AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #7

[Bohemian]

You would be an idiot to judge Karlie. Not the only report. Have a look around the media.

They were killed in a barbaric manner. Dead people cant tell their story which is convenient for some.

Like I said, where is the other woman? There is more to this.

Personally, I think government should have a road block into Alice Springs for 12 months. Stop every car going in and out.

There is a reckoning coming.....

I agree wholeheartedly. This story about Karlie is not the only one but it is the latest one and it will stick in Joe Public's mind and cause them to judge her harshly. People, for the most part expect MSM to do their thinking for them. It's mostly a function of our rapid 24 hour news cycle, combined with sensational 'click bait' headlines. Not many people actually 'read' anymore, crabby, and even less analyse the veracity of the source.

I agree, there is a lot more to come.

Hopefully, justice will be done.

 

[JaneSA]

Random thought of the morning...
I wonder if the police have worked out where Karlie was living from June 2006 to Nov 2008?
We know she at one time shared a house in Adelaide with her friend (for how long and when are unclear) and that she popped back to the Alice a few times, but where did she live when her daughter was an infant?
I can't imagine anyone willing living out of their car when housing options are so easily accessible, yet we have not heard about where she lived.

 

[Bohemian]

an awful lot of murderers are very shy about the motive for their killing/s. ... very secretive and often very protective of 'the Motive'.. its often an intensely private thing between the person killed and the killer.

One thing that stands out though, is that there are some motives that killers routinely deny.. .. one is 'jealousy'.. another is 'humiliation'... all that embarrassing stuff is buried deep, usually.

In the days when 'provocation' was a defence, murderers of women were not at all embarrassed about shouting out loud how this woman had called them out on their sexual failure time and time again, which is why they killed them, but its a defence that has far too slowly been repudiated as civilized, and sound, from legal point of view just about all over Australia.... it could raise it's ugly head again any time soon, though, nothing is forever in the law.

One thing that strikes me about the alleged injuries is how deeply personal these crimes were. Impersonal; shoot someone, more personal and angry, stab them; deeply personal and enraged, allegedly 'stomp someone to death'.

I'll be very surprised if the alleged murderer isn't male unless; of course, the injuries were from a vehicle.

 

[Bohemian]

Random thought of the morning...
I wonder if the police have worked out where Karlie was living from June 2006 to Nov 2008?
We know she at one time shared a house in Adelaide with her friend (for how long and when are unclear) and that she popped back to the Alice a few times, but where did she live when her daughter was an infant?
I can't imagine anyone willing living out of their car when housing options are so easily accessible, yet we have not heard about where she lived.

GM's?

 

[JaneSA]

Personally, I don't adhere to any particular theory.
I believe in examining all possibilities and considering all ideas with an open mind, and I won't judge the character and motivations of any person (victim or suspect) by media reports or past behaviours.

 

[JaneSA]

One thing that strikes me about the alleged injuries is how deeply personal these crimes were. Impersonal; shoot someone, more personal and angry, stab them; deeply personal and enraged, allegedly 'stomp someone to death'.

I'll be very surprised if the alleged murderer isn't male unless; of course, the injuries were from a vehicle.

Could it be a post mortem attempt to destroy identifying features?

 

[JaneSA]

GM's?

I can't find anything to confirm it.

 

[Trooper]

I don't "firmly adhere" to any particular theory.
I believe in examining all possibilities and considering all ideas with an open mind, and I won't judge the character and motivations of any person (victim or suspect) by media reports or past behaviours.

well... the only report of this $25,000 thingy was from the Advertiser, purporting to be from the ex-carer of Connie.. so in this instance, you did judge from the media, and judged this person to be the sole and wholy singular possessor of the truth regarding Karlie's life pre her murder. An odd position, since even in that report in the media, no other proof, or confirmation was offered . At all. Yet, for some reason, this one person's (anon, for websleuth's reasons) statement is taken as gospel, all other ideas are disparaged and endlessly argued with... what is the magic of this one person's statement that all this effort and tremendous embroidery has been attached to it?

 

[JaneSA]

Didn't police say the other day that they were trying to establish where she lived between those years. I will find the link.

 

[Trooper]

One thing that strikes me about the alleged injuries is how deeply personal these crimes were. Impersonal; shoot someone, more personal and angry, stab them; deeply personal and enraged, allegedly 'stomp someone to death'.

I'll be very surprised if the alleged murderer isn't male unless; of course, the injuries were from a vehicle.

It wasn't strictly business, and I think that is what the police have been at some pains to convey.. the brutality and violence attached to both murders, and with the added extra twist that this pitch of rage and fury was produced twice , at two different times, on two different people ( Karlie and Khandlyce) and , it has to be considered, for two entirely different reasons..

It is hard to imagine that the same reason arrived at for killing Karlie was the same reason that provoked the murder of Khandalyce.

so was it the same person who murdered both of them? I am undecided. Certainly, I do believe the murders were done with a great deal of consultation and co-operation, if two people are involved.

 

[Bohemian]

Could it be a post mortem attempt to destroy identifying features?

No idea. Studied Forensic Biology not Anthropology. I think that analysis would need a high level of expertise. The injuries were reported as being on Karlie's rib bones, IIRC.

 

[Wolfinator]

While all these leads and motives are possible and worthy of discussion. ....

My money is still on a violent unhinged drugged up psycho operating in a community of sub humans that are still yet to emerge from the primordial ooze and who feed and breed off the welfare state.


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[crabstick]

<modsnip> The fact the death was barbaric could be psycho <modsnip> or revenge, send a message.

No idea. Studied Forensic Biology not Anthropology. I think that analysis would need a high level of expertise. The injuries were reported as being on Karlie's rib bones, IIRC.

Could it be a post mortem attempt to destroy identifying features?

One thing that strikes me about the alleged injuries is how deeply personal these crimes were. Impersonal; shoot someone, more personal and angry, stab them; deeply personal and enraged, allegedly 'stomp someone to death'.

I'll be very surprised if the alleged murderer isn't male unless; of course, the injuries were from a vehicle.

BBM

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[JaneSA]

LOL Wolfinator -what a way with words you have

 

[Wolfinator]

It is hard to imagine that the same reason arrived at for killing Karlie was the same reason that provoked the murder of Khandalyce. .

Unless the killing of Karlie was directly tied to Kandalyce. Forget the drug debt/bounty red herring and go back to following the real money.

Horrible to say it but :

1 how much is a trafficked blonde 2 year old girl worth? Add a lot of zeros.

2 Karlie was also worth at least $90k that we know of!



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[Bohemian]

It wasn't strictly business, and I think that is what the police have been at some pains to convey.. the brutality and violence attached to both murders, and with the added extra twist that this pitch of rage and fury was produced twice , at two different times, on two different people ( Karlie and Khandlyce) and , it has to be considered, for two entirely different reasons..

It is hard to imagine that the same reason arrived at for killing Karlie was the same reason that provoked the murder of Khandalyce.

so was it the same person who murdered both of them? I am undecided. Certainly, I do believe the murders were done with a great deal of consultation and co-operation, if two people are involved.

No not strictly business and police have said equally violent but different injuries found. Also, possibly (probably?) two different locations, ie; AFAIK they believe Karlie was allegedly murdered in Belanglo State Forest due to DJH's mobile 'pings' on or about 14 or 15/12/2008. As for Khandalyce, possibly a month after her mother, no known location.

My thoughts exactly which leads me to another person in the case of poor little Khandalyce and, yes, that would require consultation/co-operation.

Or, of course; same person, different motive, state of mind and circumstances.

 

[Bohemian]

I can't find anything to confirm it.

Karlie's Centrelink mail was going there. Also vaguely remember MSM article mentioning Karlie had lived with her GM in Alice for a while. I can't recall dates being mentioned; before or after Khandalyce was born. I think it was the story where netball and her being a 'firecracker' were mentioned or certainly around that time.

 

[Bohemian]

Didn't police say the other day that they were trying to establish where she lived between those years. I will find the link.

They did. Between 2006-08.

 

[Bohemian]

While all these leads and motives are possible and worthy of discussion. ....

My money is still on a violent unhinged drugged up psycho operating in a community of sub humans that are still yet to emerge from the primordial ooze and who feed and breed off the welfare state.


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Yup, I'll pay that.

 

[JaneSA]

Karlie's Centrelink mail was going there. Also vaguely remember MSM article mentioning Karlie had lived with her GM in Alice for a while. I can't recall dates being mentioned; before or after Khandalyce was born. I think it was the story where netball and her being a 'firecracker' were mentioned or certainly around that time.

From memory, MSM said she was sent to live with GM as a teen.
Pretty sure they used the term "sent to live with" which I thought at the time was odd.