ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - #11

[neesaki]

Top two were taken in Aruba

Lots of discussion about this in thread 5, around page 29,30 if anyone is interested in reading what was already discussed

I just can't get passed that this Robyn in the surveillance video doesn't look like the Robyn in these photos. GG doesn't look heavier in the video but Robyn does. Even her cleavage doesn't look the same. Mainly the facial features, though contorted and blurry, don't look the same. Her skin color is also more pale.


Robyn Gardner's Final Hours in Aruba Captured on Surveillance Tape - YouTube

 

[Dushi]

So, you think that its the real Robyn at Chill, the real Robyn the first day, but a new Robyn on the final day?

Imagine the planning involved in that!
The tattoos.

Well, anything is possible and I am sure stranger things have happened
I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it, but thats just me

There are apparent differences, but I think its the picture quality

Surely those who know her well would have noticed a different woman

 

[neesaki]

Balashi Beach Bash August 3, 2011

By Moomba Beach (Albums)

Robyn and GG, 8th row from bottom, 2nd column (center of photo).
Closer shot 7th row from the bottom, 3rd column.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940

 

[Dushi]

Balashi Beach Bash August 3, 2011

By Moomba Beach (Albums)

Robyn and GG, 8th row from bottom, 2nd column (center of photo).
Closer shot 7th row from the bottom, 3rd column.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...2528940&type=3

It won't open for me

 

[neesaki]

So, you think that its the real Robyn at Chill, the real Robyn the first day, but a new Robyn on the final day?

Imagine the planning involved in that!
The tattoos.

Well, anything is possible and I am sure stranger things have happened
I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it, but thats just me

There are apparent differences, but I think its the picture quality

Surely those who know her well would have noticed a different woman

Planning indeed.

It's probably Robyn, just call me :crazy:.

 

[neesaki]

It won't open for me

Strange, it worked for me a few minutes ago, now it's not working.

 

[neesaki]

I think it works now, I re-did the link.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940

 

[Sapphire]

Here's two more pictures of Robyn and Gary at the same event.

http://www.clickonaruba.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=846

 

[Tugela]

Not a stand up guy? Hardly, in that at least you are correct. Actually there are more than allegations, he had criminal charges against him. I'm sure you know about those, so I don't know why you are labeling it as simply "allegations".
So you are ascertaining that all of these women are just fabricating this, he's just being framed, is that it? Sounds like something one of Clinton's attorneys might say in trying to defend him against a sexual scandall involving Monica Lewinsky. What the definition of "is" is??? What do they call that, besides BS ? :lol:
Oh, I would suggest you not underestimate the knowledge of the locals on Aruba, it is, after all a small island, and they know their island very well. jmo

Allegations are allegations. Unless proven (and allmost all of them were unproven), they remain just that. An allegation is not proof of anything. And the fact remains that it is human behaviour for people to misrepresent or simply make up stuff when they are in conflict with another person or entity. It happens all the time with everone else, so why should I believe these particular folk are any different in the absence of any evidence?

I don't underestimate the knowledge of locals. But, simple fact is that GG and RG were NOT locals. They would not have the knowledge of a local, so a local would have no idea what they would or wouldn't do.

 

[Tugela]

I just can't get passed that this Robyn in the surveillance video doesn't look like the Robyn in these photos. GG doesn't look heavier in the video but Robyn does. Even her cleavage doesn't look the same. Mainly the facial features, though contorted and blurry, don't look the same. Her skin color is also more pale.


Robyn Gardner's Final Hours in Aruba Captured on Surveillance Tape - YouTube

Looks the same weight to me. You don't get clear angles in the stills. The video is too low quality to say much about her face.

They mention that some witness claimed that she appeared groggy. It is clear from the way she is walking during the restuarant visit and as they are leaving that that is not the case - she walking quite normally without any signs of hesitation or disorientation.

 

[Dushi]

Looks the same weight to me. You don't get clear angles in the stills. The video is too low quality to say much about her face.

They mention that some witness claimed that she appeared groggy. It is clear from the way she is walking during the restuarant visit and as they are leaving that that is not the case - she walking quite normally without any signs of hesitation or disorientation.

I agree, she does seem to be walking normally in the video
But groggy to me means tired, sleepy.

I believe the word woozy was used
Does that mean sleepy or dizzy or staggering?
I don't know

 

[Dushi]

Allegations are allegations. Unless proven (and allmost all of them were unproven), they remain just that. An allegation is not proof of anything. And the fact remains that it is human behaviour for people to misrepresent or simply make up stuff when they are in conflict with another person or entity. It happens all the time with everone else, so why should I believe these particular folk are any different in the absence of any evidence?

I don't underestimate the knowledge of locals. But, simple fact is that GG and RG were NOT locals. They would not have the knowledge of a local, so a local would have no idea what they would or wouldn't do.

I agree with this POV
As a tourist , unless one asked about conditions, one wouldn't know

I don't recall reading that RG and GG asked any questions about snorkelling at all

They visited Jads but didn't rent anything IIRC or ask about snorkelling
Personally, if i were to go snorkelling in an unknown area, I would ask questions

Only thing I read, was a tourist saying that she and her husband recommended Baby Beach

 

[Blueskies]

Looks the same weight to me. You don't get clear angles in the stills. The video is too low quality to say much about her face.

They mention that some witness claimed that she appeared groggy. It is clear from the way she is walking during the restuarant visit and as they are leaving that that is not the case - she walking quite normally without any signs of hesitation or disorientation.

Yes a waitress at the bar said she looked doozy or woozy and perhaps that was after she was caught on camera upon arrival walking to the bathroom. Perhaps it was the mysterious drink concoctions GG made in the car?

As far as another tourist reccomending baby beach earlier that same day..GG lied about that as well cause they went the day before at nearly the same time so that cant possibly be true. His entire story is filled with lies that left holes in his story including how he picked Aruba with Robyn. If that were the case he would have never asked other women to go first.

We don't know what was said at the dive shop and asking questions about snorkling. Maybe he never asked because he had no intention on snorkling at Baby Beach that night?

 

[Dushi]

People also quotes an unidentified Ohio couple who said they sat by a couple who matched tattooed Gardner and Giordano on the beach in Aruba July 31 and recommended that they visit Baby Beach, where Giordano later told authorities Gardner disappeared after they were snorkeling. Reports say he told authorities the tide was strong, though weather reports for that day do not support that statement.

http://travel.usatoday.com/destinat...obyn-gardner-on-aruba-comes-up-empty/416348/1



may not be true, but it was reported

 

[Blueskies]

People also quotes an unidentified Ohio couple who said they sat by a couple who matched tattooed Gardner and Giordano on the beach in Aruba July 31 and recommended that they visit Baby Beach, where Giordano later told authorities Gardner disappeared after they were snorkeling. Reports say he told authorities the tide was strong, though weather reports for that day do not support that statement.

http://travel.usatoday.com/destinat...obyn-gardner-on-aruba-comes-up-empty/416348/1



may not be true, but it was reported

Good find..I meant his story on the TV interview where he made it seem that person told him earlier that same day about BB and it was his first time ever going to that beach on Aug 2nd. And how shocked he was when everything was closed and everyone left.

Certainly could be true about being told this on the 31st but he totally left out the part of going two days in a row and another tourist telling him this on the 31st and not two days later!

31st sounds alot more realistic to me

 

[Dushi]

Good find..I meant his story on the TV interview where he made it seem that person told him earlier that same day about BB and it was his first time ever going to that beach on Aug 2nd. And how shocked he was when everything was closed and everyone left.

Certainly could be true about being told this on the 31st but he totally left out the part of going two days in a row and another tourist telling him this on the 31st and not two days later!

31st sounds alot more realistic to me

I was not aware that he denied being on that beach on Aug 1st

 

[Dushi]

Sure would have been curious about his explanation of being there two days in a row

 

[Dushi]

anyone have a link to that interview
I would like to re watch it

 

[Dushi]

Listening to interview from ABC

In this one I do not hear him say anything about Aug 1st, isn;t saying he was or wasn't there on that day

 

[neesaki]

Sure would have been curious about his explanation of being there two days in a row

I know. Just one of the many questions forbidden by the Caylee Killer's atty.