ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 9

[vlpate]

She said they met on the first cruise.

What the heck was he doing on a cruise by himself? Not that she said he was, but hopefully he didn't meet her and hook up while he was with someone else.

A cruise would be the perfect place to get a woman tanked up and then find a right time to feed her to the fishes. I've never taken a cruise because I'm not really a people person, but it seems doable to me.

 

[katydid23]

So this woman said she went on cruises with him, and he never harmed her. My next question is, did he have million dollar life insurance policy in her name at the time?

 

[vlpate]

So this woman said she went on cruises with him, and he never harmed her. My next question is, did he have million dollar life insurance policy in her name at the time?

Yeah, well the former prosecutor didn't ask her that.

 

[LambChop]

What the heck was he doing on a cruise by himself? Not that she said he was, but hopefully he didn't meet her and hook up while he was with someone else.

A cruise would be the perfect place to get a woman tanked up and then find a right time to feed her to the fishes. I've never taken a cruise because I'm not really a people person, but it seems doable to me.

I took a cruise years ago on an Italian liner and we liked it. Did one recently and did not like it? I'd rather be on an island. If you are not a people person you won't like it. Meal times are like the lunchroom at work. lol

Sounds like RG was not the only person who may have backed out of a cruise with him. I wonder if this was the cruise he wanted to take some of those other women on who complained about him and they wouldn't go. You would think that something would have clicked in this woman's head unless it was taped pretty early on in the investigation. jmo

 

[Tugela]

Matt Gutman is standing right where GG claims they went into the water. The other picture looks to have been taken on the other side of Baby Beach and the green areas are in between Baby Beach and the road. On the other side of the beach road are the rocks. Mr. Gutman is pointing out the exact spot where RG supposedly cut her toe. lol It's a very large rock...GG claims she cut her foot on this very large rock. Stepping on a small rock, I could see her doing that, but this is a large rock and no way did she step on it. Had she tripped over it, she would have fallen for sure. jmo

How would he know those sorts of details? Is he part of the LE investigation team? Did GG personally pointout the areas to him?

 

[LambChop]

How would he know those sorts of details? Is he part of the LE investigation team? Did GG personally pointout the areas to him?

The new's crew were there while they were doing the reenactment. I don't think it was any secret as to where he claimed she went into the water. Cameras were out there while GG was going through the details that night and the next morning. Anyone on the Aruban news crew could have let ABC know exactly where GG pointed out. News people are very good in Aruba. Aruba is very high tech not at all like some of the other islands. We've seen some of the pictures so why would that be so hard to believe.

Yes, I can hear some of those Aruban reporters now. You say you went in there? Really? That exact spot??? Okay, then....let's get some pictures of this one. They live there, they know. jmo

 

[redheadedgal]

Actually, IIRC, the conversation was about you, personally, growing up where you caught sharks on the beach. So I thought the pictures were going to show us where that happened. It doesn't really matter, but I was confused a bit, Especially when Florida popped up.LOL

maybe one more cup of loaded eggnog will make this make sense :crazy:

 

[vlpate]

I took a cruise years ago on an Italian liner and we liked it. Did one recently and did not like it? I'd rather be on an island. If you are not a people person you won't like it. Meal times are like the lunchroom at work. lol

Sounds like RG was not the only person who may have backed out of a cruise with him. I wonder if this was the cruise he wanted to take some of those other women on who complained about him and they wouldn't go. You would think that something would have clicked in this woman's head unless it was taped pretty early on in the investigation. jmo

Too much planning on a cruise too...I don't like agendas on a vacation.

I don't know about the date on the video ... will look again, seemed early on to me.

 

[vlpate]

Not sure it proves anything. Even the witch in Hansel and Gretel tried to "fatten" them up before the kill. So four cruises and no money. How does he do it? Maybe she insisted on paying her own way. I went on a cruise with my family and we went as a group but I paid for mine with my credit card. She did not share that little detail. I mean did he pay for it. She just said she went on 2 cruises alone with him. Wonder if he has pictures of her she hasn't seen, or has seen and they were posted on the internet and that is why she won't show her face. jmo

Could be, but then I don't think she would come to his defense, ynwim?

 

[vlpate]

Interview is from August 2011. He was with his sons on the first cruise.

 

[Elisaa444]

The picture on the bottom was taken from a website that takes the pictures in Florida.

http://www.teamrebelfishing.com/

Wow. Nice find. Nice work. Very interesting...hmmm.

 

[katydid23]

maybe one more cup of loaded eggnog will make this make sense :crazy:

You must be watching us on the webcam. I just made DH and I some brandy and egg nog, heated up, as we finish wrapping the last presents. LOL

 

[LolliPop]

The new's crew were there while they were doing the reenactment. I don't think it was any secret as to where he claimed she went into the water. Cameras were out there while GG was going through the details that night and the next morning. Anyone on the Aruban news crew could have let ABC know exactly where GG pointed out. News people are very good in Aruba. Aruba is very high tech not at all like some of the other islands. We've seen some of the pictures so why would that be so hard to believe.

Yes, I can hear some of those Aruban reporters now. You say you went in there? Really? That exact spot??? Okay, then....let's get some pictures of this one. They live there, they know. jmo

So was it that exact spot where they went in as per the video posted that suggested it was ?

 

[LolliPop]

One has to question why that interview has not been posted before.

I certainly do.

Another Big question.

 

[LambChop]

Interview is from August 2011. He was with his sons on the first cruise.

Maybe he was doing a dry run with her as he did with RG in Aruba. jmo

 

[LambChop]

So was it that exact spot where they went in as per the video posted that suggested it was ?

Numerous witnesses claim they never went into the water. Only GG pointed to where he claims they went in. The point is where he claims to have gone LE did not believe his story and they did a reenactment to verify his claims. The "suggestion" was GG's that they went into the water at that point. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

I can't find anything else on this woman....anyone?

What is of interest is that Nancy Grace says on that interview that Robyn's brother can be seen.
That doesn't make sense taking into account that this woman is basically saying that he is not what they are portraying him as in the media.

Why would her brother be with a woman who is basically supporting him.

From what has been suggested in the media and by LE is that this man is the main suspect.

All these witnesses that apparently saw him although differing accounts of what they saw and then this interview where the brother is mentioned as being with this woman.

Why would her brother be associating with this woman ?

Something not quite making sense here, would yall not agree ?

 

[LambChop]

Too much planning on a cruise too...I don't like agendas on a vacation.

I don't know about the date on the video ... will look again, seemed early on to me.

It's interesting that GG would take so many cruises in such a short period of time, four with this lady and we know he tried to get a couple of other women to go on a cruise with him and also Robyn. That would have been 5 or 6 criuses in a very short period of time when he is reportedly having great financial difficulties. When you have an owner run business you work long hours and GG appears to be running more of a social life than a business one.

Wonder how the business end is going for him??? Certainly in the PR department it has not been the best for his type of business. jmo

 

[LambChop]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/robyn-gardners-final-moments-reenacted-aruba-14562389

In this reenactment at the 2:07 point you can see the actor running and he appears wet. Next frame shows GG and he does not appear to be wet at all. Witnesses say his bathing suit was dry. So why would the actor still be wet and GG was already dry?? My guess is another inconsistency. jmo

 

[vlpate]

It's interesting that GG would take so many cruises in such a short period of time, four with this lady and we know he tried to get a couple of other women to go on a cruise with him and also Robyn. That would have been 5 or 6 criuses in a very short period of time when he is reportedly having great financial difficulties. When you have an owner run business you work long hours and GG appears to be running more of a social life than a business one.

Wonder how the business end is going for him??? Certainly in the PR department it has not been the best for his type of business. jmo

IMO, he doesn't have a business, he has a website that makes it appear he has a business. All the verbiage is plagiarized from another employment agency website that had been around for years, and it is not his. I think he sells pictures behind the scenes on his website, IMO, and/or videos. Someone here stated they called the phone number on his website and it was a recording of him. You are right, he was having financial difficulties - why is he taking cruises? Why is he making drinks in his car instead of buying drinks at the bar if he is that successful? His stay at the hotel was paid for with points.

I think the woman on the video got lucky - there was never a good time. Like you, I would love to know what sort of insurance he signed up for on these trips.

Also - when he wanted the mother/daughter to go with him - imagine that windfall scenario. Daughter chooses mother as beneficiary and mother "clicks" Giordano.