Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

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7news.com.au

Devastating update in search for mum who vanished two months ago

Her car was found ‘not in good condition’ on a remote property before cops made a tragic discovery less than 1km away.
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Detective Chief Inspector Garry Watts said Spies’ Toyota Hilux had been found — “not hidden but it didn’t stand out” — 2km into a private property about 40km northeast of Surat on Thursday afternoon.

“You had to go through gates to get into that property,” he said.

Watts said the landowner believes the car had not been there longer than 12 days but investigations are ongoing.

The pink shirt Tayla was last seen wearing in CCTV footage has been found inside the vehicle, Watts said.

“At 3pm, we received a breakthrough, we came across the Toyota on Yuleba Surat Road,” Watts said.

“The landowner where the Toyota was found said the vehicle had been on the property.

“Police attended the address and confirmed that it was Tayla’s vehicle.

“The vehicle was not in good condition, it was locked.

“We haven’t entered it yet as it is being towed back to Roma for investigation by crime experts.”
 
On someone’s property and the body a km from the car. Property owner doesn’t think the car has been there the entire time. Pink shirt was in the car and not being worn. It’s either self inflicted or suspicious, but these comments by the police and property owner lean strongly towards suspicious. imo

- the remains were found about one kilometre from her ute, which was found yesterday afternoon on a property off Yuleba-Surat Road in Noorindoo, about 40km north-east of Surat.

- The landowner doesn't believe it's been there longer than 12 days

- the car was found about two kilometres into the Noorindoo property

- You would not have seen this vehicle from the road

- A number of her belongings, including the pink shirt she was wearing on the day she disappeared, were visible inside.

- the belongings could be seen from outside the car, which did not seem to be in disarray.

www.9news.com.au

Human remains found in search for missing Queensland mum Tayla Spies

www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
 
Rocket333 said:
On someone’s property and the body a km from the car. Property owner doesn’t think the car has been there the entire time. Pink shirt was in the car and not being worn. It’s either self inflicted or suspicious, but these comments by the police and property owner lean strongly towards suspicious. imo

- the remains were found about one kilometre from her ute, which was found yesterday afternoon on a property off Yuleba-Surat Road in Noorindoo, about 40km north-east of Surat.

- The landowner doesn't believe it's been there longer than 12 days

- the car was found about two kilometres into the Noorindoo property

- You would not have seen this vehicle from the road

- A number of her belongings, including the pink shirt she was wearing on the day she disappeared, were visible inside.

- the belongings could be seen from outside the car, which did not seem to be in disarray.

www.9news.com.au

Human remains found in search for missing Queensland mum Tayla Spies

www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
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From that police pic of it, it definitely would have been seen from the air. Either the cops didn't look properly, or it turned up after they looked... 🧐

It would really simplify this case a lot if they simply just didn't look properly lol
 
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chief quimby said:
From that police pic of it, it definitely would have been seen from the air. Either the cops didn't look properly, or it turned up after they looked... 🧐

It would really simplify this case a lot if they simply just didn't look properly lol
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yeah totally agree.

That car was planted for sure. A drone would have picked that up regardless if there was no access to property. The family kept saying that all areas where searched and that property is in the same area
 
The car doesn't look to be in "not good condition", to me???

7news.com.au

Devastating update in search for mum who vanished two months ago

Her car was found ‘not in good condition’ on a remote property before cops made a tragic discovery less than 1km away.
7news.com.au 7news.com.au


2 conflicting news articles as usual in these cases :rolleyes:

www.abc.net.au

Police find human remains close to Tayla Spies's car

Police have discovered unidentified remains near where missing Queensland woman Tayla Spies's vehicle was found on Thursday.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

The car, about 2km into the property off the Yuleba-Surat road, which backs onto the Yuleba State Forrest, was locked but the interior was not in "disarray".


"Police are now reviewing footage from a previous aerial search of the area to determine how long the car might have been there."
 

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mishy66 said:
7news.com.au

Devastating update in search for mum who vanished two months ago

Her car was found ‘not in good condition’ on a remote property before cops made a tragic discovery less than 1km away.
7news.com.au 7news.com.au

Detective Chief Inspector Garry Watts said Spies’ Toyota Hilux had been found — “not hidden but it didn’t stand out” — 2km into a private property about 40km northeast of Surat on Thursday afternoon.

“You had to go through gates to get into that property,” he said.

Watts said the landowner believes the car had not been there longer than 12 days but investigations are ongoing.

The pink shirt Tayla was last seen wearing in CCTV footage has been found inside the vehicle, Watts said.

“At 3pm, we received a breakthrough, we came across the Toyota on Yuleba Surat Road,” Watts said.

“The landowner where the Toyota was found said the vehicle had been on the property.

“Police attended the address and confirmed that it was Tayla’s vehicle.

“The vehicle was not in good condition, it was locked.

“We haven’t entered it yet as it is being towed back to Roma for investigation by crime experts.”
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The vehicle was not in good condition - what does that mean exactly? The picture in the below article -while not good quality- doesn't appear to show any panel damage, not covered in dirt, no parts missing, no attempts to set fire to it, hide it etc. Do they mean the inside appearance? They state it does not appear to be in disarray. Police have not entered it yet.

Rocket333 said:
On someone’s property and the body a km from the car. Property owner doesn’t think the car has been there the entire time. Pink shirt was in the car and not being worn. It’s either self inflicted or suspicious, but these comments by the police and property owner lean strongly towards suspicious. imo

- the remains were found about one kilometre from her ute, which was found yesterday afternoon on a property off Yuleba-Surat Road in Noorindoo, about 40km north-east of Surat.

- The landowner doesn't believe it's been there longer than 12 days

- the car was found about two kilometres into the Noorindoo property

- You would not have seen this vehicle from the road

- A number of her belongings, including the pink shirt she was wearing on the day she disappeared, were visible inside.

- the belongings could be seen from outside the car, which did not seem to be in disarray.

www.9news.com.au

Human remains found in search for missing Queensland mum Tayla Spies

www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
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It will be really interesting to work out how far the car traveled from the last sighting, and whether it adds up. It doesn't appear to be on any form of path or roadway, just a clearing amongst the trees. It's also unclear whether the car could continue in the direction it's facing or the trees get too thick. Interestingly, it was locked.

I'm hoping the car and her remains give all the answers required to give her family the complete picture of what happened, enough to prosecute any and all parties involved (if the case) and allow her family to grieve.
 
mishy66 said:
The car doesn't look to be in "not good condition", to me???

7news.com.au

Devastating update in search for mum who vanished two months ago

Her car was found ‘not in good condition’ on a remote property before cops made a tragic discovery less than 1km away.
7news.com.au 7news.com.au


2 conflicting news articles as usual in these cases :rolleyes:

www.abc.net.au

Police find human remains close to Tayla Spies's car

Police have discovered unidentified remains near where missing Queensland woman Tayla Spies's vehicle was found on Thursday.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

The car, about 2km into the property off the Yuleba-Surat road, which backs onto the Yuleba State Forrest, was locked but the interior was not in "disarray".


"Police are now reviewing footage from a previous aerial search of the area to determine how long the car might have been there."
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I don't get what you are saying about conflicting reporting. Nothing conflicting here. The interior can be 'not in disarray,' and the outside can still be in poor condition. We don't know what the police mean. The vehicle may just have been dirty from the roads and rains.
 
BreakingNews said:
I don't get what you are saying about conflicting reporting. Nothing conflicting here. The interior can be 'not in disarray,' and the outside can still be in poor condition. We don't know what the police mean. The vehicle may just have been dirty from the roads and rains.
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Im not saying that .

One news report says the car was in found in "not good condition"

Another news article shows the car in an image and looks to be in ok condition

Just an observation here.

Journalists dont always report accuracies - kind of like WS where people speculate ;)
 
I'm beginning to wonder... has Taylas body been there all along and they had her car hidden and just put it there recently and that explains why it suddenly appeared, but her body is 1km from it?

Weird. If the car was there all along and cops and cocky simply didn't see it, it could be she just sadly took her own life, or it could be some kind of sick murder plan to walk her 1km from her car.

But to literally bring the car back, lock it and put a body 1km from it there in the last 12 days is impossible. It would have had to be carrying a body in the dead of night or covered on a car trailer because people will be looking for it on the road and the traffic on the condy road is 3 fold since her dissaparence. ... wouldn't it have just been easier to just set fire to it and get rid of the evidence?? It just couldn't happen in my honest opinion... 🤔 what is everyone else thinking?? Really strange case...
 
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chief quimby said:
But to literally bring the car back, lock it and put a body 1km from it there in the last 12 days is impossible. It would have had to be carrying a body in the dead of night or covered on a car trailer because people will be looking for it on the road and the traffic on the condy road is 3 fold since her dissaparence. ... wouldn't it have just been easier to just set fire to it and get rid of the evidence?? It just couldn't happen in my honest opinion... 🤔 what is everyone else thinking?? Really strange case...
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Assuming that this wasn’t self inflicted, I’m wondering if this has been staged to appear self inflicted.

It will be interesting to eventually learn about what was with the body and the cause of death. I’m hoping it wasn’t a case of the poor soul running for their life and being chased or hunted down (due to the location of the body and the distance from the car).

The car wasn’t burnt out, which surprised me as it’s a common way to attempt to eradicate evidence of other parties being involved. It was locked, maybe by itself but probably by a person.

If the car was planted there during the past fortnight, why was it not just abandoned in the forest rather than on someone’s property? The location is interesting. Was it intentional due to possibly being known as a vacant property (no one there), or was it a ploy to implicate the property owner?

The property owner said the car wasn’t there 12 days ago and they are probably right. The property owner will now be under pressure to provide a timeline of their whereabouts and activity, and an alibi. They wouldn’t choose this for themself surely.

Tayla’s final phone ping was in that area. It’s quite likely that her phone was charging in the car as she drove. It’s also quite possible that the phone had a lot of battery left, so unless turned off or destroyed it should have kept pinging. It didn’t and if this was self inflicted the phone should be with her or in her car. I bet that phone is badly damaged or missing.

The pink shirt is in the car. Tayla definitely took it off. But why and when?

Whether the big bag is still in the car and what’s in it could be of interest to.

Did she swing by Surat to change, or to buy something, or to meet someone?

I suspect that the body has been there the whole time. I doubt the car has though. I think that arrived recently. Maybe to aid recovery of the body due to remorse or fear or media pressure. Maybe just to be rid of it and the stress of hiding it.

Something critical has happened north of Surat on the drive home. A big missing piece of the puzzle is TN’s knowledge of that day.
 
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chief quimby said:
I'm beginning to wonder... has Taylas body been there all along and they had her car hidden and just put it there recently and that explains why it suddenly appeared, but her body is 1km from it?

Weird. If the car was there all along and cops and cocky simply didn't see it, it could be she just sadly took her own life, or it could be some kind of sick murder plan to walk her 1km from her car.

But to literally bring the car back, lock it and put a body 1km from it there in the last 12 days is impossible. It would have had to be carrying a body in the dead of night or covered on a car trailer because people will be looking for it on the road and the traffic on the condy road is 3 fold since her dissaparence. ... wouldn't it have just been easier to just set fire to it and get rid of the evidence?? It just couldn't happen in my honest opinion... 🤔 what is everyone else thinking?? Really strange case...
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Why would that make sense - to bring her car to her body? A body in that landscape is far harder to find visually, in your day to day business, than an unobscured Hilux. It's a bit like putting a giant arrow pointing to her body. We don't yet know what state her body was found in, and an estimated time of death. It seems the Hilux has been there no more than about 12 days, assuming someone has been in that part of the property then and the car wasn't there. Maybe she has been there all along, or maybe they were both dumped there (if foul play) just recently. The best case scenario is that it was a tragic accidental/natural death, and she got disoriented, had a medical episode, a bad trip etc and had been wandering around until she died, or driving around (far less likely) and left the car there recently.

I'm not buying that though. My money is on foul play, but why? Possible reasons are endless: she knew too much about a situation, she had the power to get someone into trouble, she was causing "trouble" for someone (I'm thinking along the lines of her recent court appearances), there was a drug deal gone wrong, she was in with a dangerous crowd, she did something illegal/immoral/just something that pissed someone off, an argument broke out and someone got physical, she was accidently hit and killed on the side of the road and it was covered up, she picked up a hitch hiker and it all went downhill, I could go on. Feel free to throw out your theories.

Hopefully as details come to light, things start to actually make sense, for her family and some form of closure. I think there may be elements that never get expanded on though, so we -the public- may never find out the whole situation.
 
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Pictures of her truck where it was found don't show the driver's side or front. It’s possible there's damage we can't see.

Perhaps she hit an animal (it's been long enough for scavengers and weather to remove an animal's body). That doesn't explain why her truck is 2km into private property. I suppose she could have injured herself and became disoriented. I hit a deer, but my small car was still drivable. My son hit a deer and totaled our SUV. So it's possible her truck was still drivable.

Perhaps she drove off the road, by swerving to miss an animal or because she was distracted, and did some front-end damage but it was still drivable once she got back on the road. Swerving or going into a ditch doesn't necessarily mean the inside would be in disarray. If she had a minor accident like that, she might have hit her head and become disoriented, then turned down a private road because she was lost or looking for help (airbags don't always deploy in minor accidents).

A more ominous possibility is someone forced her off the road by hitting her from the front or driver's side. If it was on purpose, they would then take her and her truck. If unintentional, but the person was under the influence or has a criminal record, they might have been afraid of being arrested, so they hid her and her truck (but in that scenario, she would either have died or have severe injuries that would prompt someone to hide her).

I wonder how long it will take police to share more details so we have a better understanding of what happened.
 
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