AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce, Wynarka, Bones of a Child Discovered, July'15 - #4

[Deleted member 102539]

What that means is that people have called police with concerns about children they may not have seen for some time. These children (69 of them to date) have been located and are not little Angel.

Too many children in disorderly living conditions, OMG. And probably only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[lampshade1]

That's interesting that an application/approval for the development of a shearing shed was dated 3/2/15.

The project for a garage is another curious one (that's actually the one I found conflicting dates for the application).

Lampshade1 if you could find a map of the subdivision of the immediate township of Wynarka listing all lot numbers and sections especially including section 15 ...well...we'd be lifelong friends xx

I'm not seeing the conflicting dates?

Section 15 for the application dated 3/2/15 is shown highlighted on the attached image. It is approximately 24km north east of Wynarka.



Section 98 is also part of the property (although a separate lot) for which the DA we are discussing was lodged for.



I will post some more images shortly for the general subdivision layout.

 

[DutchTreat]

I'm not seeing the conflicting dates?

Section 15 for the application dated 3/2/15 is shown highlighted on the attached image. It is approximately 24km north east of Wynarka.

View attachment 79842

Section 98 is also part of the property (although a separate lot) for which the DA we are discussing was lodged for.

View attachment 79844

I will post some more images shortly for the general subdivision layout.

If you look at google maps, you see the lot's of properties in Wynarka. Or is that not what you mean.

Where did you find the shearing shed stuff?
Do you have a link for me?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Would people tell you what projects they were working on? Like 'I'm doing an aphabet hexagon quilt, with these fabrics' etc? Or show you pictures of what they had made?

The shop wasn't specialized on quilting material and quilters but on fabrics in generell. When the customers were personally known then of course always little talks took place. Btw: I had many customers from the Netherlands - always up to date!
No, I didn't saw pictures of quilts. Quilts and pattern and material for making quilts I saw/will see tomorrow in my extended family.

 

[lampshade1]

Lampshade1 if you could find a map of the subdivision of the immediate township of Wynarka listing all lot numbers and sections especially including section 15 ...well...we'd be lifelong friends xx

SA seems to have an online mapping system (as do most Australian states). The SA one is clunky and extremely slow although seems to work. It does say it is only 'open' from 8am to 8pm (SA time) so not sure if it will work outside of those hours or not - it seems too though.

http://maps.sa.gov.au/plb/ - The layers button has useful stuff you can turn on/off etc.

The aerial imagery on this site is a lot better than that of Google maps also.

Pictures below:

Wynarka lot numbers

There seems to be a lot of vacant lots to the south legally subdivided given the size of the town (or lack thereof).

Survey plan numbers


Street numbers - seems incomplete/Council records are probably poor/non existent


Websleuths is lowering the quality of the images. I can upload to an external image site later if of use, or you can use the link above to see the same stuff etc.

I hadn't really looked at aerial imagery of the town previously - it puts it in perspective as to just how small the place really is.

 

[Puggle]

I'm not seeing the conflicting dates?

Section 15 for the application dated 3/2/15 is shown highlighted on the attached image. It is approximately 24km north east of Wynarka.

View attachment 79842

Section 98 is also part of the property (although a separate lot) for which the DA we are discussing was lodged for.

View attachment 79844

I will post some more images shortly for the general subdivision layout.

Thank you again so much !!! I identified the town as being Perponda ... but there is no way I would have been able to locate these maps .... I owe you quite a few coffees. x

 

[Puggle]

SA seems to have an online mapping system (as do most Australian states). The SA one is clunky and extremely slow although seems to work. It does say it is only 'open' from 8am to 8pm (SA time) so not sure if it will work outside of those hours or not - it seems too though.

http://maps.sa.gov.au/plb/ - The layers button has useful stuff you can turn on/off etc.

The aerial imagery on this site is a lot better than that of Google maps also.

Pictures below:

Wynarka lot numbers
View attachment 79845
There seems to be a lot of vacant lots to the south legally subdivided given the size of the town (or lack thereof).

Survey plan numbers
View attachment 79846

Street numbers - seems incomplete/Council records are probably poor/non existent
View attachment 79847

Websleuths is lowering the quality of the images. I can upload to an external image site later if of use, or you can use the link above to see the same stuff etc.

I hadn't really looked at aerial imagery of the town previously - it puts it in perspective as to just how small the place really is.

I am so glad you found that site and shared the link to it. I was very curious about property location for reason's related to this case, but this (site you found) will be another invaluable tool we can add to our tool boxes!!! thanks again.

 

[Makara]

Thank you again so much !!! I identified the town as being Perponda ... but there is no way I would have been able to locate these maps .... I owe you quite a few coffees. x

What exactly are you looking for with all of these maps etc.? There have been a lot of posts in regard to this and I don't think anyone knows what you leading up to.

 

[musicaljoke]

Wingfield Dump is an enormous industrial dump. I doubt that anyone would be allowed in to rifle through the rubbish. And it is completely the other side of the city.

But the clothes could have been taken from the bin before it hit the dump. But that's a scary thought ... probably didn't happen.

 

[lampshade1]

Thank you again so much !!! I identified the town as being Perponda ... but there is no way I would have been able to locate these maps .... I owe you quite a few coffees. x

No worries. I'm not sure it is of much use though - would perhaps be more interesting if the shearing shed was being replaced (it may have been, the brief description doesn't really tell us). I would presume though that this is simply just a new shed altogether.

If you look at google maps, you see the lot's of properties in Wynarka. Or is that not what you mean.

Where did you find the shearing shed stuff?
Do you have a link for me?

Google generally shows street numbers. I suspect they are showing lots here as Wynarka doesn't seem to have a compressive street numbering system (like most towns do).

A shearing shed was a development recently approved in the area: see http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Discovered-July-15-4&p=11993641#post11993641

It may be of no interest/significance.

 

[DutchTreat]

The shop wasn't specialized on quilting material and quilters but on fabrics in generell. When the customers were personally known then of course always little talks took place. Btw: I had many customers from the Netherlands - always up to date!
No, I didn't saw pictures of quilts. Quilts and pattern and material for making quilts I saw/will see tomorrow in my extended family.

Thanks. I didn't really mean if you might recognize that quilt in any way (but I am curious what your family thinks about the quilt).

But more in general. If a person working in the shop where material could have been bought for the Wynarka quilt, might be familiar with the quilting projects people were working on when they purchased material for quilting.

 

[Puggle]

If you look at google maps, you see the lot's of properties in Wynarka. Or is that not what you mean.

Where did you find the shearing shed stuff?
Do you have a link for me?

Lampshade found the link for the shearing shed - it's written as being the Project on the PDF she supplied (few pages back)

 

[DutchTreat]

No worries. I'm not sure it is of much use though - would perhaps be more interesting if the shearing shed was being replaced (it may have been, the brief description doesn't really tell us). I would presume though that this is simply just a new shed altogether.



Google generally shows street numbers. I suspect they are showing lots here as Wynarka doesn't seem to have a compressive street numbering system (like most towns do).

A shearing shed was a development recently approved in the area: see http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Discovered-July-15-4&p=11993641#post11993641

It may be of no interest/significance.

It's probably me, but I can't find the shearing shed :gaah:
The only application I can find in Wynarka is for a garage, application date 27/05/2015.

 

[DutchTreat]

Lampshade found the link for the shearing shed - it's written as being the Project on the PDF she supplied (few pages back)

:dunno::thinking::waitasec:

 

[Puggle]

What exactly are you looking for with all of these maps etc.? There have been a lot of posts in regard to this and I don't think anyone knows what you leading up to.

I was trying to see if there had been any construction/extensions/additions to any properties within the Wynarka area to account for the possibility that someone had unearthed the remains (for a reason - such as those ones) and had to therefore relocate the remains. The police have suggested strongly they believe the child has lived/grew up there at some time in the past and may also have returned at some point in time.

I asked for help to see if anyone could locate the information about Building/reno/ect applications around the start of the year. Time frame just before little angels remains were dumped.

Lampshade was able to find a link to the council PDF files which shows all "Public" applications that were put to council.

There was 2 that I was interested in ...

The maps that Lampshade has posted is of one application approved for someone to commence building a shearing shed.

I was just curious if this could be a lead to look at.

 

[lampshade1]

It's probably me, but I can't find the shearing shed :gaah:
The only application I can find in Wynarka is for a garage, application date 27/05/2015.

Have a look at the 2014 pdf for mention of the shed. The application was submitted in 2014 although not approved until Feb 2015. While the mailing address is in Wynarka, the shed is actually 25kms from Wynarka. Again, not really sure if of any use/relevance etc.

Lampshade was able to find a link to the council PDF files which shows all "Public" applications that were put to council.

Personally if I wanted to build a shed on a large rural property and lived in that Council area, I would just do it. I can't see too many people in large rural Councils being too concerned about getting Council approval etc. The odds of getting caught without approval are low, especially if you aren't intending to sell within a few years. So for every DA that was lodged correctly and approval obtained, there is almost certainly a lot more works that have been undertaken illegally without approval/consent.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Nevermind, worked it out

 

[Puggle]

:dunno::thinking::waitasec:

sorry it was ages back ...page 6 post #76

two links to council applications - One link is 4 pages and the other is about 6 pages. If you scroll your pointer on the page near the bottom a box will come up that will help you scroll through the pages ...hope I made sense lol..

 

[they'll get you]

The shop wasn't specialized on quilting material and quilters but on fabrics in generell. When the customers were personally known then of course always little talks took place. Btw: I had many customers from the Netherlands - always up to date!
No, I didn't saw pictures of quilts. Quilts and pattern and material for making quilts I saw/will see tomorrow in my extended family.

I too worked in a sewing machine shop in the 90's for 8 years which sold haberdashery & fabrics.
The classes were held in the shop and the customers would buy everything to do with the project there.
Quilting classes were very popular and classes had up to 20 students all in a small shop. Some came with like minded friends but by the end, everyone were friends ready to enrol in the next class with their wallets open.

Maybe the quilt was made in a class like this and someone remembers....Everyone was involved in each other's progress, helping each other and chatting over their own machines.

It was a lucrative venture on my boss's part and now almost every sewing/fabric/machine shop hold classes for the extra income.

 

[Puggle]

I didn't see the news .... but from reading back.. Is all that they said was a lady from a now closed quilt shop recognised some of the fabric???

Was the shop in Karoonda or Murray Bridge ???

sorry for asking lol.. probably old news already..