Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

[Tadpole12]

psychic, Saint Anna's graveyard in Aruba:

Van den Broeke weet het zeker: 'Natalee Holloway ligt in graf 15 ...
http://internetbode.nl/halderberge/broeke-weet-zeker-natalee-holloway-ligt-graf-15-307060
24 oktober 2017

Van den Broeke is sure, 'Natalee Holloway is in grave 15'
https://translate.google.ca/transla...alee-holloway-ligt-graf-15-307060&prev=search
October 24, 2017

 

[Barb Wire]

psychic, Saint Anna's graveyard in Aruba:

Van den Broeke weet het zeker: 'Natalee Holloway ligt in graf 15 ...
http://internetbode.nl/halderberge/broeke-weet-zeker-natalee-holloway-ligt-graf-15-307060
24 oktober 2017

Van den Broeke is sure, 'Natalee Holloway is in grave 15'
https://translate.google.ca/transla...alee-holloway-ligt-graf-15-307060&prev=search
October 24, 2017

Van den Broeke is a friend of Joran, he said Natalee is in grave 15 of the st anna cemetry..

 

[Gnatcatcher]

GM just posted St Anna. Church a clue #15

 

[Tadpole12]

Oxygen is ever compromising
http://www.oxygen.com/blogs/bone-fr...tigation-could-belong-to-one-of-these-missing


Natalee Holloway Investigation Could Belong To One Of These Missing Persons
October 26, 2017


RG, ALB, GM, W'B'L

 

[Barb Wire]

Old news G should do some research before posting crap.
A is a know lair



Just to name a few
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She is a grave 15 of the st anna cemetry.
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Don't forget she was in a un marked grave
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van der Sloot had confessed to burying her body in a shallow sandy grave, before transferring it to a coffin with a body inside that was ready for burial.
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She was under the cement in VDS yard
in January 2008, Joran tells someone Natalee was dumped at sea. He later denies that ...
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Kelly set up an FBI sting, in which he wired $25,000. Van der Sloot then stated he buried Natalee’s body in the foundation of a specific house. Authorities quickly determined he was lying, but before the feds could nab him for extortion, though, van der Sloot escaped to Peru.
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Joran: "She's in the ocean
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Joran tells a reporter he sold Natalee to human traffickers for $10,000
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It gives a precise location in the Bubali area of Aruba where Joran says Natalee’s body was buried."


She was tossed in the water taken out on Koen's father's boat
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van der Sloot appears to explain that Holloway suffered a seizure while they were having sex. After failing to revive her, van der Sloot seems to say that he and a friend named Daury took Holloway’s body out to the middle of the ocean by boat and dumped her overboard.
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American TV aired an interview in November 2008 in which van der Sloot states forthrightly that he sold Natalee Holloway to sexual slave brokers who took her to Venezuela. He also claimed that he hired the Kalpoes to help him and that his father paid off two cops to keep quiet.


informant as saying van der Sloot had confessed to burying her body in a shallow sandy grave, before transferring it to a coffin with a body inside that was ready for burial.
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March 8, 2008 "I hope tomorrow we will have the final links into a final resolution about the pond.
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Friday, February 29, 2008
XVIII. Sonar Search Complete
Update: Mon 03-March 1345 hrs
With the sonar search completed, the RV Persistence sets sail heading to its home port in Louisiana. With mixed emotions, the search team returns home. When we arrived in Aruba in mid-December we were mentally prepared to return home either having found Natalee, or after having exhausted all possibilities in the quest to find her. It is difficult going home with many questions left unanswered and so many sonar targets remaining to be explored. Our comfort lies in knowledge that we have done the best job we could, that we can return to dive on the remaining targets when funded, and that answers may come in time. We feel that the search is not over but rather entering a new phase. we thought Natalee was in a crab cage.. Posted by Blonde ( Me)
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Press Release:
From The (Aruba) Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date: January 31, 2007


New evidence in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway-
The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba has intensified its investigation of the case of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information. This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared.
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The Public Prosecutor has lately received this information from the Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries. This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee’s disappearance.
Posted by Blonde ( Me) from SM
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January 08, 2008 12:10 am
Trying to find the truth about the disappearance of his daughter, Dave Holloway and his attorney must first wade through a sea of misinformation.


Monday was a prime example of what Holloway must put up with.


A man, who said he was calling from Nicaragua, contacted Holloway telling him he knew the whereabouts of his daughter, 18-year old Natalee Holloway, who has been missing since March 25, 2005 during a senior trip to Aruba. After talking with the man who would not give his name or phone number, Dave Holloway has all but written off the "source" as bogus.
Posted by Blonde ( Me) From SM

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Now, 12 years later, he's following what he believes to be the most credible lead to date: a detailed first-hand account from a man who claims to know the whereabouts of his daughter’s remains, and the hope of finally getting a conviction of Joran van der Sloot. In the new Oxygen crime series, Another false lead




Dave Holloway has now been around the block several times since his daughter became missing. He knows there are a large number of people who would like to gain some sort of financial windfall by providing false information. As tiresome as it gets to field these kinds of calls, Holloway knows he has to listen, if for just a minute.


"Some people mean well and are genuinely trying to help but others are out there to rip you off," he said. "It's just something we have to put up with right now."

 

[Barb Wire]

Oxygen just released another article it could be any of the four people missing in Aruba I can't get the link cuz I'm on my phone

 

[Barb Wire]

I think that if you went to the pet cemetery in Aruba, put your hand in the sand or the dirt, you're bound to come up with some human bones mixed with animal bones so that's exactly what I think happened just my opinion

 

[Casara11]

Good work, Blond!

 

[redheadedgal]

Oxygen just released another article it could be any of the four people missing in Aruba I can't get the link cuz I'm on my phone

http://www.oxygen.com/blogs/bone-fr...tigation-could-belong-to-one-of-these-missing

 

[Tadpole12]

Yes, ty BB.
What a wild goose chase.
Could never have imagined it.

 

[Tadpole12]

http://www.oxygen.com/blogs/bone-fr...tigation-could-belong-to-one-of-these-missing

October 26, 2017

"According to a CNN report in 2011, 10 people have disappeared while vacationing in the Caribbean in the previous 15 years. "

 

[Barb Wire]

YES this is what I was told also So as Natalee was laying there, they,
he goes on the computer and he's,
wants to find out, you know, how, if she's that drunk, can she die. what if ... she overdose.

But she was not dead, she was still alive,
She still had a pulse, at the time.
...Trying to get her medical attention would surely lead to an investigation. That's what Paulus told van der Sloot, his son.
And with GHB in her system and Joran being the last one she was seen with and his dna and his father's dna may be found on her,left them with one solution one solution and one solution only:
Make her disappear.

She was then smothered, she was still alive.
She was smothered. She was basically killed.
She was smothered by Paulus.
He went ahead and put his hand over her mouth, and nose.
At the point she could barely had a pulse, so then, so she never felt it coming.

Then they had to fold her body in half to fit her in a burlap.
The burlap sack was concealed within a blue tarp.
Then, they then hid her body in a location Aruba Desert,
just before dawn on May 30 2005.
That is where she remained until Spring 2010 when Joran had enlisted my help.
Do you think John was there I remember Beth saying when she got to the VDS home their were a lot of people there and maybe one american boy?

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This was just told to anyone watching G talk live
I have NO proof this is real it came from John through Joran to G so many things look off to me

Palus goes on the computer and he's,
wants to find out, you know, how, if she's that drunk, can she die. what if ... she overdose. this part is true

7:34-7:37 pm: Paulus vists several stock-related sites

7:37 pm: Paulus google image searches for "alcohol", "beer" and "drugs". Visits sites containing information on alcohol and drugs, the dangers of these for young people, and a lawyer's office. The sites are visited only briefly.
*************.net/index.php?topic=231.0

She was smothered by Paulus. I don't believe this IMO Joran killed her

 

[Mica]

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This was just told to anyone watching G talk live
I have NO proof this is real it came from John through Joran to G so many things look off to me

Palus goes on the computer and he's,
wants to find out, you know, how, if she's that drunk, can she die. what if ... she overdose. this part is true

7:34-7:37 pm: Paulus vists several stock-related sites

7:37 pm: Paulus google image searches for "alcohol", "beer" and "drugs". Visits sites containing information on alcohol and drugs, the dangers of these for young people, and a lawyer's office. The sites are visited only briefly.
*************.net/index.php?topic=231.0

She was smothered by Paulus. I don't believe this IMO Joran killed her

The Oxygen documentary was a scripted reality tv show. Kramer did some research on the case and then embellished his research with the tales and lies of John and Gabriel. There are some truths in the documentary among all the lies.

Gabriel has tried to distance himself from Kramer by telling his cult to block a certain person he claimed to be Kramer, who he called “a sex offender.” However, on more than one occasion during his live broadcasts Gabriel referred to Kramer (and Eliot) as his manager. He is falsely giving the appearance he wants nothing to do with Kramer, a sex offender. Yet the lawsuit filed by Kramer against the media companies proves there is a definite connection between Gabriel, John, and Kramer. Kramer was responsible for preparing their non-disclosure agreements and recorded conversations. Kramer acted as an intermediator between Gabriel and the parties when communication broke down. Kramer also negotiated financial terms to be paid to Gabriel and John. Gabriel is very much involved with Kramer despite what he tells his group.


Ed Kramer Lawsuit
https://flii.by/file/8h3lao30c2i/

 

[Barb Wire]

The Oxygen documentary was a scripted reality tv show. Kramer did some research on the case and then embellished his research with the tales and lies of John and Gabriel. There are some truths in the documentary among all the lies.

Gabriel has tried to distance himself from Kramer by telling his cult to block a certain person he claimed to be Kramer, who he called “a sex offender.” However, on more than one occasion during his live broadcasts Gabriel referred to Kramer (and Eliot) as his manager. He is falsely giving the appearance he wants nothing to do with Kramer, a sex offender. Yet the lawsuit filed by Kramer against the media companies proves there is a definite connection between Gabriel, John, and Kramer. Kramer was responsible for preparing their non-disclosure agreements and recorded conversations. Kramer acted as an intermediator between Gabriel and the parties when communication broke down. Kramer also negotiated financial terms to be paid to Gabriel and John. Gabriel is very much involved with Kramer despite what he tells his group.


Ed Kramer Lawsuit
https://flii.by/file/8h3lao30c2i/

It is what it is you can't change the facts Kramer (and Eliot) are the same person
Kramer (and Eliot) as his manager. He knew that IMO I head John say in a video call Kramer
He is falsely giving the appearance he wants nothing to do with Kramer, a sex offender.
http://www.mugshot-publication.com/Counties/Georgia/Gwinnett-County/Edward-Eliot-Kramer.951973.html

Too late for that we all know let his followers drink the kool aid.
G doesn't have a clue whats going on in the case anyway

" Gabriel is very much involved with Kramer despite what he tells his group."
I bet he is

 

[Mica]

From my previous post:

Ed Kramer Lawsuit
https://flii.by/file/8h3lao30c2i/

The link no longer works since I posted it here earlier. Is Kramer or his group reading here? Probably so. :thinking:

There are other links to the lawsuit viewable on the web. :happydance:

 

[Mica]

It is what it is you can't change the facts Kramer (and Eliot) are the same person
Kramer (and Eliot) as his manager. He knew that IMO I head John say in a video call Kramer
He is falsely giving the appearance he wants nothing to do with Kramer, a sex offender.
http://www.mugshot-publication.com/Counties/Georgia/Gwinnett-County/Edward-Eliot-Kramer.951973.html

Too late for that we all know let his followers drink the kool aid.
G doesn't have a clue whats going on in the case anyway

" Gabriel is very much involved with Kramer despite what he tells his group."
I bet he is

What a hideous picture of this sex offender! Why in the world would TJ Ward ever work with him? :gaah:

 

[Betty Davis Eyes]

Well my darlings thank you kisses
I don't know how much longer they can torture themselves with you videos, they say you have stories have become so boring
you talke forever they fall asleep most of the time same old story
He need's money to go back to aruba for two days to get the box of bones he knows they are Natalee's again My God
or did he already go back:gaah:

He's on the east cost now this guy does some talking lord.
G was acting crazy repeating everything a few times
I think he's lost the small mind that he once might of had.
He can't take it that he's a informant nothing more not special didn't get paid. Hates TJ Ward same old news no news

 

[Mica]

Well my darlings thank you kisses
I don't know how much longer they can torture themselves with you videos, they say you have stories have become so boring
you talke forever they fall asleep most of the time same old story
He need's money to go back to aruba for two days to get the box of bones he knows they are Natalee's again My God
or did he already go back:gaah:

He's on the east cost now this guy does some talking lord.
G was acting crazy repeating everything a few times
I think he's lost the small mind that he once might of had.
He can't take it that he's a informant nothing more not special didn't get paid. Hates TJ Ward same old news no news

Gabriel alluded to the possibility of already going back. Also something BIG happening soon.

:rollercoaster:

 

[neesaki]

Good grief, this has all become so bizarre and convoluted , what with all this Facebook type mentality crap. The whole social medial thing is a disaster, it’s bad for people, it’s bad for the world, it’s a huge ****ing joke! Because it’s over run by fools trying to fool all the people on there, and narcissists that are seeking attention. I do totally know our posters here are way smarter than that though!

 

[Barb Wire]

He's desperately Seeking attention:tantrum: IMO