Australia - 4 people dead on Dreamworld's Thunder River Rapids ride, Gold Coast, 2016

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http://www.news.com.au/national/que...s/news-story/5d2bb0959e65c310ce731637f10a19a0

This is what happens when people die at theme parks

EXPOLAND was thriving for more than 30 years but changed in 2007 with a single, tragic incident.

After that it was never the same. It struggled to attract patrons, became a wasteland frequented by photographers fascinated with abandoned places and only recently showed signs of life again.

Built in 1970, the park covered 20 hectares in Osaka and became one of the most popular destinations in Japan for thrillseekers.
More than 20 years after the park opened, passengers took the first ride on the Fujin Raijin II, a six-car rollercoaster that travelled along more than a kilometre of track, twisting and turning at speeds in excess of 120km/h.
It was a huge success and operated without issue for 15 years. Then, on May 5, 2007, it derailed, tossing passengers off the track and claiming the life of a 19-year-old woman.

Yoshino Kogowara died instantly when her head struck a guardrail. Eighteen others were injured.
Expoland closed briefly as investigators pored over every inch of the track and eventually found fault in an axle that had not been replaced in 15 years.
Operators said the axle should have been checked routinely, as it was every year, but an inspection scheduled for February that year was not completed.

When the park reopened, nobody came. Less than two years later, it closed for good. The park’s fortunes were captured in a single quote from a spokesman.
He told The Japan Times: “We couldn’t regain the people’s trust”.
He said it was difficult to secure a corporate sponsor that wished to be linked to the park after the incident.

Three employees at the park were charged with professional negligence resulting in death and injury and falsely claiming the park conducted regular checks on the roller coaster. They were found guilty on all charges.

BBM
 
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  • #223
Update Dreamworld investigation

QPS Media on Nov 7, 2016 @ 11:44am


Police have today completed their analysis of the scene at Dreamworld following the deaths of four people on a ride at the Coomera theme park last month.

The site has now been handed back to Dreamworld.

As the investigation is ongoing and is under the control of the Coroner, the Queensland Police Service does not intend to provide further comment on the matter.

http://mypolice.qld.gov.au/blog/2016/11/07/update-dreamworld-investigation/
 
  • #224
Family and friends of Dreamworld victims Kate Goodchild and Luke Dorsett will continue to ask one question - why?
But the pair's death on the Gold Coast last month has also taught them to live their lives as best they can.
That's what hundreds heard when they gathered at St Christopher's Church in the Canberra suburb of Manuka to remember the brother and sister killed on the Thunder River Rapids ride on October 25.
Their uncle Ray spoke of Kate's infectious laughter and how the siblings had a typical love-hate relationship.
He told how Luke would spend hours constructing Lego towers only to have his sister patiently wait for the last block to be put in place before knocking over his engineering designs.
Cries of "Mum" would echo throughout the house along with her laughter.
The congregation heard how Luke would do anything to get out of sport at school and loved watching TV shows Neighbours and Home and Away.
"It is from these early encounters with one Kylie Minogue that Luke's love of Kylie blossomed," their uncle said.
He spoke of how his nephew was a troubled soul in his early twenties, but all that changed when he met Roozi Araghi, who was also killed on the ride.
"Luke was at his happiest with Roozi," he said, expressing sincere condolences to representatives of his family who were also present.
The uncle shared tales of how they would help dress Kate's daughter Ebony - only in outfits Nicole Kidman would approve of - and missed their callings in children's birthday party entertainment.
Mourners were told how the Fountain sauce company would probably go into receivership with Kate's passing, "such was her influence on the company's sales."
The tomato sauce lover would have the condiment on everything - baked dinners, toast, fish.
The uncle shared the story of her first date with Dave, who was standing next to the ride with their youngest daughter, when they saw Top Gun at the movies.
"When Kate lent across to Dave for a kiss he said, 'What are you doing? Maverick is just about to take on Viper. Can we do this later?'"
He said the family will continue to ask why the tragedy happened to them.
"We cannot know for certain how long we have here," he said.
"What we can do is to live our lives as best we can with purpose."
Hundreds spilled out of the church to Phil Collin's 'You'll be in my heart', embracing Kate's partner Dave and family members.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/33121918/funeral-for-dreamworld-victims-in-canberra/#page1
 
  • #225
I agree JP, accidents will always happen. I could take this thought as far as to say 'where there is life, there is death' - in the end, none of us are exempt.
When accident occurs as the result of negligence from an other party, then I would hope for that negligence to be addressed legally with consequences.. Hopefully then, a lot could be' learnt' from that.

A BRISBANE lawyer has said that companies like Dreamworld are too concerned about their bottom line to worry about safety — and they’ve been allowed to get away with it.

Alison Barrett, from Maurice Blackburn, said standards are now so relaxed and penalties so minimal that firms become “complacent.”
After four people died on a ride at the Gold Coast theme park, the personal injury specialist said company directors needed to be held responsible for what happens on their watch.
“When it’s all about cost-cutting and a focus on the bottom line, safety can take a back seat,” she told news.com.au. “It’s not right and people die.
“That has consequences for loved ones. They suffer the pain for the rest of their life.
“The impacts on a child, relationships break down, we have clients who consider suicide. They are distraught. It is very hard to come back.”
Five years ago, Queensland Workplace Health and Safety used to have 100 or more prosecutions annually, she added. Now it is usually around 20 to 30.
“That’s not a reflection of better safety, it’s them being toothless, companies like Dreamworld not having the fear the stick will come out,” she said.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...n/news-story/f3f3d3c2774e1e826d00184725fb63f4


In conjunction with this there is an entity called a tombstone mentality



oh yea they do lots of studies and things but if it is cheaper to ignore than the price of a death or ........

informally is a pervasive attitude of ignoring design defects until people have died because of them.
Strictly speaking, tombstone mentality decisions are examples where there is no incentive for an economic actor to be a 'first mover' and promote safety. Sometimes this is a result of market pressures (nobody wants to pay for extra safety, despite their talk), or, it may be a result of legal disincentives such as product liability lawsuits (if a design change is made that is not government approved and somebody is injured, even if the design change was not the reason for the injury, the company may be liable).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombstone_mentality
 
  • #226
Family and friends of Dreamworld victims Kate Goodchild and Luke Dorsett will continue to ask one question - why?
But the pair's death on the Gold Coast last month has also taught them to live their lives as best they can.
That's what hundreds heard when they gathered at St Christopher's Church in the Canberra suburb of Manuka to remember the brother and sister killed on the Thunder River Rapids ride on October 25.
Their uncle Ray spoke of Kate's infectious laughter and how the siblings had a typical love-hate relationship.
He told how Luke would spend hours constructing Lego towers only to have his sister patiently wait for the last block to be put in place before knocking over his engineering designs.
Cries of "Mum" would echo throughout the house along with her laughter.
The congregation heard how Luke would do anything to get out of sport at school and loved watching TV shows Neighbours and Home and Away.
"It is from these early encounters with one Kylie Minogue that Luke's love of Kylie blossomed," their uncle said.
He spoke of how his nephew was a troubled soul in his early twenties, but all that changed when he met Roozi Araghi, who was also killed on the ride.
"Luke was at his happiest with Roozi," he said, expressing sincere condolences to representatives of his family who were also present.
The uncle shared tales of how they would help dress Kate's daughter Ebony - only in outfits Nicole Kidman would approve of - and missed their callings in children's birthday party entertainment.
Mourners were told how the Fountain sauce company would probably go into receivership with Kate's passing, "such was her influence on the company's sales."
The tomato sauce lover would have the condiment on everything - baked dinners, toast, fish.
The uncle shared the story of her first date with Dave, who was standing next to the ride with their youngest daughter, when they saw Top Gun at the movies.
"When Kate lent across to Dave for a kiss he said, 'What are you doing? Maverick is just about to take on Viper. Can we do this later?'"
He said the family will continue to ask why the tragedy happened to them.
"We cannot know for certain how long we have here," he said.
"What we can do is to live our lives as best we can with purpose."
Hundreds spilled out of the church to Phil Collin's 'You'll be in my heart', embracing Kate's partner Dave and family members.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/33121918/funeral-for-dreamworld-victims-in-canberra/#page1

Vale Kate and Luke. Prayers of comfort and strength for their familiy, friends and loved ones.
 
  • #227
I know what's happened and is still happening at Dreamworld is extremely upsetting. All we are witnessing here are Ardent's death throes. Their reckoning will come and those responsible will have no choice but to fall on their swords.

yeh i think so too by that I mean Pulse is a solemn area now.

I think human beings will have a hard time going in there and having"fun".

There is just something actually gross about that.

I think they would be more honorable to just shudder, move it to the tax loss column and get on with it.

Could you imagine Pulse opening a month later and blasting dance music?

Just the thought of it repulsive

close up shop please, in honor of them,

dying is one thing, manner of death is also a component ---- I shall not go any further now....................................,

moo
 
  • #228
http://www.news.com.au/national/que...s/news-story/c39ed88d7ed70c92467de6f06d86a2e1

Chief executive Craig Davidson previously told media the park would not reopen until after the funerals of all the victims.
However, a spokeswoman for the company said an announcement on the reopening would not be made before Wednesday.
Both Dreamworld and its sister Gold Coast theme park, WhiteWater World, have been closed since the fatal accident.

Police are preparing a report for the Coroner.
 
  • #229
Dreamworld set to reopen for summer

Ardent Leisure is expected to make an announcement on Wednesday about when its Dreamworld theme park will reopen after police said they had finished their crime-scene investigation following the deaths of four tourists late last month.

With Ardent Leisure losing an estimated $295,000 a day it remains closed, there is pressure on the listed company to reopen the park before the lucrative summer holiday season begins early next month.

But Dreamworld chief executive Craig Davidson is expected to err on the side of caution after the company was embarrassed when police blocked its first attempt to reopen only three days after four visitors were killed on the Thunder River Rapids Ride on October 25.

[FONT=sueca_hd_regular]According to its financial statements, Ardent Leisure earned $107.5 million in revenue from its Australian theme parks, including Dreamworld, the neighbouring White Water World and SkyPoint in the heart of the Gold Coast, last financial year – or about $294,700 a day.[/FONT]
[FONT=sueca_hd_regular]Ardent is expected to have a capped $100 million insurance liability exposure as per the industry standard. But it remains unclear whether the company has an industrial special risks policy to deal with the costs of a protracted business interruption.[/FONT]





Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/dreamworld-set-to-reopen-for-summer-20161107-gsjq59#ixzz4PJ6gGOHN
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  • #230
THE Dreamworld tragedy has been a wake up call to tourism operators in high-risk situations to call out complacency.

Two weeks after four adults lost their lives in horrific circumstances as the result of a ride malfunction at the Gold Coast theme park, Carnival Australia chairman Ann Sherry said the incident had made all tourism businesses ask key questions internally.

“To say, ‘are we sure we’ve got all our issues under we control, are we sure we’re not being complacent, are we sure there aren’t things happening that we’re starting turn a blind eye to’?” she said.

“Because I’ve been in that situation and it’s not a good place to be, on all sorts of levels.”

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...y/news-story/94cd4cd2a787f9f1e43dc1759a83e658
 
  • #231
The link to this mornings Brisbane Times article isn't working, will try to fix, but here it is:

Dreamworld to demolish Thunder River Rapids ride after four deaths

On Wednesday morning, Dreamworld's parent company Ardent Leisure CEO Deborah Thomas said the ride would be permanently closed.

"The closure of the ride is the only respectful and appropriate course of action," Ms Thomas said.
The announcement comes after police released the scene back to Dreamworld on Monday.
Ms Thomas said the families would be invited to help create a fitting and permanent memorial for their loved ones.
An external review has begun on all Dreamworld and Whitewater World rides and relating operating systems, led by independent engineering consultancy firm Pitt & Sherry.

"Pitt & Sherry's review will be further peer-reviewed by an industry-leading global theme park safety specialist," Ms Thomas said.
Dreamworld's internal review, which includes reviewing all operating policies and procedures, was also "well progressed", she said.
"In addition to these reviews, Dreamworld remains committed to working closely with the Workplace Health and Safety Queensland team," she said.
"No ride at Dreamworld will operate until the Workplace Health and Safety Audit has been completed and unless it passes the multi-level internal and external review process."

OK, working now
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ide-thunder-river-rapids-20161108-gskzh3.html
 
  • #232


Dreamworld to demolish Thunder River Rapids ride after four deaths

On Wednesday morning, Dreamworld's parent company Ardent Leisure CEO Deborah Thomas said the ride would be permanently closed.

accident or no accident, its probably time they replaced it with a different ride/attraction anyway,

change is always good for an amusement park,
 
  • #233
accident or no accident, its probably time they replaced it with a different ride/attraction anyway,

change is always good for an amusement park,

Really, they don't have any other choice but to tear it down under the circumstances.
Being 30 years old, yes, I'd say it was due to go.
 
  • #234
Really, they don't have any other choice but to tear it down under the circumstances.

i don't really agree with that, lots of rides re-open after accidents
 
  • #235
i don't really agree with that, lots of rides re-open after accidents

Thats ok you don't agree, we are all entitled to our own opinions.
 
  • #236
The link to this mornings Brisbane Times article isn't working, will try to fix, but here it is:

Dreamworld to demolish Thunder River Rapids ride after four deaths

On Wednesday morning, Dreamworld's parent company Ardent Leisure CEO Deborah Thomas said the ride would be permanently closed.

"The closure of the ride is the only respectful and appropriate course of action," Ms Thomas said.
The announcement comes after police released the scene back to Dreamworld on Monday.
Ms Thomas said the families would be invited to help create a fitting and permanent memorial for their loved ones.
An external review has begun on all Dreamworld and Whitewater World rides and relating operating systems, led by independent engineering consultancy firm Pitt & Sherry.

"Pitt & Sherry's review will be further peer-reviewed by an industry-leading global theme park safety specialist," Ms Thomas said.
Dreamworld's internal review, which includes reviewing all operating policies and procedures, was also "well progressed", she said.
"In addition to these reviews, Dreamworld remains committed to working closely with the Workplace Health and Safety Queensland team," she said.
"No ride at Dreamworld will operate until the Workplace Health and Safety Audit has been completed and unless it passes the multi-level internal and external review process."

OK, working now
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ide-thunder-river-rapids-20161108-gskzh3.html

This is the right thing to do. I can only hope the same action will be taken with the Verruckt water slide but I'm not optimistic.
 
  • #237
This is the right thing to do. I can only hope the same action will be taken with the Verruckt water slide but I'm not optimistic.

I agree Greg, its the right thing to do after such tragic loss. To leave it there would be so disrespectful.
RIP Caleb :rose:
 
  • #238
Just like to thank symbah and CARIIS for continuing to follow this tragic event and keeping me up to date with MSM articles and various background research .materials.

:yourock:
 
  • #239
i don't really agree with that, lots of rides re-open after accidents

What I heave learned I "feeL" about this type of situation (and Pulse)- thw whole thing jeeds yo just beleft alone and never resumed.A church, university reopened after event.

But I think it is when it is "places" that are about fun -the whole place is tainted
 
  • #240
What I heave learned I "feeL" about this type of situation (and Pulse)- thw whole thing jeeds yo just beleft alone and never resumed.A church, university reopened after event.

But I think it is when it is "places" that are about fun -the whole place is tainted

I wouldn't think of taking my family or friends to Dreamworld now.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/prop...amworld-future-this-week-20161108-gsklm1.html

While it is tipped to remain a theme park in the medium term, the site spans 850,000 square metres and sits in a growth corridor for residential housing.
"Our initial view is that Ardent's carrying value for Dreamworld of $235 million would be supported under this scenario," Credit Suisse analysts said.
Property agents have said the site could also be redeveloped into a mixed-use hotel and retail area to connect with the nearby Coomera town centre.
 

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