Ashley Madison cheating website hacked, July 2015

[atthelake]

Have we seen any credible information about who the hacker is? In a situation like this, I am asking myself why someone would do this, and who is going to benefit from this? I mean, if you are just a hacker who comes across this treasure trove of scandalous dirt, why would you simply post it for free? Why not at least try to benefit your pocketbook a little? This has me scratching my head. However, since there are so many .gov addresses on here, it makes me wonder if this "hack" could be politically driven. Suppose for a moment that you are one of the people who has to go through all of the emails because of the Hillary fiasco. While doing this, you keep seeing the name Ashley Madison coming up, and discover what it is. I wonder how many Congressmen and Senators names on are that list? I wonder if there are any Presidential candidates on there? I wonder why the timing is so perfect to take the heat off of the Clinton email scandal? It is, after all, much more exciting to read about personal, private stuff than the goings on of a head of state. Just some thoughts that have popped in my head this morning. I believe there is a reason behind this leak. And not just a moralistic, holier-than-thou one. JMO.

I don't know if I agree with you. Still thinking on this one. I know in the past year I have seen stuff on a website that told and showed lots of private emails, chats, phone call recordings and other outing /shaming information. :moo: and it was done because the person(s) who collected and captured and posted it all online to share with the Internet merely was moved to do such because they thought it was morally wrong for what the other people did .

:dunno:

I think that is just a strong motivator for many individuals.Righting what they perceive as a wrong. Even if it may be / is illegal to do such...not necessarily money.

 

[bluesneakers]

Have we seen any credible information about who the hacker is? In a situation like this, I am asking myself why someone would do this, and who is going to benefit from this? I mean, if you are just a hacker who comes across this treasure trove of scandalous dirt, why would you simply post it for free? Why not at least try to benefit your pocketbook a little? This has me scratching my head. However, since there are so many .gov addresses on here, it makes me wonder if this "hack" could be politically driven. Suppose for a moment that you are one of the people who has to go through all of the emails because of the Hillary fiasco. While doing this, you keep seeing the name Ashley Madison coming up, and discover what it is. I wonder how many Congressmen and Senators names on are that list? I wonder if there are any Presidential candidates on there? I wonder why the timing is so perfect to take the heat off of the Clinton email scandal? It is, after all, much more exciting to read about personal, private stuff than the goings on of a head of state. Just some thoughts that have popped in my head this morning. I believe there is a reason behind this leak. And not just a moralistic, holier-than-thou one. JMO.

I think there's a specific reason too, but I couldn't begin to guess because so many people from all walks of life have been exposed. As for who did it my mind goes straight to the gamers of gamergate (or some other 4chan group) because this is the type of thing I suspect they would do and I also think they would know how to do it.

JMO.

 

[Trident]

There are already two suicides suspected to be linked to this terrorist attack by the hackers. How many more will we see? While others sit around looking for juicy details to gossip about their neighbors, people are dying. Lives are being ruined, careers shattered. Like I said before, what goes on in my marriage (and yours) is no ones business. None of us knows what agreements between spouses are or why those agreements have been made. Not all of the people on that list belong there or are hiding anything from their spouse.

But yes, keep ruining soldier's careers, political aspirations and watch the housewife down the street slit her wrists just so others can feel holier than thou.

uke:

I doubt the names were published so anyone could feel "holier than thou" <modsnip>
That said, I believe bringing everyone out in the open cuts down on the likelihood of blackmail and security breaches. Maybe this was the wakeup call a lot of people needed.

My opinion only

 

[neesaki]

Exactly. I call it laughable Karma. If you think it is fine to sneak around on your spouse then go for it...but watch your own back.

And when something's done on the internet the belief that it's 'private' is really only an illusion. When will people realize this?

 

[bluesneakers]

I doubt the names were published so anyone could feel "holier than thou", and anyone who commits suicide because of this gets no sympathy from me.

That said, I believe bringing everyone out in the open cuts down on the likelihood of blackmail and security breaches. Maybe this was the wakeup call a lot of people needed.

My opinion only

What about the families, loved ones, or children of someone who commits suicide because of this?

 

[psyquestor]

IMOO It is probably a disgruntled employee of either the AM group or the company hired for their online security. The "Times Up" bulletin excuses the head of the security company from fault, saying he did what he could, but AM will now be revealed for their fraud (paraphrasing).

 

[atthelake]

IMOO It is probably a disgruntled employee of either the AM group or the company hired for their online security. The "Times Up" bulletin excuses the head of the security company from fault, saying he did what he could, but AM will now be revealed for their fraud (paraphrasing).

Bulletin ? Link ?

 

[psyquestor]

Bulletin ? Link ?

I read it on pastebin earlier. Links are vanishing by the minute so just do a search. The full bulletin is there, not just the snipped version that was shared on MSM.

 

[CD82]

I doubt the names were published so anyone could feel "holier than thou", and anyone who commits suicide because of this gets no sympathy from me.

That said, I believe bringing everyone out in the open cuts down on the likelihood of blackmail and security breaches. Maybe this was the wakeup call a lot of people needed.

My opinion only

Wait.....are we sure these two suicides are AM subscribers? Or are they loved ones who were hurt/affected by finding out their spouse/significant other was being unfaithful? I'd hold off on jumping the gun like that.


My only comment is, if those who committed suicide were the ones who paid AM as a subscriber, why didn't they think ahead of the consequences? I'm not saying I have no sympathy, because I feel horrible for the loved ones/children/etc these people hurt and affected.

Fear keeps me from many things. I just wonder what didn't keep these people from this website. Is their want/desire for infidelity THAT STRONG that they just couldn't resist? Nothing on the internet is truly private.

 

[CD82]

I was referring to all the people who seem to be reveling in the take down of others based on a moral compass with a self guided pointer (not just the "hacktivists.") I find that kind of gossip extremely distasteful; like people have nothing better to do than cause others pain; how very "Christian" of them. (insert favorite religious system).

My Son died by suicide so I'll skip over what I think of your opinion, though I bet you could guess. Who are "you" to decide who needed a wakeup call? Seriously, people are distinctly NOT waking up from this "news."

Psyquestor- I'm sorry about your son. Suicide is horrible. I've lost many friends and loved ones to suicide and the pain never goes away.

 

[CD82]

IMOO It is probably a disgruntled employee of either the AM group or the company hired for their online security. The "Times Up" bulletin excuses the head of the security company from fault, saying he did what he could, but AM will now be revealed for their fraud (paraphrasing).

If you read the actual letter these "hackers" are sending to subscribers, they sound very young/uneducated (or lack of higher education, I should say.) Their writing style and verbiage does not sound like anyone with a college education. IMO of course.

 

[psyquestor]

Psyquestor- I'm sorry about your son. Suicide is horrible. I've lost many friends and loved ones to suicide and the pain never goes away.

No, the pain never does go away, you just learn to carry it differently over time. FWIW My Son's gf at the time was cheating on him and he was set to be deployed to Afghanistan. So, it's relevant to this conversation, although it was a great many things that created that "perfect storm" of events leading to his suicide.

Suicide is like a grenade going off in the middle of a group of people. All the people around the person who dies are injured to varying degrees. Apparently they ALL need that "wake up call." (insert expletive)

 

[psyquestor]

If you read the actual letter these "hackers" are sending to subscribers, they sound very young/uneducated (or lack of higher education, I should say.) Their writing style and verbiage does not sound like anyone with a college education. IMO of course.

Or someone with bad translation software. ? Whether one receives a formal education or not, they apparently know what they're doing (vis a vis hacking).

 

[bluesneakers]

I was referring to all the people who seem to be reveling in the take down of others based on a moral compass with a self guided pointer (not just the "hacktivists.") I find that kind of gossip extremely distasteful; like people have nothing better to do than cause others pain; how very "Christian" of them. (insert favorite religious system).

My Son died by suicide so I'll skip over what I think of your opinion, though I bet you could guess. Who are "you" to decide who needed a wakeup call? Seriously, people are distinctly NOT waking up from this "news." (ETA: And not necessarily their spouse finding out, but their boss, employer, children, etc. Pretty sure MOST people wouldn't want their children to be privvy to that sort of private information. Or how about their addresses, credit card numbers etc etc? That's okay too? )

I'm sorry about your son.

 

[bestill]

This leak is doing so much damage and this is just the beginning...even on WS reading these back and forth comments are distressing.

 

[T4Tide]

I don't know if I agree with you. Still thinking on this one. I know in the past year I have seen stuff on a website that told and showed lots of private emails, chats, phone call recordings and other outing /shaming information. :moo: and it was done because the person(s) who collected and captured and posted it all online to share with the Internet merely was moved to do such because they thought it was morally wrong for what the other people did .

:dunno:

I think that is just a strong motivator for many individuals.Righting what they perceive as a wrong. Even if it may be / is illegal to do such...not necessarily money.

It's really kind of the same as people who post pictures of car tags on social media, claiming the person cut them off in traffic or littered, left an animal or child in a hot car. Or videos that show politicians or celebrities coming and going from a mistress' home. According to some, we don't know what has been ok'd in their relationship.

I know there's a difference in illegal and immoral, but isn't hypocrisy just "immoral" and not illegal? If so, then it's no more our business that Josh Duggar, or the Sam vlogger guy, or any other hypocrite is a member of the site than it is that a non-hypocrite is on the site. Either wrong is wrong, or it's none of our business. Can't be both.

(I nosily and hypocritically vote for wanting it to be at least partially my business. Haha. Even though it really all none of my business, the human in me wants to know. It's like rubbernecking a car accident. Hard not to look.)

 

[CD82]

No, the pain never does go away, you just learn to carry it differently over time. FWIW My Son's gf at the time was cheating on him and he was set to be deployed to Afghanistan. So, it's relevant to this conversation, although it was a great many things that created that "perfect storm" of events leading to his suicide.

Suicide is like a grenade going off in the middle of a group of people. All the people around the person who dies are injured to varying degrees. Apparently they ALL need that "wake up call." (insert expletive)

I lost a dear friend the exact same way. We were Marines, stationed together and worked in the same shop. He learned his wife was being unfaithful, and had also received news about an upcoming deployment. We were all devastated by the news, as none of us had any indication that he was suffering. I try to remember that every single day. I strive to be kind to everyone; you just never know when or if someone needs a smile or compliment. Hopefully it pays off one day!

 

[bluesneakers]

IMOO It is probably a disgruntled employee of either the AM group or the company hired for their online security. The "Times Up" bulletin excuses the head of the security company from fault, saying he did what he could, but AM will now be revealed for their fraud (paraphrasing).

After reading this I think you're right about the disgruntled employee hack. This is about the company, not the victims.

&#8220;With this second data dump, I believe Impact Team wants to destroy Ashley Madison and Avid Life Media,&#8221; says Per Thorsheim, a security researcher in Norway who has been analyzing the data.

And it&#8217;s only bound to get worse. In an interview with Motherboard, the hackers said they have 300 GB of employee emails in their possession, plus tens of thousands of Ashley Madison user pictures as well as user messages

That all sounds very personal to me.

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/ashley...ng-you-need-to-know-your-questions-explained/

 

[neesaki]

Looks like it just got worse for Ashton: http://eastorlandopost.com/jeff-ash...riend-finder-account-new-information-suggests

Oh no, this is not good. :facepalm:

 

[T4Tide]

I doubt the names were published so anyone could feel "holier than thou", <modsnip>

That said, I believe bringing everyone out in the open cuts down on the likelihood of blackmail and security breaches. Maybe this was the wakeup call a lot of people needed.

My opinion only

That's right. <modsnip>

Like when one of my kids comes and tells me another one is doing something I wouldn't allow, I don't punish the whistle-blower. I punish the rule breaker.