Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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Agree! I pretty much grew up in a creek 😄 Maybe Gus is artistic and was ‘drawing’ in the dirt. Or had a Matchbox type car or truck and was driving it around. Possibilities are kind of endless, imo!
I spent countless hours playing in creeks looking for what we called joogies. Also countless hours moving soil, dirt, clay, sand from one pile to another, sometimes with my brother and sometimes alone. We had a whole and complex imaginary play world going. We were excavating gold with a bucket and spade or our hands, piling it here, piling it there for hours...these are some of my most precious memories of an early childhood spent in the bush.
 
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If you listen to the Deputy Commissioner in this video in the 7News link (about the 22 sec mark) she explains that Gus' case is being managed by the Missing Persons section which sits within the Major Crimes division.

7News Adelaide


However, they have now formed Taskforce Horizon which has 12 members - we haven't heard who those 12 members are. Probably 12 people from various areas that can help with the search and investigation. imo

On Tuesday morning, the commissioner announced the creation of Taskforce Horizon, which he said comprised 12 people, including "a range of specialists who will continue to analyse information, assess opportunities for further searches on the property, and investigate all of the circumstances that possibly might have occurred that's resulted in Gus going missing"

Thanks. That makes sense to me.I have been looking for the link from a tv newsroom just recently where it was said now with the Major Crimes Investigation.
 
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I grew up on a farm back in the day no fence but we knew where we weren't allowed to go and just didn't go there . But just a different time and we knew if we heard marco we would yell polo . I feel for the family if he honestly just wandered off. But I can't figure this out there should of been just one sign jmvho
 
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I spent countless hours playing in creeks looking for what we called joogies. Also countless hours moving soil, dirt, clay, sand from one pile to another, sometimes with my brother and sometimes alone. We had a whole and complex imaginary play world going. We were excavating gold with a bucket and spade or our hands, piling it here, piling it there for hours...these are some of my most precious memories of an early childhood spent in the bush.
Love it! Mine was coastal New Jersey. The woods and creek behind our house were magical. Tadpoles, pretty gem-like rocks, making mud pies in frisbees, etc etc. I loved it with friends or alone, no matter. I wonder if I ever found any joogies 😃

Gus absolutely could have been just as content, and the adults in his family would know if he was. Sadly, I could also see him following something or someone, or walking off to fetch something to add to his play.
 
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I have had little ones, and now as a Grandmother, I know that taking care of a baby and a 4 year old is challenging.

I just wondered about the Grandma's timeline. And was Gus outside, alone for more than 10 or 15 minutes?! Before she checked on him. Think about the Grandma's timeline, taking care of the baby, feeding, diaper change, check fridge, start dinner, baby in high chair, check on Gus?! Unless Grandma is "Wonder Woman", that right there is 30 minutes. Believe me. What you do in 10 minutes at age 25 takes 3x longer.
 
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It's that cooking dinner thing that has me puzzled. Maybe this....Gus, go out and play for a wee bit while I get dinner ready....maybe not. Nobody knows.

Maybe Gus already ate. Maybe not. If not, the little guy would have known dinner was on the way. Was he distracted somehow? got a couple hundred meters away from the homestead, lost, couldn't find his way back, wandered aimlessly until nightfall? Yet no sign of him anywhere. None.

How far could he have gone anyway? A 4 year old, assuming a walk in a straight line for a couple hours? How likely is that? Straight through without a stop? I don't know. I doubt it. Then several folks yelling for him in the quiet of night, and no reply. It doesn't make sense to me. Unless he passed away early, but then, he'd be lying somewhere relatively close. Yet no sign. No footprints away from the area. No drag marks. No reports of broken branches, blood, hair, clothing, sounds....nothing.

Then there's that aboriginal tracker, (and he appears to be quite adept at the skill), that guy said he'd tell the story. 'One day I will tell the story (about Gus).' What's THAT mean? That's loaded with enough stuff for me to ponder for quite some time. How's the tracker know the story {about Gus}. If I were a reporter, I'd be trackin' the tracker, see if he wants to elaborate on that :) Can't get that comment outta my mind.

Police believe Gus 'likely wandered off in to the twilight'.

Then there's that ONE boot print, believed to match the boots Gus was wearing. How does a 4 year old leave one print? One. What's THAT all about? And, the wild thing for me is, this one footprint was found a half a kilometer north of the family home. That's quite a thorough search in my view, one print, 500 meters away from the home, in a vast sea of scrub and brush....not in the dirt pile, or near the dirt pile, or heading away from the dirt pile.


It was dinner time. Gus was playing in a dirt pile. No footprints that we've been told about led away from that dirt pile.
 
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I have had little ones, and now as a Grandmother, I know that taking care of a baby and a 4 year old is challenging.

I just wondered about the Grandma's timeline. And was Gus outside, alone for more than 10 or 15 minutes?! Before she checked on him. Think about the Grandma's timeline, taking care of the baby, feeding, diaper change, check fridge, start dinner, baby in high chair, check on Gus?! Unless Grandma is "Wonder Woman", that right there is 30 minutes. Believe me. What you do in 10 minutes at age 25 takes 3x longer.
We already know police have said when SM checked on Gus about 30 mins later she couldn't find him right? ... But just saying your conjecture is more or less how it was, moo there is no way that SM would be charged with child neglect. And frankly, imo, there's no basis for negative speculation insinuating neglect whether short or long term given the publicly available facts. Jmo
 
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It's that cooking dinner thing that has me puzzled. Maybe this....Gus, go out and play for a wee bit while I get dinner ready....maybe not. Nobody knows.

Maybe Gus already ate. Maybe not. If not, the little guy would have known dinner was on the way. Was he distracted somehow? got a couple hundred meters away from the homestead, lost, couldn't find his way back, wandered aimlessly until nightfall? Yet no sign of him anywhere. None.

How far could he have gone anyway? A 4 year old, assuming a walk in a straight line for a couple hours? How likely is that? Straight through without a stop? I don't know. I doubt it. Then several folks yelling for him in the quiet of night, and no reply. It doesn't make sense to me. Unless he passed away early, but then, he'd be lying somewhere relatively close. Yet no sign. No footprints away from the area. No drag marks. No reports of broken branches, blood, hair, clothing, sounds....nothing.

Then there's that aboriginal tracker, (and he appears to be quite adept at the skill), that guy said he'd tell the story. 'One day I will tell the story (about Gus).' What's THAT mean? That's loaded with enough stuff for me to ponder for quite some time. How's the tracker know the story {about Gus}. If I were a reporter, I'd be trackin' the tracker, see if he wants to elaborate on that :) Can't get that comment outta my mind.

Police believe Gus 'likely wandered off in to the twilight'.

Then there's that ONE boot print, believed to match the boots Gus was wearing. How does a 4 year old leave one print? One. What's THAT all about? And, the wild thing for me is, this one footprint was found a half a kilometer north of the family home. That's quite a thorough search in my view, one print, 500 meters away from the home, in a vast sea of scrub and brush....not in the dirt pile, or near the dirt pile, or heading away from the dirt pile.


It was dinner time. Gus was playing in a dirt pile. No footprints that we've been told about led away from that dirt pile.
Hi, Just to mention that I thought I read that the footprint was determined not to be Gus's? Maybe someone can confirm that. IMO the footprint looked too big to be Gus's. Other than that, I haven't seen any information re. investigators latest search, but I just hope they are examining every inch inside and outside, and as someone here mentioned, under any buildings and objects lying around and especially on whatever route Gus would have taken from the sandpile to the home. Let's not forget about another possible distraction for the adults, the big game that was on tv around suppertime. Although, I guess his mom and Josie weren't watching it since they were miles away working. Not sure if Shannon was watching it. One more thing, if Gus is anything like my grandson, he might not be so quick or interested in getting to dinner on time!
 
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So, I just took a looky at the map, and 500 meters North of Oak Park Station, where the lone footprint was found, happens to be in the vicinity of Oak Park Road, one of the main roads out of there. Did Gus open a car door, step out, one foot hitting the ground, before he was pulled back in? Or was he in a 4x4 atv, and stepped out, then got dragged back in? This one footprint is baffling, for sure. Or, did an actor place that print there to throw off a tracker?
 
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There were two footprints found. They think the first one found belonged to Gus.
They don't believe the 2nd one found belonged to Gus.


30th September
“We’re buoyed by that fact,” Superintendent Mark Syrus said in confirming the footprint matched the boots Gus was wearing when he vanished.
Australian Army called in as footprint found in search for four-year-old missing in SA outback

6th October
Police have discovered a second footprint in the search for little Gus Lamont but believe it does not belong to the four-year-old
7News Adelaide
 
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Then there's that aboriginal tracker, (and he appears to be quite adept at the skill), that guy said he'd tell the story. 'One day I will tell the story (about Gus).' What's THAT mean? That's loaded with enough stuff for me to ponder for quite some time. How's the tracker know the story {about Gus}.
RSBM

On the subject of the tracker's comment...

I don't know what he meant by that, but he made it sound like he knows what happened, but can't disclose it yet for whatever reason. If that's what he was trying to make it sound like, then I would guess he really does know. Either that, or he doesn't know any more than anyone, but wants people to think he does, and I doubt that. But taken in context of the other things he said before that, it doesn't sound like he knows what happened.

So why would he say that? I think he just worded it badly, and what he might have meant was that one day, he (and everyone) will know what happened, and then he will have a story to tell. He will tell the story of how he was found, etc., one day, after they find out what happened. I don't know, that sounds like a stretch now that I tried to explain it, but it's possible that's what he was trying to say.

But if he didn't want to make it sound like he already knows the whole story, then he shouldn't have said it that way, imo.
 
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There were two footprints found. They think the first one found belonged to Gus but are not sure of the age of the footprint.
They don't believe the 2nd one found belonged to Gus.


30th September
“We’re buoyed by that fact,” Superintendent Mark Syrus said in confirming the footprint matched the boots Gus was wearing when he vanished.
Australian Army called in as footprint found in search for four-year-old missing in SA outback

6th October
Police have discovered a second footprint in the search for little Gus Lamont but believe it does not belong to the four-year-old
7News Adelaide
I guess the ground there is the type that simply doesn't show footprints for the most part. Packed hard surface or something. Or windy, and sand or dirt blows over or away footprints almost as soon as they're made. I guess.
 
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Long Post incoming.

1) Re the Bolded in para 2 of your post. What should have been done differently in the first days of searching when there was hope that Gus would be located alive? Beginning on the night of Sat Sept 27th, going all day Sunday, Sunday night, Monday, Monday Night...Tuesday and on and on?

You post that "...in most genuine missing child cases..." X, Y & Z happens...so it is your opinion that X, Y &Z didn't happen in this case? And therefore we should be suspect about this being a genuine missing child case? Or we should be suss of the verity of the family, the grandparents, the cops? The verity of the police updates?

As to X, Y & Z being absent, are you saying the search was not frantic enough? That the community, police and other agencies didn't mobilise together fast enough? Family not up front enough? In accordance with what standard exactly?

At the end of my post I've linked a few reports, mostly compiled by the ABC, which moo serve to counter any not-frantic-enough charge. I've tried to place them in chronological order.

Your specific questions bolded.

We do not have clear confirmed timing. Do you mean when Gus went missing?. The timing has been communicated to the public. That is confirmation Imo.

The tree still fell in the forest even though we didn't see it.ie what makes you doubt that the police have not interviewed family about the timing, cross-checked and confirmed it?

Report by Nightly.com dated 3rd Oct (below) has info on deployment of crime scene detectives in this case. As do numerous ABC reports from this date going forward. Is it too much to assume they did their due diligence and Task force Horizon continues to do so with family and neighbours? Jmo.

We do not have key facts by Police? What key facts?. Police updates have been consistent and clear. Moo privacy and investigative integrity mean police are not going to release reports concerning alibis and interviews with family, neighbours and other investigative angles at this time. They are not going to get up there and say specifically we interviewed X and cleared them. Moo

Imo the 'key facts' have been updated and regularly released... no evidence of foul play, family is fully cooperative. What other key facts should be made public? Key facts regarding the search efforts have been released in detail and in a timely fashion.

Police cannot release key facts which do not exist Imo.

We do not have the family out front begging for help? I'm genuinely dumb struck by this point. There is no doubt help was forthcoming and enormous. There was no reason or need for family to publicly beg. The investigation up until this point has not required the family to publicly plead in front of cameras for anything. I cannot understand this point and have posted a few times regarding the moo oddity of why members of the public expect/ed the family to publicly plead/beg. The family released a statement through a spokesperson early on relaying their devastation and gratitude for all the help ( ABC report linked below). I guess that was not enough?

We did not get a photo released straight away?
I've seen the AI fake news and the manipulations of the released photo. That photo and future manipulations of it are on the internet forever.

Police and the community were, and at present Police still are, looking for a lost boy on a remote station. What he was wearing was described in detail. No other child was reported missing and it was hoped Gus would be located alive and quickly. (See linked Report re release of photo).

I don't understand why the timing of the photo release should be considered odd, suspicious or otherwise indicate that this is not a genuine missing child case. The delayed release of the photo did not cause anyone on the ground to miss seeing Gus Imo.

Petitioning the devil himself for help. I get the sentiment. Moo in this case though, the family did not have to 'petition the devil'. Community support was immediately overwhelming as soon as police released a statement on Sunday Sept 28th. (See link re community support below.).

So perhaps you contend the public was not informed quickly enough? Should Police have released a statement at 8pm on Sat night before even attempting their all night search? Should neighbours and people in Yunta have been mobilised out on that remote property in the dark, searching in chaos when the police had the equipment to do as calm, methodical and professional job as possible when there was hope Gus would be found that night?

Or perhaps the family should have gone around alerting their neighbours and community members in Yunta that night, even though they had the Police there searching? I don't think I am entitled to cast those sorts of judgements and claim because such and such didn't happen, something is amiss. To me, such a contention is more than unreasonable, it is absurd. Jmo

Links

30th Sept. Family Statement

2nd Oct Re Photo Release

3rd Oct. Summary of search efforts beginning Sat 27th Dec.

The Nightly.com: 3rd Oct Major Crime Scene Detectives deployed.

Asst Comm Ian Parrot.
"I think everyone in the public will expect that we would have major crime detectives involved in this, and this has some of the most experienced detectives that we have in our organisation.
“They have been actively assisting our local investigators as well as the searchers to make sure that we can actually cover off on every single element that may be an option in these circumstances.

3rd October. Summary of Community Support

👏👏👏

not to mention many of the family members who do a public plea end up being criminally charged
 
  • #2,854
Love it! Mine was coastal New Jersey. The woods and creek behind our house were magical. Tadpoles, pretty gem-like rocks, making mud pies in frisbees, etc etc. I loved it with friends or alone, no matter. I wonder if I ever found any joogies 😃

Gus absolutely could have been just as content, and the adults in his family would know if he was. Sadly, I could also see him following something or someone, or walking off to fetch something to add to his play.
*didn’t matter. (Sorry, I wish I could edit my weird wording up there, because grammar matters 🥹)
 
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I guess the ground there is the type that simply doesn't show footprints for the most part. Packed hard surface or something. Or windy, and sand or dirt blows over or away footprints almost as soon as they're made. I guess.
Both Imo, plus the human factor...

Family members spent approx three hours between c5.30 and 8.30pm searching (sun-down and civil twilight finished by around 8pm at that time of year). I assume they would have traversed extensively around the sand mound where SM last saw Gus, all around the homestead area, searching for Gus, and probably out to the dams as well, inadvertently making it much harder for future searchers to distinguish shoe prints down the track. So moo that can be added to factors like wind.

IIRC police stated they were having difficulty trying to determine which direction Gus had taken. I believe on that first night and day police were hopeful of locating Gus. Perhaps they should have called a tracker in earlier, Idk, but I can understand why they had no luck in finding shoe prints that would indicate his direction of travel.

And yes, additionally there are sections of the immediate terrain which are not conducive to preserving prints.
Jmo
 
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Has anyone ever seen it reported what time Jess and Josie returned to the homestead that day, and if they saw Gus when they got back? Or maybe they were summoned back to the home when Shannon realized she didn't know where he was?
No. But afaik, there’s no mobile phone reception out there. Unless they had walkie talkies, it might be hard to communicate out in the fields to the homestead. IMO
 
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I've read, Shannon cooked dinner, but I also have read, that she went for a walk. What is true?
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According to an earlier post by Total_C, it was reported in one of the early MSM articles (now paywalled) but I'm not sure it was accurate as it doesn't seem to have been reported in other MSM. Could have been a mix-up between the the grandparents.

from: Australia - AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

"Gus was last seen about 5pm on Saturday, playing in the sand outside his familys Oak Park Station homestead, 40km south of Yunta. Left alone for just half an hour, he was gone by the time his grandmother, Shannon, returned about 5.30pm."
 
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Not sure where to put this but thanks to whoever gifted me a guardian! Money tight these days so much appreciated!
 
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