ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 1

[defense101]

Wow, seems a bit soon to call of the search for this young woman...in light of little evidence to show she was even near the water (from what I've read thus far). It just doesn't seem right to stop searching when they have a potential killer in custody.

Frustrating this is, just frustrating!

MOO

Mel

It could be that they have other evidence that shows the possibility that she did in fact die somewhere else if in fact she has died imo - the hotel room - the rental car?

 

[otto]

This is a bit unfair, don't you think?

She was reported missing on the 2nd. Today is the 11th. It's not Aruba's fault and it's not Aruba's missing citizen.

The beach where she went missing, Nanki Beach, is different than what is reported on NG. If she disappeared in the water, then 9 days is probably long enough as she's probably not going to be found. A ground search would still be a good idea.

 

[packerdog]

This is a bit unfair, don't you think?

She was reported missing on the 2nd. Today is the 11th. It's not Aruba's fault and it's not Aruba's missing citizen. The accused isn't from Aruba either.

How many people are missing right now, today, in the USA that have no one searching for them? Would you make the same comments as you did about Aruba about us??

I don't think it is unfair at all.

 

[otto]

Here's a link to information about a couple drowning at the Baby Beach area while snorkeling in 2006

http://bb.visitaruba.com/f2/snorkeling-second-thoughts-5344/

Here's more about the riptides in Aruba

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/drowning-aruba-48601/

 

[Melanie]

It could be that they have other evidence that shows the possibility that she did in fact die somewhere else if in fact she has died imo - the hotel room - the rental car?

I hope so -- and I hope they find Robyn soon. I'm not convinced she floated out to sea as the travelling companion said.

MOO

Mel

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Inside Edition featuring this case as I type. Video and/or text should be available on the IE website shortly.

 

[otto]

I hope so -- and I hope they find Robyn soon. I'm not convinced she floated out to sea as the travelling companion said.

MOO

Mel

From reading a bit about Baby Beach, and knowing that they were snorkelling in Nanki Beach - beyond the safety of the protective Baby Beach shores, it sounds like there are serious riptides and previous drownings in that very area. Since the traveling companion was dressed when he reported her missing, then she could have traveled quite a distance in the water before anyone started looking for her.

 

[tiredblondy]

I sincerely hope that Aruba has a lot more cameras watching what's going on since Natalie!

 

[OneLove]

If Giordano secretly filmed a former date having sex with him and then posted it on the internet, I would be VERY curious as to exactly where he posted it. This 'could' be a clue to pretty unsavory money-making activities. Or maybe he was just a schmuck who emailed it to some personal friends because he has extreme self image problems.

If he had a habit of making money off made from online-dating hookups, maybe she is still alive somewhere and was sold.

One media article said she 'saw' this creep twice a month. That sounds suspiciously regular and planned for them both. Is it possible that she might have been making income on the side? Could that income have been from something other than the sex trade?

 

[tiredblondy]

From reading a bit about Baby Beach, and knowing that they were snorkelling in Nanki Beach - beyond the safety of the protective Baby Beach shores, it sounds like there are serious riptides and previous drownings in that very area. Since the traveling companion was dressed when he reported her missing, then she could have traveled quite a distance in the water before anyone started looking for her.

Do we know for sure they were snorkelling? On Nancy Grace they had interviewed someone who ran a shop that rented out snorkelling equip and he said they did not rent any from him.

I suspect if he said it the info may be unreliable.:innocent:

 

[otto]

Do we know for sure they were snorkelling? On Nancy Grace they had interviewed someone who ran a shop that rented out snorkelling equip and he said they did not rent any from him.

I suspect if he said it the info may be unreliable.:innocent:

Robyn's companion said they were snorkelling at Nanki Beach, which is near Baby Beach. Researching more about the area surrounding Nanki Beach, it sounds like it can be dangerous.

http://www.shorediving.com./Earth/ABC/Aruba/Baby_Beach_Reef/index.htm

The person being interviewed was about to say more about the shop being more for scuba equipment, that they didn't have snorkelling equipment, when NG cut him off.

 

[cluciano63]

I've seen searches for missing people stopped in less than 8-9 days and that wasn't even when an ocean had to be taken into consideration...

 

[otto]

I've seen searches for missing people stopped in less than 8-9 days and that wasn't even when an ocean had to be taken into consideration...

The Island is so small that if anyone was in the water for 9 days they'll either be in the wide open ocean, or way down at the bottom. I can't see any point in continuing to search the water at this point. If something happened to her on shore, then she will turn up ... since her companion doesn't have the advantage of knowing all the hiding spots on such a small Island.

 

[CuriousHousewife]

I was a little surprised that NG was playing down the fact that Robyn was taking a free trip with this guy. Everyone knows there's no such thing as a free trip with a guy ... there's always a hidden agenda or set of expectations, yet NG made it sound like it was quite acceptable for a woman to accept a free trip from a guy. She's sending out the wrong message.

I agree with the portion I've bolded. Of course, no one deserves to die or be missing or whatever the case is here, but you would think a woman of her age would realize that if a man wants to take you on an exotic island vacation, it's not just for conversation, and so maybe she shouldn't have gone with someone that she clearly did not know very well. I can imagine that she was probably aware of what might be expected of her, but I believe she didn't realize he was straight up psycho, and that part isn't her fault.

 

[CuriousHousewife]

And something about the name "Baby Beach" creeps me out. I know why they call it that, but I cannot help but be creeped out by it.

What do you make of the boyfriend's contention that she wouldn't have wanted to mess up her hair, that she would have probably had a couple of drinks by that time and would have been ready to go out and basically party? That whole line of conversation strikes me as bizarre.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

When was she last seen? On the beach by the rental place where they saw them eating? What time was that? When was her last message to her boyfriend sent? Thanks.

 

[Dushi]

When was she last seen? On the beach by the rental place where they saw them eating? What time was that? When was her last message to her boyfriend sent? Thanks.

Boyfriend said her last message came in around three pm

 

[HatesSociopaths]

She was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents. Gardner, 35, told Forester, 40, she couldn't talk, but the next morning she emailed him to say her parents had surprised her with a family trip to Aruba, Forester tells PEOPLE.

That was Monday, Aug. 1. The following day, at 2:05 a.m., she posted a message on his Facebook wall saying simply, "This sucks." He wrote back, "inbox me." Then, 10 hours later, he wrote "Where r u baby??"

"I emailed her the rest of the day trying to get in touch with her," says Forester, a Washington, D.C., headhunter. "She sent me an inbox message on Facebook around 3 p.m. Tuesday, saying, 'Don't worry. I care about you I love you we'll talk and sort things out when I got back,' " he says.

That was the last communication Forester had from her.

Three hours later, Gary Giordano, the man with whom Gardner had traveled to Aruba, told authorities she went missing while they were snorkeling.

Is it just me or is Forester's story changing? I haven't heard this version before that she said to him she was going to Orlando (of all places.)

Somebody earlier made the point that last message at 3 p.m. Tuesday August 2nd could have been written by the killer. I think that's a good possibility. I am still trying to establish when she was last seen with exact time of day by someone other than this predator. From the other part of the interview, it sounds like Forester was plying her with emails and messages trying to elicit a response, and the killer may have sent this to calm him down.

The message given Tuesday morning at 2 a.m. on his FB wall "This sucks" is obviously her.

Article also mentions her return flight was supposed to be Thursday, August 4th. She was reported missing on Tuesday, August 2nd at 6:30 p.m. She arrived in Aruba Sunday, July 31st.

 

[OneLove]

And something about the name "Baby Beach" creeps me out. I know why they call it that, but I cannot help but be creeped out by it.

What do you make of the boyfriend's contention that she wouldn't have wanted to mess up her hair, that she would have probably had a couple of drinks by that time and would have been ready to go out and basically party? That whole line of conversation strikes me as bizarre.

I hear ya; no one would ever describe ME in that way, lol.

However, I DO know women who are all about 'Happy Hour' same time every day. For one, it's 5:00pm religiously, for an aunt by marriage, it is 3:00pm. These women are dressed and 'done-up', hand out and ready to begin their evening. Hair and full complement of makeup ALWAYS. My sweet husband thinks they are creatures from an alien planet, lol.

I can visualize this being the case here also. Plus, she and her boyfriend have been seeing each other long enough that he has probably experienced plenty of these occasions with her. She may be the sort that NEVER lets water splash her face for fear her face will ooze off into the pool.

 

[cocomod]

And something about the name "Baby Beach" creeps me out. I know why they call it that, but I cannot help but be creeped out by it.

What do you make of the boyfriend's contention that she wouldn't have wanted to mess up her hair, that she would have probably had a couple of drinks by that time and would have been ready to go out and basically party? That whole line of conversation strikes me as bizarre.

Some women take 2 hours to "get ready" to go out. I have a neighbor who will NOT be seen if she is not "perfect". We call her "barbie" because she is always dressed to the 9's and her hair and make-up are always 100%. She even admits that it is a curse.

JMHO - I can see how someone would describe a female as not being "water friendly" after a certain hour - especially on vacation. They would not want to take the 2+ hours to get ready to go out for dinner.

It does sound like her BF is talking trash about her, but possibly he is just being brutally honest. Describing her personality to show that G's story does not add up.