ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 8

[neesaki]

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November 30, 2011

Thanks! Saved me lots of work,LOL. :seeya:

 

[vlpate]

I have posted links to this case from the very beginning and i will continue to do so
You can do your own research and decide whether its credible or not.
I mean, all the NE reports are posted here
Do you think they are credible?

If the above opinion of the writer was different, would you choose to believe it then?

I don't think the bolded comment above was neccessary

You're right, it wasn't....I should have left off your handle.

The credibility doesn't lay with the author of the story - or lack thereof, the credibility becomes a problem for the poster using these articles as a basis for discussion - in my opinion. I think when someone asks a follow up question like, where is the proof that these two women conned Nancy Grace, one should be able to follow through and answer the question. Because this is the only "blog" stating this opinion, it seems not to be based on fact. Do you see what I mean?

My annoyance was not at you Dushi, my annoyance was and has been for the past year, at the unbridled snarkiness and lack of fact finding on the site issues.cc. So I apologize if my comeback seemed personal, it was not.

 

[LambChop]

I seem to recall that as well

I will have a look and see if i can find the links

I believe it was a friend of hers that said Robyn asked Gary to take her away
It was on the Joy Behar show

MO

I think that text to Gary, get me out of here, was right before they were getting ready to leave for their trip. jmo

 

[vlpate]

I think that text to Gary, get me out of here, was right before they were getting ready to leave for their trip. jmo

Good morning lambchop - I have looked and looked and I can't find this anywhere. Was it said on one of the morning or evening shows maybe? If so, do you know by whom? TIA

 

[vlpate]

Hi Nova,

Just wondering why it would take the FBI so long for the handwriting analysis to be completed, and if they found it was forged, why might they not release that info? Wouldn't that have been evidence enough to continue to hold GG over in Aruba?

If handwriting analysis (which can never be proved as 100% accurate), were enough to land someone in jail, Patsy Ramsey would have at least spent a few nights there. I think if combined with other evidence, it may become relevant, as Nova stated, to show premeditation.

He's forged documents before, so it doesn't seem at all out of the realm of possibility that he would do it again.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Your welcome, keep up the good work along with the others

:applause::gthanks:

Have to say, Saracen, that was a first rate post!!--I am not one of the ones who do that kind of research ,mainly because I do not know how to reference it on WS, pretty sad, huh?

Your comment is something I should have said a long ago:iamashamed:

...but you have given me the opportunity to echo your statement, and Thank you for that thoughtful post. You are right on with your comments---weather we agree with those references or not, it allows us to have a more informed debate.:biggrin:

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

If handwriting analysis (which can never be proved as 100% accurate), were enough to land someone in jail, Patsy Ramsey would have at least spent a few nights there. I think if combined with other evidence, it may become relevant, as Nova stated, to show premeditation.

He's forged documents before, so it doesn't seem at all out of the realm of possibility that he would do it again.

Then why bother to make a big deal about it? I think there was quite a lot of discussion about that. Seems some felt it was the "nail in the coffin". ....and I would think it could of at least added some credence to the insurance scam speculation, and been enough to perhaps hold GG longer in Aruba.

 

[LambChop]

You're right, it wasn't....I should have left off your handle.

The credibility doesn't lay with the author of the story - or lack thereof, the credibility becomes a problem for the poster using these articles as a basis for discussion - in my opinion. I think when someone asks a follow up question like, where is the proof that these two women conned Nancy Grace, one should be able to follow through and answer the question. Because this is the only "blog" stating this opinion, it seems not to be based on fact. Do you see what I mean?

My annoyance was not at you Dushi, my annoyance was and has been for the past year, at the unbridled snarkiness and lack of fact finding on the site issues.cc. So I apologize if my comeback seemed personal, it was not.

This is just my opinion only but I'm just a sock puppet so what do I know.

I don't see anything wrong with posting a video even if the comments to the video are someone's opinion. We do that here. Post a link and an opinion. Opposing views give us something to think about and often spark possibilities we had not thought about. Since there are not many facts for us to consider we are left pretty much with speculation as to what happened to Robyn. From what I can see we have all brought up some good points as to why WE think GG should remain a suspect in RG's disappearance.

I don't take this case personally as we are trying to find out what actually happened to this poor woman. Some may because they can relate to someone like GG who has been in their life in the past. People have different lifestyles and that is not the issue here, it's about what happened to RG and I feel we owe it to her to keep trying without attempting to victumize her twice.

I agree with your post but feel as long as a link has some valuable information in it we should be permitted to post it. Whatever comments are included with the link are just that comments we can ignore if we choose to do so. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Good morning lambchop - I have looked and looked and I can't find this anywhere. Was it said on one of the morning or evening shows maybe? If so, do you know by whom? TIA

I think it is in one of the earlier threads, second or third, when I first joined the discussions here. I'm not sure if she was on the way to the airport or it was early in the morning when she texted him but it was not RF. jmo

 

[LambChop]

If handwriting analysis (which can never be proved as 100% accurate), were enough to land someone in jail, Patsy Ramsey would have at least spent a few nights there. I think if combined with other evidence, it may become relevant, as Nova stated, to show premeditation.

He's forged documents before, so it doesn't seem at all out of the realm of possibility that he would do it again.

And wouldn't that make it a US issue if the handwriting did not match since the form was filled out in the US? I think Aruba just wanted to know as it would give them something else to hold him on and maybe that is why they asked for a second opinion and would prove motive.

I agree that just the handwriting difference alone would not be enough, he has to execute the document before the FBI will act because the crime is getting the money. There is way too much wrong with both the form and with GG admitting RG was drinking and took sleeping pills in the middle of the day for GG to even think about putting in for that claim, IMO. I would hope his attorney would advise him of this. Right???? jmo

 

[Saracen]

:applause::gthanks:

Have to say, Saracen, that was a first rate post!!--I am not one of the ones who do that kind of research ,mainly because I do not know how to reference it on WS, pretty sad, huh?

Your comment is something I should have said a long ago:iamashamed:

...but you have given me the opportunity to echo your statement, and Thank you for that thoughtful post. You are right on with your comments---weather we agree with those references or not, it allows us to have a more informed debate.:biggrin:

Thank you R.U.Kidding, I do not see how the credibility of the post is a problem for the poster,as stated in a post above, these links are out there in the public domain and some people here are taking the trouble to find them.This thread was nearly dead a few weeks ago,and if it was not for posters finding these links it would have been. JMO.:fence:

 

[otto]

I don't think Robyn asked Gary to take her specifically to Aruba. I am not good with posting links but if I am not mistaken it has been mentioned quite a few times that Robyn called Gary and asked him to "get her out of here!" Where ever she was at the time.

Since I have not posted a link I will just say this is my opinion.

"Gary Giordano received an sms with the words “Take Me Out Of Here” from Robyn Gardner. He went online, googled for a destination, chose Aruba and booked their trip. It was odd that Robyn wanted to continue traveling, because she had just returned from a trip with her friends. She told her boyfriend she was going to Florida and instead came to Aruba with another man."

http://arubaherald.com/court/823-missing-woman-text-to-travel-companion-take-me-out-of-here-.html

http://www.wbal.com/absolutenm/templates/story.aspx?articleid=78438&zoneid=2

 

[LambChop]

Snipped: my annoyance was and has been for the past year, at the unbridled snarkiness and lack of fact finding on the site issues.cc. So I apologize if my comeback seemed personal, it was not.

I have to agree with you 100% here. The personal comments made to other posters is too distracting from what we are trying to do here. The purpose of the thread is to try and determine if this was an accident, as GG claims, or if there is something else going on here. His past clearly has a significant bearing on a motive if this was, indeed, a crime. It can be discussed freely, I believe.

In my opinion the snarkiness could be an attempt to shut down the thread and I do not want to see that happen. We have all been very productive in trying to sort things out and let's all just keep going. At some point we could get to the heart of the matter and that is what happened to RG. jmo

 

[Dushi]

I have to agree with you 100% here. The personal comments made to other posters is too distracting from what we are trying to do here. The purpose of the thread is to try and determine if this was an accident, as GG claims, or if there is something else going on here. His past clearly has a significant bearing on a motive if this was, indeed, a crime. It can be discussed freely, I believe.

In my opinion the snarkiness could be an attempt to shut down the thread and I do not want to see that happen. We have all been very productive in trying to sort things out and let's all just keep going. At some point we could get to the heart of the matter and that is what happened to RG. jmo

I am not sure I understand your comment?

 

[Sapphire]

Good morning lambchop - I have looked and looked and I can't find this anywhere. Was it said on one of the morning or evening shows maybe? If so, do you know by whom? TIA

I was said by Carla Baron on her page. It was also written in an article in the Aruba Herald.



<snip>

"Although Richard Forester has been asked by the FBI to stop speaking to the media, he hasn't relented; it doesn't appear, though, that he is in anyway involved in this case. From the looks of what happened, Robyn Gardner was no longer interested in being with him. Why else would she have flown off to Aruba with Gary Giordano? What's more, why would she have sent a text to Gary prior to their trip saying "Get me the hell out of here?"


http://www.carlabaron.net/missing.html



Missing woman text to travel companion: &#8220;Take Me Out Of Here&#8221;
Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:13

Gary Giordano received an sms with the words &#8220;Take Me Out Of Here&#8221; from Robyn Gardner. He went online, googled for a destination, chose Aruba and booked their trip. It was odd that Robyn wanted to continue traveling, because she had just returned from a trip with her friends. She told her boyfriend she was going to Florida and instead came to Aruba with another man.

<snip>


http://arubaherald.com/court/823-missing-woman-text-to-travel-companion-take-me-out-of-here-.html

 

[LambChop]

I am not sure I understand your comment?

I think there are too many personal snips at others on the thread which has brought on warnings from the mods. I just think we need to stay a little more focused on the subject we are discussing and not get personal with other posters. It tends to lead us off topic as I'm doing right now. lol

We have made significant progress here I think by the number of postings we see. We all just need to stay on topic is all I was trying to say and direct our disagreements to the posting and not the poster. Otherwise our poor mods get pulled away from all that Christmas shopping they have left to do. lol

 

[Sapphire]

Oops, I apologize for reposting the link to the Aruba Herald. I'm a little behind here and didn't see the link had already been posted by otto. :blushing:

 

[LambChop]

I was said by Carla Baron on her page. It was also written in an article in the Aruba Herald.



<snip>

"Although Richard Forester has been asked by the FBI to stop speaking to the media, he hasn't relented; it doesn't appear, though, that he is in anyway involved in this case. From the looks of what happened, Robyn Gardner was no longer interested in being with him. Why else would she have flown off to Aruba with Gary Giordano? What's more, why would she have sent a text to Gary prior to their trip saying "Get me the hell out of here?"


http://www.carlabaron.net/missing.html



Missing woman text to travel companion: “Take Me Out Of Here”
Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:13

Gary Giordano received an sms with the words “Take Me Out Of Here” from Robyn Gardner. He went online, googled for a destination, chose Aruba and booked their trip. It was odd that Robyn wanted to continue traveling, because she had just returned from a trip with her friends. She told her boyfriend she was going to Florida and instead came to Aruba with another man.

<snip>


http://arubaherald.com/court/823-missing-woman-text-to-travel-companion-take-me-out-of-here-.html

I always told my daughters you can never find Mr. Right if you are in a relationship with Mr. Wrong. lol So it's possible Robyn was looking for the right person for her but in the meantime wanted to spend some time with whomever was willing to take her away. Not many men would be willing to just take off on vacation at the drop of a hat, which it appears GG was trying to get her away for a long time and now she agreed.

She was not living with RF so I would not consider them as partners, just someone she had been seeing and considered a boyfriend but not one who paid her rent. She was more involved with RF than she was with GG. Her relationship to GG seemed to be more casual from appearances. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Oops, I apologize for reposting the link to the Aruba Herald. I'm a little behind here and didn't see the link had already been posted by otto. :blushing:

Don't apologize. It doesn't hurt and makes it easier to find if you need to post it again. lol jmo

 

[otto]

Robyn was no Natalee Holloway ... that much is obvious, yet NG perpetuates the misconception that the 33 year old divorced woman with some questionable history was a naive victim. We know that isn't true. By all accounts, she seems to have been rather fiesty, moreso when she was drinking (alcohol indulgence is definitely a factor here). She was also moving in "high risk" circles by participating in virtual pick-up joints, dating two men at the same time and advertising herself as available for any type of photography. In discussions about how and why Robyn is missing, her true nature is relevant. White washing Robyn doesn't help figure out what may have happened, but at the same time it isn't pleasant to view a victim as having done extremely stupid things prior to disappearing.