innocent of harming Haleigh, as Fields seems to believe, and IF the SA were to offer to agree to giving her Youthful Offender status on all her drug charges if she were to come clean and pass a LDT, I think Misty would go for it.

That is, IF Misty had no active hand in Haleigh's demise or disposal.

For the most part, I have not thought Misty guilty of harming Haleigh but, good grief, she is making herself look more guilty now. I can see Tommy (and even Timmy) coming to Misty's rescue that night if she did something to Haleigh because, IMO, if she killed Haleigh, it was not intentional. However, I really cannot see Misty continuing to cover for her brother(s) if she really is without fault.

Of course, none of the above explains the behaviors of RC and TN. Man, it's really hard to come up with a theory that explains everything that has gone down[QUOTE/]

Above BBM... Ain't that the truth?

Does anyone know if Fields was present when Misty "cracked"?

 

[impatientredhead]

While reviewing the "bombshell" out today about Misty cracking I can't help but think about one of the rare jail audios we got to hear between a hoarse, voiced Teresa Neves with Ronald Cummings, asking "Do You Think She Will Talk?". I'll bet both of them right now are wondering if Misty indeed, did talk.

Cracking= revealing the truth with evidence supported by third party evaluation

Misty has merely, by report, told another version of what happened that night. However this time with even less detail and more redirection to a source of info.