ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 4

[HatesSociopaths]

Ink blots-are most noticeable when a ball point pen is used. In this case, when the forger's eye moves from the forgery to the original, the pen stays on the paper, but stops, then starts up again to do the next part of the letter. Each "stop" leaves a tiny dot of ball point ink, like a series of periods along the lines of the letters. The stroke following the "stop" is again heavier than the part of the line preceding the dot.

http://www.bankersonline.com/articles/bhv01n11/bhv01n11a7.html

I see periods along the lines of the letters. MOO.

ETA: Also of note, there is no need for a witness on this form. So that earlier report was false (surprise.)

ETA: This came from video at below link:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-walk-free-today/story?id=14463749

Does anyone else see the periods along the lines in this signature?

1C, 2A, and 3B are forgeries in below example:

http://www.bankersonline.com/articles/bhv01n11/bhv01n11a7.html

 

[HatesSociopaths]

So you believe he meant to kill her, just not the way it might have happened?

Correct.

 

[plaidmom]

Nothing is far fetched in this case.I just think she signed it, knowing he was beneficiary
He paid for it, maybe she had no issues with him being beneficiary

Thanks to some of the wonderful sleuthing here, I have considered that the original plan was for both to go "missing".

Nothing to lose, everyting to gain. Only something went wrong.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Just to clarify, the reason GG and RG both had 1.5 million dollar policies is because there is no option for them to be different. You can fill out the forms without buying it here and see what I mean:

https://www295.americanexpress.com/travel-insurance/home.do?aetiSource=G&extlink=pa-aeti-G

 

[Dushi]

Thanks to some of the wonderful sleuthing here, I have considered that the original plan was for both to go "missing".

Nothing to lose, everyting to gain. Only something went wrong.

I don't understand anything about tides etc
How far out would a body have to be taken not to return?
How would he know that?
Where would he do it and not risk getting caught?
There seems to be a very short time period that is not accounted for
He seems certain she will not be found.

Things certainly don't add up here but its hard to figure out what I think given the fact that i have no idea what is true and what isn't anymore.

 

[Dushi]

Thanks to some of the wonderful sleuthing here, I have considered that the original plan was for both to go "missing".

Nothing to lose, everyting to gain. Only something went wrong.

May I ask why you no longer consider that they were in it together?

I mean, If that was the plan, something really went wrong as he is in jail

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Is it possible the continuance he was granted in September of 2010, May of 2009, and November of 2007 was a postponement of foreclosure proceedings on his house?

 

[annalia]

Is it possible the continuance he was granted in September of 2010, May of 2009, and November of 2007 was a postponement of foreclosure proceedings on his house?

He is listed as the plaintiff is those cases?

 

[HatesSociopaths]

http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/...saparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda


:rocker:

Get used to it baldy.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

He is listed as the plaintiff is those cases?

Good point. I found the case in 2010:

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.u...seId=060100248342010&loc=23&detailLoc=DSCIVIL

It looks like it is a case with his second ex-wife, and the defense attorney is Thomas Murphy (?). It looks like Gary is suing his ex for $6757.

Here is the case in 2007:

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.u...seId=060100252202007&loc=23&detailLoc=DSCIVIL

It looks like he sued his ex (same one) here for $11,461. The case was eventually dismissed, but it took many steps in-between and looks like a real headache for the defendant.

I bet the reason she hasn't said much is she knows she will get sued!

Here is the case in 2009:

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.u...seId=060100115212009&loc=23&detailLoc=DSCIVIL

This was the COSTCO case, which was a suit filed against them for $5,000, which he lost. They had busted him for stealing jewelry from their store I believe.

 

[plaidmom]

May I ask why you no longer consider that they were in it together?

I mean, If that was the plan, something really went wrong as he is in jail

(((Hypothesis Alert)))

I mean, they are no longer in it together because GG panicked and swam back to shore.

When I consider that fact that GG is most likely "underwater" on his home and behind on child support it makes the most sense that he would disappear himself. Problems solved. Mom gets a nice check. Perhaps she's even in on it and will send him some funds when able. She's avoided the media so far, correct?

RG just wants to get away too. Her support payments are drying up, she's lost her job. She inks GG's name as almost as a joke. Mom (who is her benficiary on her "real" life ins. policy) will get the major payout.

Only....When D-day comes Robyn is a strong swimmer (we have reports of this? yes? despite her hair extensions?) and GG...not so much.

It is much easier to tell a half truth than a full lie. GG did indeed panic and swim to shore w/o his companion. He really did look back and she was gone. Only, he might have an idea of what happened to her. He may also indeed be telling the truth that he didn't kill her. Without a body we will never know.

Soooo, that's wayyyyy out there, but until LE giives us something more to work with?

Poke some holes! :crazy:

 

[neesaki]

How does that play into the insurance policy he had on the other girl in July 2011? IMO he was not mad. He used her life to try to get money. She was irrelevant, he needed a dead girl to collect on.

I do not believe this was a crime of passion.

I think in the beginning he was planning it, so not a result of his rage, but thereafter, I think things changed and his temper got the best of him, simmering beneath the surface or else, but I still think he lost it and it changed things. Still am not convinced that this isn't a human trafficking situation.

 

[neesaki]

Nothing is far fetched in this case.
I just think she signed it, knowing he was beneficiary
He paid for it, maybe she had no issues with him being beneficiary

I really think that if she did sign it w/ him as beneficiary that she did it because he said, "hey, all you have to do is sign this and the free trip to Aruba is yours".

 

[neesaki]

Thanks to some of the wonderful sleuthing here, I have considered that the original plan was for both to go "missing".

Nothing to lose, everyting to gain. Only something went wrong.

Oh dear, that just makes no sense to me...

 

[neesaki]

I've just been thinking that, if Robyn was murdered rather than sold, it must be really easy to make a body just "disappear", even in such a small island as Aruba.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Putting these up for Gary since he doesn't want his picture taken:

http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/...saparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda

 

[Shoretoshore]

Looks like he's lost alot of weight.. And seems as if he's aged 10 years since the arrest photo.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

There are some good updates on the Find RG FB page, particularly at Leigh-Anne's comment.




:seeya:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 

[otto]

I don't think that GVG and Robyn were in a conspiracy together to scam 3 million in insurance. I don't think that Robyn, who is 35 years old, was kidnapped and sold to someone in some foreign country. I think this is probably a straight forward case where GVG thought that it was easy to get away with murder in Aruba because he watched too much Nancy Grace, so he purchased 1.5 mil in insurance on Robyn and took her to Aruba. I think he gave her lots to drink from the time before they got on the plane and continuously until she was reported missing. I think he deliberately kept her a little drunk that so that he could more easily take advantage of her. I think that he wanted to push her into the riptides off the SE tip of Aruba or somehow have her drown. Whether he succeeded, who knows. If he didn't succeed in the riptides, then I suspect he drove to the SW tip, the area that was searched, and pushed her into any one of the many mines on that part of the Island. Hopefully she is on land so she can be found. If she's in the water, she could be half way to Venezuela by now ... somewhere on the bottom of the ocean. Since the water was reportedly glass like on the day that she was reported missing, she's more likely in a mine.

Alternatively, the pair went swimming in the wrong place, she drowned, he went for help, he disappeared and the generous travel insurance policy that he purchased for her is his downfall.

 

[Tugela]

http://www.bankersonline.com/articles/bhv01n11/bhv01n11a7.html

I see periods along the lines of the letters. MOO.

ETA: Also of note, there is no need for a witness on this form. So that earlier report was false (surprise.)

ETA: This came from video at below link:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-walk-free-today/story?id=14463749

I see periods in the printed part of the image too, are you saying that is a forgery as well?

It just looks like scanning/compression artefacts to me.