ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 9

[katydid23]

Calls for a :toastred: to Websleuths!!!

:newyear::fireworks::sleigh::sleigh::sleigh:

 

[TheWNP]

I thought you may have it at hand so I would not have to go search for it through the hundreds of pages about this case.


Anyway I found it, here it is in case anyone else is interested in watching it:

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/44483842#44483842

If you study the video from the link (BBM), you'll note the following events:

at 1:53, the time stamp in the video shows 3:57:44 PM, GG goes to the car
at 2:08, the time stamp in the video shows 4:00:37 PM, GG returns

I noted both times as GG was passing the blue vehicle that has "PLAY" just above it and to the right. That means he took 2 minutes and 53 seconds to get to the rental car, fill the cup (with whatever), and, as I recall him saying in the GR interview, "smoke a cigarette", and return. Having been a former smoker, I find it rather odd that he would only spend about 2 and a half minutes smoking, assuming that he had not had one in quite awhile, so perhaps this is just another manufactured lie he dreamed up on the spot during the interview.

I don't know how long it takes for Ambien to start having an effect, but:

at 2:21, the announcer notes it's 4:07 PM when RG makes another trip to the bathroom and the announcer states "one witness says she appeared sober, but groggy".

If this is the only time any witness stated she was "groggy" (or woozy?), maybe that supports the supposition that he drugged her.

I also think that she never went in the water. Perhaps those of you who've been to Aruba could provide more speculative analysis of where GG might have taken RG within the known time envelope (since I think all discussions pertaining to where they supposedly went snorkeling are simply buying into GG's lies and are therefore fruitless):

at 2:45, the time stamp in the video shows 4:13:12 PM, GG and RG are leaving the restaurant
until
at 3:14, the time stamp in the video shows 6:16:30 PM, GG returns alone in his bathing suit

which is only 2 hours 3 minutes and 18 seconds.

 

[Seifert79]

I have taken Ambien several times, and I can tell you that it works VERY quickly. For example, I would always make sure to brush my teeth & wash my face BEFORE taking it, as it would almost immediately incapacitate me...FYI =)

 

[redheadedgal]

What, if you don't mind me asking, is the relevance?

i'm curious about this too...

 

[LambChop]

Google Earth giives a good understanding of the area. I've posted many maps throughout the investigation ... is there anything more specific you're looking for?

JADS location in Aruba

Here's an aerial of JADS restaurant and dive shop.

Here's the general search area

Possible area where car was parked <Modsnip -- Image blew the margins. See attached photo>

Third picture down is the search area LE was looking into for evidence as to where GG may have taken her during those two hours. The area to our right in the picture is the eastern shoreline. Cliffs are all along that area. Many of the cliffs are stories high so a fall from them could be fatal. The fact that GG had a scratch on his face indicates there may have been a struggle. Not hard to believe that would have happened given his history.

Witness saw them leave so they went somewhere and had he pushed her off one of those cliffs her body would never show up at Baby Beach. The currents on the eastern side of the island are strong and could have carried her out. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

Happy New Year!! I'm celebrating by thanking God this little one is safe and sound and snoring in her bed - may the new year bring justice for all children left tragically behind in 2011, and less of them to wish justice for in 2012!

All children should be safe, loved and happy as this little one obviously is.

Good looking little boy.

 

[LambChop]

If GG were into and there is some truth about his computer being wiped clean could he be involved in something that has worldwide connections and that is why they are so interested in what he had on his computer? It's no secret that he likes to take pornagraphic pictures of women and according to ALE...beyond . What bothers me is his connection with an 18 year old and when did he first try to make contact with her? And then there is that most bizarre statement he made about Aruba's main income coming from human trafficing and drugs??? What exactly has he been into? jmo

 

[LolliPop]

>SNIP<​

The fact that GG had a scratch on his face indicates there may have been a struggle.

>SNIP<​

I thought the area was full of razor sharp rocks, could he not have caught his face on these rocks ?

It was you that said that, wasn't it ?

If I am mistaken, please accept my apologies.

psst! And yes, this post is directed at you, as one can see, I have quoted you.

 

[LambChop]

I thought the area was full of razor sharp rocks, could he not have caught his face on these rocks ?

It was you that said that, wasn't it ?

If I am mistaken, please accept my apologies.

The witnesses reported he had a scratch near his chin/neck area that looked like a fingernail scratch. I said jagged/jutting rocks on the bottom as you enter. One does not dive into a foot of water or he would have had more than just a scratch, he would have broken his neck. I hardly think 10 foot of water where he claims they were would have produced a very fine lined scratch on his face. When questioned about the scratch he claims they were not arguing and that he did not kill her. He never said I scratched it on a rock when I dove in. Very odd to even have mentioned it because it is a defensive remark. People tend to get defensive when they know they have done something wrong. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

The witnesses reported he had a scratch near his chin/neck area that looked like a fingernail scratch. I said jagged/jutting rocks on the bottom as you enter. One does not dive into a foot of water or he would have had more than just a scratch, he would have broken his neck. I hardly think 10 foot of water where he claims they were would have produced a very fine lined scratch on his face. When questioned about the scratch he claims they were not arguing and that he did not kill her. He never said I scratched it on a rock when I dove in. Very odd to even have mentioned it because it is a defensive remark. People tend to get defensive when they know they have done something wrong. jmo

I totally understand now, thank you. The witnesses SAID he had a scratch that looked like a fingernail scratch.
And he never said he scratched his face on a rock, did he say it was a fingernail scratch ?

Just trying to understand these observations.

 

[neesaki]

I totally understand now, thank you. The witnesses SAID he had a scratch that looked like a fingernail scratch.
And he never said he scratched his face on a rock, did he say it was a fingernail scratch ?

Just trying to understand these observations.

As far as I know it has never been reported what GG's explanation was for the scratch, or what he told police. All we have are the witnesses statements that saw GG on the beach. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

As far as I know it has never been reported what GG's explanation was for the scratch, or what he told police. All we have are the witnesses statements that saw GG on the beach. jmo

I see, thank you, those Witnesses.

I must have misunderstood the statement below.


"When questioned about the scratch he claims they were not arguing and that he did not kill her."

 

[LambChop]

As far as I know it has never been reported what GG's explanation was for the scratch, or what he told police. All we have are the witnesses statements that saw GG on the beach. jmo

I believe it was on one of the GMA videos where the reporter claims they had been given access to the witness statements. So if this was reported to the police by witnesses there would be a police report on them, we just have not seen them personally and have to rely on what GMA claims they have seen. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

I believe it was on one of the GMA videos where the reporter claims they had been given access to the witness statements. jmo

Do we have a link to these statements that were made available to these reporters ?
That would certainly clear up a lot of confusion, certainly for myself as most of these media reports appear somewhat contradictory.

 

[LambChop]

I totally understand now, thank you. The witnesses SAID he had a scratch that looked like a fingernail scratch.
And he never said he scratched his face on a rock, did he say it was a fingernail scratch ?

Just trying to understand these observations.

Witnesses claimed he had a scratch on his face. One said chin, the other said his neck. They both claimed it looked as if it were a fingernail scratch. jmo

 

[LolliPop]

Witnesses claimed he had a scratch on his face. One said chin, the other said his neck. They both claimed it looked as if it were a fingernail scratch. jmo

These witnesses do seem to back each others claims up.

Thank you LambChop.

 

[vlpate]

All children should be safe, loved and happy as this little one obviously is.

Good looking little boy.

Thank you Lolli, he is adorable!

 

[Niner]

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012!!!


:newyear: :fireworks: :balloons:

:Banane57:

:Banane35:


and...

:welcome4:

TheWNP

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[Micheline]

I would imagine the sign is in the front... looks like the place where they made their exit there in the front as well....

What, if you don't mind me asking, is the relevance?

This exit:

Or this one:

 

[redheadedgal]

This exit:

Or this one:

the second pic is along the same side of the building as the first... just taken as they walk towards their vehicle imo. probably taken within seconds of the first.

again, what is the relevance? thanks!