ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 4

[neesaki]

Most hotels have fresh water pools, but there's a huge difference when getting your hair wet in salt water (ocean). I avoid it at all costs when I choose to go in the water on Caribbean beaches. If Robyn had hair extensions, she might have been advised to avoid salt water that can be damaging to hair.

So you think that ocean water is worse than chlorinated swimming pools; I really have no idea, other than that I've heard that chlorinated pools are not good for bleached hair and can damage the color.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

So you think that ocean water is worse than chlorinated swimming pools; I really have no idea, other than that I've heard that chlorinated pools are not good for bleached hair and can damage the color.

My hair isn't bleached: I'm a 61-year-old silver fox, and yes, I would prefer to swim in a chlorinated pool than salt water.

 

[neesaki]

My hair isn't bleached: I'm a 61-year-old silver fox, and yes, I would prefer to swim in a chlorinated pool than salt water.

I guess I meant if chlorinated water is worse or as bad as salt water for bleached hair like Robyn's. But apparently no witnesses have come forth that saw them in the pool anyway. I'm getting the feeling that what is coming out in the media is very small tidbits of what the Aruba officials already know. They seem to be doing a good job of keeping it under wraps.

 

[neesaki]

That is an interesting thought; I've thought of it myself - where are the folks who saw them at the resort. Then I thought that...

I can't help but think that Tuesday was a perfect day; given they arrived on Sunday. It doesn't seem to be much time to interact with other vacationers.

They arrive Sunday. By the time you check in and get settled, it has to be going on close to 2-3pm, maybe later. Likely one of the first things you do is go out to dinner within a short time of being settled after a long day of travel.

Tuesday she goes missing, so that really leaves just Monday for fellow resort guests to observe their behavior.

It really is not much time for anyone to become familiar with a "norm" for her/him/them.

That's a good point, looks like good timing if he hadn't exhibited such suspicious behavior. He figured he would have to hang around a day or two afterwards for the search, so if he planned it the first part of the trip he wouldn't miss his return flight home. Plus, as you said that leaves less time for interaction w/ other tourists, etc.

As far as the salt water ... at the resort they stayed, that property has it's own private Island that you reach by private boat. It's not like most resorts where your beach goers and pool patrons interact frequently though out the day; making the folks to observe them even that many fewer.
JMO of course.

That's interesting about having it's own private Island, didn't know this. I checked out the hotel website, the boat comes right up to the hotel. And the waters off the island look extremely calm. In fact, it looks like the perfect waters for snorkeling. The website mentions kayaking but not snorkeling specifically, but hard to believe they wouldn't offer it as well. To me it just raises more red flags, why would they leave this beautiful resort that offers everything right there with it's own safe, private beaches and go to that public yet remote area with treacherous waters ? This alone, to me, says there's something wrong in Denmark, unless of course, someone's looking for someplace to get rid of someone, like GG did Robyn. JMHO.

 

[neesaki]

It was said he got the annual plan, which is how I got the $598 figure.

If that's correct, that sound kind of bizarre, why spend money on an annual plan, unless he figured if things went wrong in Aruba he might get another chance later.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

It was said he got the annual plan, which is how I got the $598 figure.

EH! What is an "annual plan"?--Like if an accident happened to Robin Gardner anywhere, anytime within the year he would be the beneficiary?? Can that be right?

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

It has been mentioned many times that GG went out of control when Robyn wouldn't do (sexually) what he wanted, as a motive for doing away with her.
It seems to me from the information out there (if correct), he just had spent the prior day or night having Robyn doing "beyond pornographic" photos with him. If he was indeed a sexual predator, surely he must have been denied perverted acts before by "other" women and didn't kill them? Why Robyn?
I cannot understand that as a motive, since he and Robyn were already in a sexual relationship ...whatever that involved!
Then again maybe I am just not understanding the term--"sexual relationship" as it pertains to a predator.:waitasec:

 

[neesaki]

Link to hotels photo gallery, w/ photos of Renaissance island, beach, etc.

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/hotel-photos/auabr-renaissance-aruba-resort-and-casino/

 

[neesaki]

It has been mentioned many times that GG went out of control when Robyn wouldn't do (sexually) what he wanted, as a motive for doing away with her.
It seems to me from the information out there (if correct), he just had spent the prior day or night having Robyn doing "beyond pornographic" photos with him. If he was indeed a sexual predator, surely he must have been denied perverted acts before by "other" women and didn't kill them? Why Robyn?
I cannot understand that as a motive, since he and Robyn were already in a sexual relationship ...whatever that involved!
Then again maybe I am just not understanding the term--"sexual relationship" as it pertains to a predator.:waitasec:

I know, it doesn't really add up when I think about it. Maybe totally financial reasons in the beginning, and he wasn't sure how or when it would work out thus the annual policy. Then his jealous rage over her texts to RF took over, like "how dare you when I brought you to Aruba and have spent all this money on you" kind of thing, and along w/ his drunkenness he lost his cool and foiled his plan. :groucho:

 

[cocomod]

It has been mentioned many times that GG went out of control when Robyn wouldn't do (sexually) what he wanted, as a motive for doing away with her.
It seems to me from the information out there (if correct), he just had spent the prior day or night having Robyn doing "beyond pornographic" photos with him. If he was indeed a sexual predator, surely he must have been denied perverted acts before by "other" women and didn't kill them? Why Robyn?
I cannot understand that as a motive, since he and Robyn were already in a sexual relationship ...whatever that involved!
Then again maybe I am just not understanding the term--"sexual relationship" as it pertains to a predator.:waitasec:

What if the sexual pictures were taken while she was drugged? IIRC, they indicated that they could not tell if she was awake or not in the pics.

The thing that indicates lying with regards to snorkling is the fact that they have surveillance video just minutes before she was suppose to go snorkling in an ankle length dress. Does not add up at all.

 

[Peliman]

Adds up for me, in fact maybe the perfect murder. A number of drownings occur from persons on drugs or alcohol, then going swimming, diving etc.

Even if they recovered her body it may only show she drown when in fact she was probably murdered. It troubles me her body wasn't found though and I'll bet it troubles GG too.

It all sounds like a well planned set-up to me especially because of the insurance policy. I'm not sure we'll ever know the truth.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

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