AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce, Wynarka, Bones of a Child Discovered, July'15 - #2

[JLZ]

Do police get territorial about their own jurisdiction's crimes? I don't mean to be offensive, just wondering.

 

[sleuthin-suz]

the time its taking for the results of the forensic testing is driving me bonkers

 

[Deleted member 102539]

The thing that gets my back up most at the moment is Police saying they are currently solely focused on South Australia. I don't get this! In a country like Australia we can drive from one end of the country to the other in 24 hours. Not to mention the possibility of overseas travel. It just doesn't make sense unless the cops are onto something already or trying to deter media focus to assist in catching perpetrators. What makes them so damn sure its an SA case??

I think forensic is able to clear up from what/where the dirt on all clothes originates (soil, sand etc.). These people are sometimes artists in their field.

Maybe when there are results we will see also a phantom pic of the suitcase man?

 

[sleuthin-suz]

FYI - for those that dont know as yet there is a FB page dedicated to the child. Just type in:

Child Found Karoonda Highway, SA

cheers

 

[sleuthin-suz]

http://www.todaytonightadelaide.com.au/stories/unknown-child

 

[Amee]

The thing that gets my back up most at the moment is Police saying they are currently solely focused on South Australia. I don't get this! In a country like Australia we can drive from one end of the country to the other in 24 hours. Not to mention the possibility of overseas travel. It just doesn't make sense unless the cops are onto something already or trying to deter media focus to assist in catching perpetrators. What makes them so damn sure its an SA case??

SAPOL

“At this time our inquiries will focus on where the evidence leads us in this investigation and at this point that primary focus remains within Australia.”
What police know about the child:

https://www.facebook.com/sapolicenews?fref=ts

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-pol...response-regarding-wynarka-child#.Vbc2PrVLOY4


When asked about whether the girl could be Western Australian child Lella McDougall, who went missing with her mother Chantelle in 2007, Commissioner Stevens said investigators were focused on South Australia.

"But we would be considering any missing child in terms of the match with what we have in the Riverland," he said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/suit...police-say-20150727-gilgz6.html#ixzz3hAg5kIj6

 

[fruity]

I think the clothes are random purchases, possibly from op shops. There is no rhyme or reason to the items shown, just as you mention. I wonder if the clothes are there solely to disguise the body? As for the quilt, I wonder if it was an op shop purchase, too? I often see crotchet blankets and hand made baby/cot quilts at our local op shops.


The Baby 2000 shorts look like they are boys shorts, too.

I totally agree with you re the clothes. I have thought all along that they could have been from op shops and posted about it early on. The quilt could definitely be too.

 

[scandinavian girl]

they found a complete skeleton didn´t they? so I am wondering about the skull, founder saw jawbone, but the rest is it possible to make a reconstruction? how long will that take and have any of LE said anything about that

 

[Deleted member 102539]

FYI - for those that dont know as yet there is a FB page dedicated to the child. Just type in:

Child Found Karoonda Highway, SA

cheers

Please look at that!!

The pics of the clothing partly are seen much more clear. There is a long shirt (night dress?) pink with white stripes, that I haven't seen before ("dymples"). The men boxer shorts looks different to that what I've seen before (no Holden radiator grill?).

 

[ninjabynight]

I know it's been mentioned earlier in the thread, but I can't understand the relevance of the bloke with the suitcase in the area 6-8 weeks ago if people had seen the suitcase on the side of the road where it was found as far back as March which was more than 12 weeks ago. If these sightings are related, then someone has their dates mixed up. IMO

I believe I read that he was seen on two dates both with and without the suitcase. The sighting with suitcase could fit with a scenario in which he has returned to the scene in a bid to increase the chances of the suitcase being found. Perhaps he intended to move the suitcase significantly, into the town, but decided to return to the original dump site instead. If he did indeed return to Wynarka on yet another ocassion - to the town rather than to the roadside - the question becomes even more urgent: what is his link to the town? Was he looking for something or checking on something apart from the suitcase? The mind boggles.

Edit: just to clarify, I read he was seen both with and without a suitcase, and that he was seen on two different dates, but not that he was seen on one date with the case and on the other day without. I'm making an assumption there.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

they found a complete skeleton didn´t they? so I am wondering about the skull, founder saw jawbone, but the rest is it possible to make a reconstruction? how long will that take and have any of LE said anything about that

Good idea! Maybe they (police) are producing/creating a reconstruction to show to the public.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

"The reconstructing of a human face is painstaking and can take many weeks and even months to get right and even then there is a chance that the victim's face - as modelled in clay by the anthropologist - may never be recognised.
A lot rests on the memories of the general public and also their willingness to come forward especially in relation to crimes that are many years old."


http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/reconstructing-a-face.html

 

[catswhiskers]

Please look at that!!

The pics of the clothing partly are seen much more clear. There is a long shirt (night dress?) pink with white stripes, that I haven't seen before ("Dimples"). The men boxer shorts looks different to that what I've seen before (no Holden radiator grill?).

This is the first time I've seen a full length pic of the pink striped 'dymples' dress, plus there appears to be a couple of other different shots there too. It's a shame they are not very good photos though - they all seem distorted and elongated, probably to fit them into whatever collage making app was used to present the images on that page.

If anyone has a link to clearer individual pics it would be great.

Also re the Dora shirt - search for Dora items on ebay and you will see just how many different images are used - the lettering comes in all sorts of different colours, and Dora herself can be wearing a swimsuit, tutu, all sorts of dresses, shorts - just about every type of clothing you can imagine a cartoon character wearing. I'm just mentioning this because a few people have commented over the past days about the lettering/colours/clothing used in the Dora image as not being quite right - there are so many variations around, I don't think it really matters too much.
I spent a long time (have been off work sick and with too much time on my hands lately) scanning through just ebay listings alone, and never found one item even remotely similar to that found near the suitcase - not the pattern or the garment style even. That's probably just an indicator of the found item's age if nothing else. Also, I only found one item out of many hundreds that had that style of sleeve - pretty much every other top, dress, or pyjama shirt had either little cap style or ruffled sleeves, or long sleeves. Again, that could just be because those plain t-shirt style sleeves for little girls are out of fashion.

 

[catswhiskers]

"The reconstructing of a human face is painstaking and can take many weeks and even months to get right and even then there is a chance that the victim's face - as modelled in clay by the anthropologist - may never be recognised.
A lot rests on the memories of the general public and also their willingness to come forward especially in relation to crimes that are many years old."


http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/reconstructing-a-face.html

I'd imagine that there would have to be 3D imaging software available these days that could enable scientists to scan a skull in particular, and then produce a likeness of the victim? Having said that, I've always been impressed when I've seen documentaries about scientists/artists who specialise in creating clay reconstructions - have we ever seen them used here in Australia?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think we have. I do remember seeing a couple ?

I'd imagine that there would have to be 3D imaging software available these days that could enable scientists to scan a skull in particular, and then produce a likeness of the victim? Having said that, I've always been impressed when I've seen documentaries about scientists/artists who specialise in creating clay reconstructions - have we ever seen them used here in Australia?

 

[Angeline]

Just a thought. If those types of quilts are made for mums in crisis/shelters etc it's not unfeasible that the clothes were purchased from an op shop/charity shop. Actually, I think Centrelink give referrals to those shops for assistance like food vouchers. Maybe clothes?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Yes this is one I remember. Not solved as far as I know

Oh sorry this is computer imaging not a reconstruction.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-she-belanglo-girls-skull-reconstructed-20111202-1oa1x.html

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=...d=0CJACEK0DME5qFQoTCNbE95rF_cYCFUQKLAodNBUC5g

It took forensic artist Christi Andrews less than four hours to bring the face of “Baby Doe” to life in an image that has touched millions.

She started from scratch, studying autopsy information and morgue photos of the unidentified remains of the little girl, found in a trash bag along the rocky shoreline of Boston harbor. Andrews worked on Adobe Photoshop to recreate the toddler’s big brown eyes, chubby cheeks, hair reaching just below the shoulders, her earrings. Such composites generally take about a day to produce.

“If she looked like this in life, I think we can all agree she’s precious and she really deserves the dignity of a funeral and a burial and in her own name,” Suffolk County District Attorney Dan Conley told CNN on Thursday.



Attention please: NOT our little girl!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I imagine it's more difficult when you only have a skeleton to work with.

 

[kiwi50]

I wonder if they are basing the date of death on the age of the clothing.
If the clothes are just a red herring, the dates could be years out.
Likewise I'm not entirely convinced that it is actually a girl, hope they aren't just basing that on the fact that the clothes are female.