ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 1

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  • #361
Robyn Gardner was in the middle of an bitter alimony battle with her ex-husband when she disappeared in Aruba, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Robyn married Kenneth Gardner in 1998. The two separated by 2007, and their divorced was finalized May 6, 2009.

As part of their separation settlement, Kenneth was ordered to pay Robyn $2,000 per month for 36 months, as well as two lump sum payments of $15,000 in October of 2009 and 2010.

EXCLUSIVE: Read The Legal Documents Here

In paperwork exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com from the Circuit Court for Frederick County in Maryland, Kenneth petitioned to modify the alimony earlier this year and Robyn opposed.

Prior to their split, the couple lived well in suburban Washington, D.C. They had an expensive house and drove a Mercedes Benz. But their home had two mortgages and then Kenneth Gardner lost his job with a construction company.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/missing-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-was-alimony-battle-with-ex-husband
 
  • #362
Ok I find the boyfriend's (RF) statements to the media a little worrisome. The FBI has asked him to stop talking and he continues to do it anyway. Why does he feel the need to seek attention? Is he making money off of his interviews, pictures etc?

Twice today I have seen articles on RadarOnline where he gave them an exclusive and both times he says they have been together 2 1/2 years BUT in other articles he says they have been dating the last 8 months .... so which is it?!?!

So if it was 2 1/2 years ago that would be Feb 09, was she cheating on her husband with RF?

Also here's a new article by RadarOnline ...

Robyn Gardner Was In Alimony Battle With Ex-Husband When She Went Missing In Aruba
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...yn-gardner-was-alimony-battle-with-ex-husband
 
  • #363
Modeling?? Seriously? She was 35! Fake everything.

The only modeling she could have been doing is 🤬🤬🤬🤬. That, and prostitution, were the direction I was going.

Comments after this article are pretty interesting....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...sing-in-aruba/2011/08/09/gIQAUYzh4I_blog.html

Looks like I'm not the only one suspicious of the whole thing.

If you will notice the quote in my post, I wasn't responding to you, i was responding to otto's post which mentions that she was unemployed at the time.

Obviously, any kind of "modeling" she would do at age 35, with her overall demeanor and physique, would not be for Vogue magazine or the Paris runway.

A person wouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to see that there was something hinky about Giordano and his brand of modeling.
 
  • #364
I've been trying to research dead bodies in oceans and what happens to them... I am thinking he possibly strangled her and threw her over a cliff.

Here is some info for those interested, from wikipedia:

Disposal of evidence

There may be a number of reasons for this kind of crime. One common reason for this behavior is to dispose of the evidence. The body may be the victim of a homicide, as for example murder or manslaughter. In some cases, the victim may even be still alive and drown during the process. A live victim is usually restrained to reduce the likelihood of the victim freeing themselves or fighting back, and the body is often weighted to ensure the sinking of the body. The mafia is infamous for disposing of victims in oceans or lakes with their feet cast in a concrete block. Other variants tie concrete blocks or other heavy objects to the victim. The Chicago-style method involves wrapping heavy chains around the victim. In Venice, barrels filled with a human body and concrete are occasionally found in the canals.
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Problems

While a corpse properly buried at sea is unlikely to reappear, many criminals are unable to ensure the permanent disposals of a body, and evidence of the body may reappear.
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A disposal in large lakes or oceans is more likely to hide the body, but a decomposing body can develop a strong positive buoyancy due to the decomposing gases being trapped underneath the skin. This may bring the body up to the surface, or at least increase the movement across the ocean floor due to wave actions. Many bodies have washed up at the shore. Bodies have also been discovered in the nets or lines of fishermen, and occasionally, bodies are also discovered by divers.

In researching where in Aruba would be the best place to discard the body, such as a cliff, I found an old posting from the Hollaway case:

I am very frustrated that the FSU forensic divers never searched Boca Mahos...they could have found evidence of Natalee Holloway there...I am certain of it.

Now who will do that job? My childhood friends who used to skin dive and spearfish in there are way beyond the task, now.

So difficult to be so far away and a voice in the wilderness...no one has answered my emails to Greta, Texas Equusearch, MSNBC, Aruba Today.

I know that area of sea has to be the place they tossed the lifeless body of Natalee Holloway...or it has to be ruled out.

Someone in Aruba, please contact the Texas Equusearch Mr. Miller about the probability that a dead body would most likely be tossed over the cliff at Boca Mahos...the old garbage dump into the sea where the sharks were fed.

I was born in the Lago Hospital of the American oil refinery in Aruba and lived in the company town, Lago Colony (Seroe Colorado) all of my childhood and youth, until leaving for college in the States.

All of my Lago friends who grew up in Aruba, including the boys who loved nothing more than skin diving and spearfishing, swam all of those waters with only flippers, snorkle and mask and their trusty spearguns.

They all agree that by far, the fastest and easiest and surest way to dispose of a dead body would be to run over to Boca Mahos from Noord, drive up to the edge of the cliff and toss the body out into the crashing waves over the shear drop of the undercut cliff.

Look at Boca Mahos and the boys I grew up with jumping into the sea as teenagers...

This boca, cove, if you will, MUST be searched by the Navy Seals and the Florida State University forensic divers...or they will have missed the MOST LIKELY PLACE to dump a dead body to hide it forever.

If they dive and search that boca, they will find some traces of Natalee...I am sure...very very very sure.

All of my Aruba friends who know the island as well as I do, and beter, agree...dive in Boca Mahos...and you will find something...

If you do a google search for "Boca Mahos" and "Natalee Hollaway" over 200 web pages come back with these words in them. So it was a popular idea that this is a spot to cast off a dead body.

BocaMahos.jpg


This guy is going to get off on murder 1 if that body isn't found. At this point I see one of a few things happening:

1. Body is found. Evidence of strangulation or other cause of death is found, found guilty of murder.
2. Body is found. No evidence of some other cause of death than drowning is found, acquitted. Returns to the U.S. where charges can be pressed for the crimes he has here with other women.
3. No body is found. Returns to the U.S. where charges can be pressed for the crimes he has here with other women.



Illegal disposal of bodies in the water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
  • #365
Robyn Gardner was in the middle of an bitter alimony battle with her ex-husband when she disappeared in Aruba, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Robyn married Kenneth Gardner in 1998. The two separated by 2007, and their divorced was finalized May 6, 2009.

As part of their separation settlement, Kenneth was ordered to pay Robyn $2,000 per month for 36 months, as well as two lump sum payments of $15,000 in October of 2009 and 2010.

EXCLUSIVE: Read The Legal Documents Here

In paperwork exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com from the Circuit Court for Frederick County in Maryland, Kenneth petitioned to modify the alimony earlier this year and Robyn opposed.

Prior to their split, the couple lived well in suburban Washington, D.C. They had an expensive house and drove a Mercedes Benz. But their home had two mortgages and then Kenneth Gardner lost his job with a construction company.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/missing-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-was-alimony-battle-with-ex-husband
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Wow, that is a bombshell. I thought I had read a sentence in an article that she had been married previously.

That puts a whole other spin on her mysterious disappearance and the players in this.

Still wonder how she and her boyfriend met initially.
 
  • #366
I've been trying to research dead bodies in oceans and what happens to them... I am thinking he possibly strangled her and threw her over a cliff.

Here is some info for those interested, from wikipedia:



In researching where in Aruba would be the best place to discard the body, such as a cliff, I found an old posting from the Hollaway case:



If you do a google search for "Boca Mahos" and "Natalee Hollaway" over 200 web pages come back with these words in them. So it was a popular idea that this is a spot to cast off a dead body.

BocaMahos.jpg


This guy is going to get off on murder 1 if that body isn't found. At this point I see one of a few things happening:

1. Body is found. Evidence of strangulation or other cause of death is found, found guilty of murder.
2. Body is found. No evidence of some other cause of death than drowning is found, acquitted. Returns to the U.S. where charges can be pressed for the crimes he has here with other women.
3. No body is found. Returns to the U.S. where charges can be pressed for the crimes he has here with other women.



Illegal disposal of bodies in the water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I agree with the original post you found...if you were going to dump anything in Aruba, a body, evidence etc..this coast is where you do it. It is deserted at night, (sort of a tourist area in daylight, near the natural pool, gold ruins, etc) but empty at night and would need a local to navigate it at night, or at least have been there before. The water is very rough, with strong waves crashing against the cliffs, and the currents and tides very strong. If a body is dumped there, a very very strong chance it is never found. It would be washed into the sea very quickly. As the OP pointed out, it is possible evidence such as clothing etc gets caught on rocks, however, it wouldn't stay there for long...anyway just some info
 
  • #367
Modeling?? Seriously? She was 35! Fake everything.

The only modeling she could have been doing is 🤬🤬🤬🤬. That, and prostitution, were the direction I was going.

Comments after this article are pretty interesting....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...sing-in-aruba/2011/08/09/gIQAUYzh4I_blog.html

Looks like I'm not the only one suspicious of the whole thing.

Ouch! She's a beautiful woman and a victim. I've known women to model or act after 35 easily, but it seem she ran into foulplay.
 
  • #368
It is difficult to divorce from one's mind that tidbit that there was some rancor between an ex-spouse and her.

I also think that she was beginning to feel insecure about her future prospects and lo and behold, GVG arrives and meets her for cocktails, over a period of a year, you know, as a friend that she confided in. He probably boosted her ego and repeatedly assured her that she was exceptionally attractive and had a future in some kind of media venture.

Other people probably don't share this:

I'm not ready to concede yet that she was sexual with him. He may have even convinced her that he was gay for all we know.
 
  • #369
All of this woman's pictures are soft 🤬🤬🤬🤬. Does anyone have a pic of her that wouldn't be considered soft 🤬🤬🤬🤬?

Reason I even mention this is . . . this is the type of woman who sadly, attracts a stalker.

I think there is zero way that Gary G guy is innocent, and no way all her friends didn't sense it ahead of time, except her.

Very sad. Also, horribly sad for Aruba to take a black eye for this woman from the US with her "traveling companion" also from the US who apparently has made her disappear. Aruba doesn't need to take a hit for this man from the US. It's not like this is Aruba's fault.
 
  • #370
I agree with the original post you found...if you were going to dump anything in Aruba, a body, evidence etc..this coast is where you do it. It is deserted at night, (sort of a tourist area in daylight, near the natural pool, gold ruins, etc) but empty at night and would need a local to navigate it at night, or at least have been there before. The water is very rough, with strong waves crashing against the cliffs, and the currents and tides very strong. If a body is dumped there, a very very strong chance it is never found. It would be washed into the sea very quickly. As the OP pointed out, it is possible evidence such as clothing etc gets caught on rocks, however, it wouldn't stay there for long...anyway just some info

Thank you. That is an interesting point about how only an article of clothing might be found. That might not be enough to show it was HER, unfortunately. However, perhaps if it was a bathing suit or another article of clothing that has a photo of her in it as well, that could be pretty convincing to a judge it was her. MOO.

Based on this map, finding an article of clothing at that location which belonged to Robyn would invalidate GG's story, showing conciousness of guilt and lead to a conviction. MOO.

aruba.jpg


It is a 30 minute drive from that cliff to the beach where he reported her missing.
 
  • #371
Thank you. That is an interesting point about how only an article of clothing might be found. That might not be enough to show it was HER, unfortunately. However, perhaps if it was a bathing suit or another article of clothing that has a photo of her in it as well, that could be pretty convincing to a judge it was her. MOO.

Based on this map, finding an article of clothing at that location which belonged to Robyn would invalidate GG's story, showing conciousness of guilt and lead to a conviction. MOO.

aruba.jpg


It is a 30 minute drive from that cliff to the beach where he reported her missing.


Great map, what I find interesting about where she was missing has me wondering a few things:

1. the location of their hotel is also known as a good snorkeling spot, calm, clear waters, with easy access from the beach (Incidentally, near the location of the Lighthouse) so I am curious as to why they simply didn't snorkel on the beach near the hotel.
2. Where she was reported is an odd place to snorkel for tourists on vacation...it does have calm waters good for snorkeling, however, it is in a spot often visited by locals..past San Nicolaas. Usually a part of the island tourists don't often go. Well, I should say tourists do visit, however, with a snorkeling spot so near their hotel, curious as to why they chose this spot. Although Seroe is beautiful, so maybe they wanted to see the sights
3. In these waters, a body may eventually wash up, or some other evidence may as well. Calm, clear and very little tides and currents
 
  • #372
I'd like to know who her agent was for past modeling gigs and that person's take on what could have happened. That is, if she had an agent.

My advice is that any model or actor needs to get under the protection of a reputable agent. A good agent will be upfront and honest. You have to be very discerning concerning freelance work.

It doesn't matter what age you are for what they call "real person" modeling in promotional material.

We don't know yet, if or why GG was scamming her with the modeling, etc. I'm just putting that out there given his past behavior with other women. Therefore, I consider it a probability.
 
  • #373
Great map, what I find interesting about where she was missing has me wondering a few things:

1. the location of their hotel is also known as a good snorkeling spot, calm, clear waters, with easy access from the beach (Incidentally, near the location of the Lighthouse) so I am curious as to why they simply didn't snorkel on the beach near the hotel.
2. Where she was reported is an odd place to snorkel for tourists on vacation...it does have calm waters good for snorkeling, however, it is in a spot often visited by locals..past San Nicolaas. Usually a part of the island tourists don't often go.
3. In these waters, a body may eventually wash up, or some other evidence may as well. Calm, clear and very little tides and currents


Thank you. Here are my thoughts on those points.

1. They didn't go snorkeling. This never occurred based on the fact no gear was rented for her, and she didn't come with her own. She also puts hair extensions in her hair every week, and would not want to get her hair wet. Additionally, her family and boyfriend state she didn't like to go in the water and would not have done that. There are no witnesses that saw them in the water.
2. Interesting info. It further establishes the falsity of his story.
3. No body has washed up there, thus further establishing the falsity of his story.
 
  • #374
I'd like to know who her agent was for past modeling gigs and that person's take on what could have happened. That is, if she had an agent.

My advice is that any model or actor needs to get under the protection of a reputable agent. A good agent will be upfront and honest. You have to be very discerning concerning freelance work.

It doesn't matter what age you are for what they call "real person" modeling in promotional material.

We don't know yet, if or why GG was scamming her with the modeling, etc. I'm just putting that out there given his past behavior with other women. Therefore, I consider it a probability.

I have looked on modelmayhem and onemodelplace and did not find her on there. If you know of any other prominent modeling sites let me know, but if she was modeling those are two sites she would have had a page, IMO.
 
  • #375
I have been looking further into the idea that if one of her articles of clothing was found, what could that lead to in court. I keep running into "No body, no crime" under Dutch law, including Aruba.

Is this how it would play out if they did find her bathing suit or something on the other side of the island? Really?

If a sociopath like this guy wants to off somebody, all he has to do is take her to Aruba and throw her off the cliff where the waters wash her out to sea forever and then say she drowned while snorkeling?
 
  • #376
Ouch! She's a beautiful woman and a victim. I've known women to model or act after 35 easily, but it seem she ran into foulplay.

No, there is no way she would be doing any real modeling.

For a starters it is a young womans game. Fashion models are allmost all teenagers and adult/bikini models are generally 18-23. Middle age in modeling years is mid 20s and by the time you are 30 you are an old crone. The body ages and the camera does not like what it sees past mid 20s.

Also, tattoos are a big negative for photographers, any girl with lots of them, or large ones that can't be avoided/made over, is not going to find much work. Photographers want a blank canvas, not one that has been painted over. A few small discrete tats can be worked around, the ones RG had cannot.

There are woman in their late 20s and 30s who call themselves "models", but in reality most of those are really hostesses and escorts.

Why would any photographer hire a 35 year old when he can get someone who is allmost half that age and has a far more photogenic physique?
 
  • #377
She may not have any info. online. It could have been in the past. Perhaps she hadn't pursued it for awhile. However, after losing her job at the dentist office, she may have been more susceptible to a con man, saying he could revive her career.

I'm not saying that it isn't also a possibility that she was delving into the seamier side. It's just that some people are so ready to slap that label on her. I can understand their viewpoint. I mean look at the Long Island callgirl investigation. I'm sure some of those women had other ambitions before slipping into that business because they needed money.
 
  • #378
I have been looking further into the idea that if one of her articles of clothing was found, what could that lead to in court. I keep running into "No body, no crime" under Danish law, including Aruba.

Is this how it would play out if they did find her bathing suit or something on the other side of the island? Really?

If a sociopath like this guy wants to off somebody, all he has to do is take her to Aruba and throw her off the cliff where the waters wash her out to sea forever and then say she drowned while snorkeling?

Aruba is Dutch, not Danish. Different countries ;)
 
  • #379
I believe some other tourists said they saw her at some point, do we know when she was seen last?
 
  • #380
Aruba is Dutch, not Danish. Different countries ;)

Fixed! I don't know why I mixed that up, I should know better. :doh:
 
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