Found Deceased AUS - Tayla Spies,29, white 2017 dual cab Toyota Hilux I’d also missing. Left a hotel in Daley & travelled west to Surat, Queensland, 2 Feb 25

[chief quimby]

I think the meet up was with her partner and his friends 30k’s north of Surat, not in Surat itself.
I’m wondering if she deviated 9ks south to Surat solely to pop into a toilet or change room.

And it's not 9kms south, it would be 30km south, then 30km north to meet up on the road side... surely you'd just change on the road side, there's absolutely no cars out there... you can hear them coming for miles before they actually turn up ...

the more we think about it, the weirder it becomes...

 

[Rocket333]

And it's not 9kms south, it would be 30km south, then 30km north to meet up on the road side... surely you'd just change on the road side, there's absolutely no cars out there... you can hear them coming for miles before they actually turn up ...

the more we think about it, the weirder it becomes...

9 ks south of the Yuleba-Surat T-intersection with the Carnarvon Hwy. Turn left to Surat, turn right to Roma.
Many/most women will drive to the closest restroom rather than change or urinate on the side of the road, no matter the location.

 

[Rocket333]

Where did you hear about the meet up? What town, if any, is 30km North of Surat?

In the media and on this thread.

 

[Rocket333]

I have a few questions in relation to some of the news reports. No accusations just things that don’t make sense to myself.

ACA states Tayla met with friends at Surat. She then met with her boyfriend after the meeting with friends.

Tayla was seen leaving town, was her partner in the vicinity? I understand they wouldn’t show his car on camera, but in trips I’ve done seperate from my partner but together we generally stay close by. We stop together to have coffee. Try to stay in visual contact kind of thing, thru Sydney can be challenging but on roads like this it would be quite easy.

Which way did the partner go home if he was travelling with her in another car, was he in front or behind or a totally different route.

The friends she met, was there a reason she met with them and the partner seperate?

In the meet up after the friends, and the last time she was seen, which was by her partner and on camera leaving town. Was he still travelling and was he behind her or was he visiting friends also that he may know in the area.

The direction it says she travelled was away from Roma, but the phone ping puts her phone in a 30 k radius of the route she would have been travelling to Roma, so even tho she went a different way, it looks to be headed towards Roma. Which means Tayla and or her phone could have been in a different car?

Why the delay with contact to report Tayla Missing, it says she was going home to see her kids and family after a weekend away, she was last seen by her partner prior to the video of her leaving town. If he went straight home, why was there no reports made until the next day? Myself I would be frantic if I knew my partner was supposed to be home around a time and it was a big delay.

Why hasn’t the partner been in any media report about Tayla. I’ve seen her sister make pleas but the partner hasn’t made one appearance I don’t think but has posted things about her missing. I know they wouldn’t tell the community of any contacts or history, but all these unanswered questions leave me guessing.

Plus the fact, where is the car?

The partner posted about it on his social media page on 5 Feb.
The rest we don’t know, and some is touched on in this thread.

 

[chief quimby]

9 ks south of the Yuleba-Surat T-intersection with the Carnarvon Hwy. Turn left to Surat, turn right to Roma.
Many/most women will drive to the closest restroom rather than change or urinate on the side of the road, no matter the location.

Ohhhh ok I'm thinking more along the lines of she could have just driven straight to roma, totally missing the yuleba-surat road, saving her travelling 30km south, and just head 35km to the roma road turn-off and head to roma...

 

[HoneyBunOne]

9 ks south of the Yuleba-Surat T-intersection with the Carnarvon Hwy. Turn left to Surat, turn right to Roma.
Many/most women will drive to the closest restroom rather than change or urinate on the side of the road, no matter the location.

FWIW, I am female and have been known to change my top on the side of a country road that's far less remote than this area.(Changing from a sweaty, stained work shirt to something more suitable for a trip to town) Toileting though? Never, and I'd have to be totally busting to even consider it.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I have done my best to try and get up to speed on this case, but I do have a life and don't have the many hours needed to read everything about it. Having said that, there's some areas that appear to be very unclear regardless, and nobody appears to be coming forward to clarify them, and perhaps make the search a bit more pinpointed.

We have CCTV footage of her leaving the hotel, and refueling the car, both with times attached.

There's footage of her car driving at a later point, I believe in the opposite direction as would be expected? It can't be proven she was driving it.

There's talk of her meeting friends/her boyfriend's friends in/outside of Surat, then later her boyfriend on the side of the road? (As in not a town or building AFAIK) If this is true, why do we not have more of a timeline for this, or witness statements being quoted? Surely these friends could be pinpointed, I'm sure everyone knows of everyone else in these smaller towns and people talk. Why do we not know that she arrived at X's place/met at a coffee shop etc at say 11.50am, stayed for 10 minutes, then left in X direction? Wearing either the pink or white shirt?

Where exactly did she meet her boyfriend and why? Was it a planned stop, or did one have car trouble and call the other for help? Do phone records show this if it's the case? What time was she expected home? Had she made mention of visiting a friend elsewhere and telling her partner not to wait up? Why did he wait until the next morning to report her missing? Where were her kids that weekend and were they meant to be picked up on the Sunday sometime? If so, why did the babysitter not report her missing?

As for the change of clothes and the pic she sent her sister on Snapchat - why do we not know what time this was sent, and more information about the new clothing? Doesn't Snapchat also pinpoint a user's location? (I've never used it) Seems like it would be very helpful to the timeline of events on that day.

I can't help but feel this case has elements that are being purposely hidden from the public, because it may change people's perceptions. Much like Hannah Kyobashi & that Johnny guy from the UK who travelled to Spain and was murdered. (I can't recall his name ATM).

All MOO and apologies if some/all of these questions have been answered.

 

[mishy66]

@mishy66 has answered some of these over the past 5 pages of the thread. I don’t believe Tayla had any kids with her current bf (TN), and a previous partner (kids father?) is in prison.

No I didnt say anything about who the father is of her kids . Thats you saying that . Not me.

 

[mishy66]

She allegedly afterwards met her partner and his friends 30kms north of Surat.

Was it simply to find a loo and change into something cooler or smarter or a work shirt before continuing north to meet her partner and his friends?

so are you saying its confirmed it was the partners friends she met????

Because on an initial post on TN page, which many posts have now been removed, it was said in a comment.

Allegedly or confirmed by family ???

 

[Rocket333]

I have done my best to try and get up to speed on this case, but I do have a life and don't have the many hours needed to read everything about it. Having said that, there's some areas that appear to be very unclear regardless, and nobody appears to be coming forward to clarify them, and perhaps make the search a bit more pinpointed.

We have CCTV footage of her leaving the hotel, and refueling the car, both with times attached.

There's footage of her car driving at a later point, I believe in the opposite direction as would be expected? It can't be proven she was driving it.

There's talk of her meeting friends/her boyfriend's friends in/outside of Surat, then later her boyfriend on the side of the road? (As in not a town or building AFAIK) If this is true, why do we not have more of a timeline for this, or witness statements being quoted? Surely these friends could be pinpointed, I'm sure everyone knows of everyone else in these smaller towns and people talk. Why do we not know that she arrived at X's place/met at a coffee shop etc at say 11.50am, stayed for 10 minutes, then left in X direction? Wearing either the pink or white shirt?

Where exactly did she meet her boyfriend and why? Was it a planned stop, or did one have car trouble and call the other for help? Do phone records show this if it's the case? What time was she expected home? Had she made mention of visiting a friend elsewhere and telling her partner not to wait up? Why did he wait until the next morning to report her missing? Where were her kids that weekend and were they meant to be picked up on the Sunday sometime? If so, why did the babysitter not report her missing?

As for the change of clothes and the pic she sent her sister on Snapchat - why do we not know what time this was sent, and more information about the new clothing? Doesn't Snapchat also pinpoint a user's location? (I've never used it) Seems like it would be very helpful to the timeline of events on that day.

I can't help but feel this case has elements that are being purposely hidden from the public, because it may change people's perceptions. Much like Hannah Kyobashi & that Johnny guy from the UK who travelled to Spain and was murdered. (I can't recall his name ATM).

All MOO and apologies if some/all of these questions have been answered.

My impression is that the footage of Taylah driving past the Changing Station in Surat was when she first arrived in Surat (given the location and direction). Taylah turns left, possibly to drive to the toilet block down that street. She may have then immediately departed Surat and driven north towards Roma and home. Her time in Surat may have been super quick, like less than 15 minutes.

Taylah’s sister mentioned on TikTok that Taylah’s kids were safe, and being protected from the public (as they should be).

I think @mishy66 mentioned that a photo of Tayla in a shirt shirt with purple writing was sent on Snapchat to Taylah’s sister. Nothing more about that is known, and the police haven’t mentioned it.

Did Taylah meet her bf and his mates 30k’s north of Surat on her drive home? Where, when, what and why has not been shared. I imagine that the info left out is very intentional and significant to the case, and I just hope there’s lots of leads and a strong investigation going on.

Why the bf reported her missing the next day is really odd given that they were travelling home together (although in separate cars).

It’s coming across as though the meeting between Surat and Roma is the crucial bit.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Rocket333]

so are you saying its confirmed it was the partners friends she met????

Because on an initial post on TN page, which many posts have now been removed, it was said in a comment.

Allegedly or confirmed hy family???

No and no. I’ll need to check where that impression came from.

I didn’t see that post by TN. Are you saying that there was a post (now removed) that Taylah met up with his mates?

 

[mishy66]

If she was wearing a white shirt when the bf last saw her, and when north of Surat, she’s changed shirts somewhere. Women would opt for the closest public bathroom or toilet block. Maybe this was why she turned left out of Surat.

Has it been confirmed that the BF was the one who saw her in her white shirt then?

Last I read the sister confirmed she had changed her shirt Sunday afternoon.

As previously said in this thread, either the sister was with her to know this ( HIGHLY UNLIKELY).

Comments on the BF page said, a snapchat photo of Tayla was sent to the sister wearing white shirt. All this was on BF page very early on and it was all screenshot.

So now its been confirmed is that what you're saying???

 

[Rocket333]

So now its been confirmed is that what you're saying???

That’d be a BIG NO. I’m just going on the tiny bits being shared. Nothings been confirmed about the meeting so I do not know.

 

[mishy66]

I have done my best to try and get up to speed on this case, but I do have a life and don't have the many hours needed to read everything about it. Having said that, there's some areas that appear to be very unclear regardless, and nobody appears to be coming forward to clarify them, and perhaps make the search a bit more pinpointed.

We have CCTV footage of her leaving the hotel, and refueling the car, both with times attached.

There's footage of her car driving at a later point, I believe in the opposite direction as would be expected? It can't be proven she was driving it.

There's talk of her meeting friends/her boyfriend's friends in/outside of Surat, then later her boyfriend on the side of the road? (As in not a town or building AFAIK) If this is true, why do we not have more of a timeline for this, or witness statements being quoted? Surely these friends could be pinpointed, I'm sure everyone knows of everyone else in these smaller towns and people talk. Why do we not know that she arrived at X's place/met at a coffee shop etc at say 11.50am, stayed for 10 minutes, then left in X direction? Wearing either the pink or white shirt?

Where exactly did she meet her boyfriend and why? Was it a planned stop, or did one have car trouble and call the other for help? Do phone records show this if it's the case? What time was she expected home? Had she made mention of visiting a friend elsewhere and telling her partner not to wait up? Why did he wait until the next morning to report her missing? Where were her kids that weekend and were they meant to be picked up on the Sunday sometime? If so, why did the babysitter not report her missing?

As for the change of clothes and the pic she sent her sister on Snapchat - why do we not know what time this was sent, and more information about the new clothing? Doesn't Snapchat also pinpoint a user's location? (I've never used it) Seems like it would be very helpful to the timeline of events on that day.

I can't help but feel this case has elements that are being purposely hidden from the public, because it may change people's perceptions. Much like Hannah Kyobashi & that Johnny guy from the UK who travelled to Spain and was murdered. (I can't recall his name ATM).

All MOO and apologies if some/all of these questions have been answered.

All valid Qs

100% agree with you The public arent being told many facts, because it will change the publics perception.

Lots of info on the public domain if you go searching for her and bf and her ex partner.

They have been mentioned both here and initially on the bf page and sisters pages. Lots have been removed but many people took screenshots .

The police and family would have so much info not being shared to public for certain.

If they can find her car that would be a huge breakthrough. Someone needs to step forward.

A young mum with 3 little kids doesnt disappear in a small town.

I wonder if police have searched the ex's propertys out there? If you do a map link of all the stops she had, then add on another property very close to a forestry thats owned by the ex's family, it sure makes interesting viewing.

JMO MOO

 

[mishy66]

Where did you hear about the meet up? What town, if any, is 30km North of Surat?

It was on ACA

 

[mishy66]

No and no. I’ll need to check where that impression came from.

I didn’t see that post by TN. Are you saying that there was a post (now removed) that Taylah met up with his mates?

Sorry I read your post as you confirmed it.

Yes the comment was on TN page initially, that they met up with his friends.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1121452616133398

This is from a Current Affair, and shows her ute traveling at 11.10 am in Surat. If you go to the 2.48 mark, you'll see it driving and approaching a give way sign, then turning left. Someone on another platform mentioned that this looks a bit odd, and having watched it afterwards, I tend to agree. The car is traveling at a normal speed, but as it approaches the intersection, and give way sign, I don't see any brake lights, but there is an indicator. It seems to take the corner a bit quicker than perhaps it should (maybe the view of traffic on the street was very clear with no real need to approach slower) and it turns from right in near the centre line, like it was almost a last minute decision.

I believe this is the last known footage of her car, with or without her as the driver.

Thoughts?

 

[chief quimby]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1121452616133398

This is from a Current Affair, and shows her ute traveling at 11.10 am in Surat. If you go to the 2.48 mark, you'll see it driving and approaching a give way sign, then turning left. Someone on another platform mentioned that this looks a bit odd, and having watched it afterwards, I tend to agree. The car is traveling at a normal speed, but as it approaches the intersection, and give way sign, I don't see any brake lights, but there is an indicator. It seems to take the corner a bit quicker than perhaps it should (maybe the view of traffic on the street was very clear with no real need to approach slower) and it turns from right in near the centre line, like it was almost a last minute decision.

I believe this is the last known footage of her car, with or without her as the driver.

Thoughts?

ShaddowTrail did a really good analysis of times and distances travelled and found she had a rather heavy accelerator foot... so add this to the fact if her hilux is the work mate model, (which it appears to be given the black handles it's not the sr5) it's manual. Bit lazy to change from third to second and they make it around the corner like that.

 

[mishy66]

Another thing to remember is as these missing persons cases get reported on news sites, the variations as time goes on, are very confusing, because journalists dont fact check.
Then someone in the public reads one new report that varies from another news report and this is another reason why people trying to find what could have happened, have differing "facts" of the same case.

It happens constantly with missing persons cases.

Include that with social media comments, and families not being forthcoming about other facts, and you have a real quagmire beginning to happen.


While some are out there saying , some comments are not fact, just remember that people can only go on what is read in papers by journalists who dont always fact check and also what has been said on social media that sometimes gets removed as time goes on.


Another reminder of what one paper reports-

Young mum still missing two months after vanishing in Queensland outback

Two months have passed since young mother-of-three Tayla Spies was last seen in the tiny town of Surat in Q...

www.9news.com.au

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/phone-data-reveals-29yearold-queensland-mum-tayla-spies-last-known-location/news-story/2ab904a3db947277cb632e3a57523092

 

[mishy66]

I think Tayla might have met friends at the Timber Crate cafe and was then caught on cctv driving past the cafe and turning left when she departed. She may have simply turned left and driven around the block before heading north to Roma. My hunch is that she headed home from Surat and was stopped on the Surat to Roma stretch.

Interesting you say she met friends at this cafe
How do you know this ???