Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[MelmothTheLost]

I thought it was about whether Gus's presence on the day could be proved from soiled nappies.

Another good angle that I'd not considered.

 

[Ellery84]

Perhaps those who have already posted about it before me might be able to answer your question.
I see it has now been answered.

Thanks @MelmothTheLost it is something to consider.

And even if he wasn't wearing nappies, he would have to "go" somewhere at some time.

That's a great point.

 

[Ellery84]

Nowhere. I just used it as one example of nappies/pullups being evidence he was actually there. It would be pretty easy to determine if they needed evidence to back up the family's claims.

(Some people elswhere have speculated that he may have not even been there or had been missing for longer than the family claim.)

That's what I was thinking, too
...... BBM

Call me a sceptic but I'd think investigators would need more evidence rather than just what family the reports what happened. Like in the William Tyrell case the data from the photo taken of him they had date, time, location.

 

[MIG214222]

I've not found a definitive answer to how much weight an adult WTE could lift so it would be a useful experiment with pieces of meat calibrated at 5lb intervals to see which were taken away and which left.

I would imagine that males are larger than females and that males would therefore have a higher maximum lifting weight than females.

Hi @MelmothTheLost,

• The reason I added the reference: Wedge-tailed_eagle, Dietary biology is bc the answer is there: An eagle of the species can carry prey of at least 5 kg (11 lb).[4][7]
• There's additional *interesting* information in the same chapter.
• & for the record - female WTEs are larger than male WTEs, reference: Birdlife Australia - Females (4.2 kg – 5.3 kg) are also larger and heavier than males (3.2 kg up to 4.0 kg).

To conclude, I'll stick my neck out here & boldly state (imo) a Wedgie did not have anything to do with the disappearance of Gus Lamont.

All M
Edit, added: Birdlife Aus info & opinion

 

[tillytatler]

That's a great point.

If the searchers can't necessarily find a small child in a piece of land that vast then i doubt they can find a small child's turd.

 

[musicaljoke]

I'm just waiting for this case to turn on its head. I can feel it coming.

Because it's almost as if Gus wasn't at Oak Park on 27 September.

There's no evidence to suggest he was.

Imo

Do you mean apart from the evidence of at least three adult witnesses that we know about? Small children leave a mess of evidence of their presence. Food that was partially chewed on, laundry that evidently has not been left in the hamper long, a wet bathtub with toys set to dry, a bed that looks recently slept in, a potty seat that's still on the toilet, the TV set to their station, toys where they haven't been picked up all day...

 

[jessicalouise]

Do you mean apart from the evidence of at least three adult witnesses that we know about? Small children leave a mess of evidence of their presence. Food that was partially chewed on, laundry that evidently has not been left in the hamper long, a wet bathtub with toys set to dry, a bed that looks recently slept in, a potty seat that's still on the toilet, the TV set to their station, toys where they haven't been picked up all day...

To be fair - and I'm speaking generally here, not to this case - those things can be staged. Bit harder to stage soiled pull ups.
I imagine they'll also have phone data and I assume their father stays in contact regularly over the phone (facetime) when he's not able to see them in person.

 

[PNW]

Do you mean apart from the evidence of at least three adult witnesses that we know about? Small children leave a mess of evidence of their presence. Food that was partially chewed on, laundry that evidently has not been left in the hamper long, a wet bathtub with toys set to dry, a bed that looks recently slept in, a potty seat that's still on the toilet, the TV set to their station, toys where they haven't been picked up all day...

And all those could be from Ronnie.

 

[seasideForest]

And all those could be from Ronnie.

Actually not all of them, no.

 

[musicaljoke]

To be fair - and I'm speaking generally here, not to this case - those things can be staged. Bit harder to stage soiled pull ups.
I imagine they'll also have phone data and I assume their father stays in contact regularly over the phone (facetime) when he's not able to see them in person

It wouldn't be easy to stage a carrot stick or sandwich with a bite taken out of it. Kids are like little walking petri dishes. They leave a little trail.

 

[jessicalouise]

It wouldn't be easy to stage a carrot stick or sandwich with a bite taken out of it. Kids are like little walking petri dishes. They leave a little trail.

How would it not be easy? It would be incredibly easy. You take a nibble out if it.

That said, I doubt food would be left around after lunch/afternoon tea. Especially if they were about to have dinner. Scraps get thrown into the bin or sometimes the caregiver if they're family eats the leftovers.

The reason nappies/pull ups would be obvious is because Gus would be in a different size to his brother. And I doubt he'd be in cloth nappies at his age - he'd probably be in training pants.

 

[Lemony]

Police are resuming the search for Gus Lamont at his family’s remote property, more than a month after he disappeared.
Officers will return to his family’s homestead Oak Park Station – located about 40km south of Yunta in South Australia’s Mid North – on Friday.

In a statement, the police said they would drain a large dam located about 600m from the homestead.

The dam, which is about 4.5m deep, was previously searched by police divers in the initial days of the search for Gus.

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/police-to-resume-search-for-missing-4yo-gus-on-familys-remote-property-in-south-australia/news-story/f06b1a50a4a97fa8cfce9e70cd4a7c4b

 

[iamshadow21]

Police are resuming the search for Gus Lamont at his family’s remote property, more than a month after he disappeared.
Officers will return to his family’s homestead Oak Park Station – located about 40km south of Yunta in South Australia’s Mid North – on Friday.

In a statement, the police said they would drain a large dam located about 600m from the homestead.

The dam, which is about 4.5m deep, was previously searched by police divers in the initial days of the search for Gus.

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/police-to-resume-search-for-missing-4yo-gus-on-familys-remote-property-in-south-australia/news-story/f06b1a50a4a97fa8cfce9e70cd4a7c4b

It wouldn't surprise me if he's in there. Dams are often opaque with silt, and it's close, and toddlers are small. Easily missed, even for experienced divers.

MOO

 

[Ellery84]

https://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/police-to-resume-search-for-missing-4yo-gus-on-familys-remote-property-in-south-australia/news-story/f06b1a50a4a97fa8cfce9e70cd4a7c4b

I really hope they find little Gus.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

It wouldn't surprise me if he's in there. Dams are often opaque with silt, and it's close, and toddlers are small. Easily missed, even for experienced divers.

MOO

I am honestly surprised that this wasn't done sooner to rule it out

 

[jessicalouise]

Wouldn't his body have floated by now though? I dont really know much about dams.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Wouldn't his body have floated by now though? I dont really know much about dams.

I thought this too, it would have but not if its trapped by underwater plants / rocks etc I guess

 

[kiwi50]

I really hope they find him, wish they had drained the dam earlier.
It probably is the most logical place he could be.
Does anyone know how large the dam is, and how long it would take to drain it.

 

[spiritualdreaming]

I am honestly surprised that this wasn't done sooner to rule it out

Yes I'm surprised that LE didn't do this within the 1st and 2nd searches.

It would definitely be a more likely scenario than him walking beyond the radius that has been searched.

Dams have such slippery edges and one would think if he went into the dam there would've been clear evidence of him entering the dam.

Also curious of what sort of hat he actually had on that day and whether that would've floated or sunk.

Given water is so precious out in that area I do hope they are draining it via trucks.

 

[iamshadow21]

I am honestly surprised that this wasn't done sooner to rule it out

If it's four and a half metres deep, that is one bigazz dam, and draining it is probably going to mean they're going to have to be really conservative with water management for the foreseeable or buy water to maintain their livestock and their own water needs. That is a massive issue. You can't pasture animals in an area with no water, either, so they're going to have to only graze stock in areas serviced by other water sources until it's refilled to a decent level.

They haven't ignored the dam, they've obviously had the frogmen in there, but draining it is a huge thing that they wouldn't be doing unless there was no other way forward. And they're right, this is the only way to be sure Gus isn't in there.

MOO