Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[musicaljoke]

An alternative could be that something he jumped on broke. Like a piece of timber or tin. I'd want a thorough search done of every place in every building to be researched. LE haven't discussed in-depth searches of those buildings, only searching the land. MOO

Searching the buildings would have been done immediately. Search and Rescue teams are professionally trained and have a protocol that they follow. They don't reinvent the strategy every time they do a search. There would be no opportunity for a hideous error such as failure to search the buildings,

 

[musicaljoke]

Being a good walker he very well could’ve walked further than first thought ,left no footprints because the ground’s as dry as a dead dingoes donger , crawled into a small space and bitten by a snake.

It certainly seems like one of the most logical explanations. I have no doubt that he could still be out on the land. May he be found soon so that the family can lay him to rest.

 

[acutename]

i'm crunching a few numbers here, assuming it was low 20's C at 5 pm and dropped to high single digits by midnight, and using newton's law of cooling. ... if he had died at 5 pm, 6 hours would be just at the edge of still being detectable. if he had died somewhere in between, he would have been warmer for longer, and more visible to the IR. and if he was still alive, he would have been easily detectable, even if hypothermic.

as to whether the family would have known possible holes etc. ... i'm sure they would know many, especially close to the house and places they pass regularly, but not all. and i think there's two factors at play here that are easy to underestimate: 1) how much work it is to search a big area, and 2) how easy it is to overlook a body, especially a small one. as you may know, there have been plenty of cases where a body was found in an area that had previously been searched.

to be clear, i'm not wedded to the belief that he is concealed somewhere far from house, only that IF he's out there, he's concealed. the more they don't find him away from the house, the more i think he's somewhere near it.

not sure what numbers you crunched but kids can get hypothermic pretty quick- extra surface area, no body fat, little stomachs. You would think if he got lost and/or scared he would have started yelling which did not seem to happen.

Hypothermia in Children: Care Instructions​

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It can happen when your child is exposed to cold air, water, wind, or rain. Hypothermia is an emergency. If heat loss continues, a child can quickly pass out.

 

[BreakingNews]

Searching the buildings would have been done immediately. Search and Rescue teams are professionally trained and have a protocol that they follow. They don't reinvent the strategy every time they do a search. There would be no opportunity for a hideous error such as failure to search the buildings,

I never said they didnt search the buildings, I'm saying that LE didn't say anything much about it in their pressers. However they talked about searching the land many times.

I would just like the focus to be on researching every building on that property. Police from a city don't always think like a bush person. I had personal experience when a teenage boy went missing from Machans Beach in Cairns. The police kept saying he could not have headed north because there was too much water. I kept telling them that any kid who lived in the nearby beach areas knew how to get through. It took LE 3 months to get my son to show them how it was possible. Guess what. They found the boy 300metres to the north of the house. He had suicided.
The local police would have known that, but he was away at that time.

 

[Zedx]

I agree this is a very possible outcome, however....

I remain astonished that a veteran native tracker found nothing, and though the terrain is vast, my gut tells me those who've been on that ground for decades know the lay of the land and all the hidey holes.

IMO, By the time authorities engaged a tracker, it was too late, the area had already been compromised by searchers. Also the ground may had been to dry to leave foot prints and if sheep had been grazing how would he know if a sheep or a boy broke branches etc? Example being Joanna Lees (Peter Falconio disappearance) case where no foot prints were found where the cars stopped on the side of the road or in the area where JL said she ran and hid.

 

[kurtneverdied]

IMO, By the time authorities engaged a tracker, it was too late, the area had already been compromised by searchers. Also the ground may had been to dry to leave foot prints and if sheep had been grazing how would he know if a sheep or a boy broke branches etc? Example being Joanna Lees (Peter Falconio disappearance) case where no foot prints were found where the cars stopped on the side of the road or in the area where JL said she ran and hid.

Respectfully disagree the area would of been compromised. The searchers wouldn't have been stupid enough to walk over tracks they where looking for. I'm not sure if conditions of the ground where even leaving a footprints if the searchers themselves, maybe just scuff marks here and there.
I still imo am convinced he never wandered far, if at all. Put yourself in that situation. Pitch black besides the lights from the homestead. Super quite bedsides the noise of searching. The odds of walking in some kind of straight line in pitch black. The odds he didn't drop anything along like his hat or a shoe as he likely wouldn't be able to see it once fallen off.
There is so much potential for just some clue. I shook my head when they put all that people power in a new search even further out and a leading private investigator saying they should have searched further. There is way more chance he's somewhere closer or in the homestead still.
If anything wasn't done right, and I can't say it hasn't is that the road should have been sealed off for potential footprints, blood, debris from a collision. How quickly any of that would of been ruined by all the vehicles etc. Yes they needed access to search for him but has it potentially ruined any evidence of something happening on that road. Considering the lack of any evidence. An accidental hit and hide him has got to be up there on potential scenarios.

 

[twomoresmores]

Searching the buildings would have been done immediately. Search and Rescue teams are professionally trained and have a protocol that they follow. They don't reinvent the strategy every time they do a search. There would be no opportunity for a hideous error such as failure to search the buildings,

This is foremost in my thoughts about this case. Plus the family will surely have repeatedly searched buildings and nooks and crannies since. I am baffled. At the moment, I have no leading theory as to what happened and therefore can't envisage how it'll be solved.

 

[Ellery84]

This is foremost in my thoughts about this case. Plus the family will surely have repeatedly searched buildings and nooks and crannies since. I am baffled. At the moment, I have no leading theory as to what happened and therefore can't envisage how it'll be solved.

I’m also completely baffled. If only the police would tell the media a bit more about what’s going on, but I understand why they choose not to.

Imo

 

[BreakingNews]

I’m also completely baffled. If only the police would tell the media a bit more about what’s going on, but I understand why they choose not to.

Imo

Ellery84, what other information do you think police could tell us? Do you think police are hiding some information, which is their right to do?
MOO is that there isn't anymore for us to know. I'm leaning towards Gus slipping within a building. I used to live on a property and often found new places to explore around the sheds. Old places that no-one had been in for years. I fell through rusty tin once, but could never reveal my fall, because I should not have been there.

 

[Lebowski]

This is foremost in my thoughts about this case. Plus the family will surely have repeatedly searched buildings and nooks and crannies since. I am baffled. At the moment, I have no leading theory as to what happened and therefore can't envisage how it'll be solved.

i think it's easy to underestimate how many possible hiding places there are when we're just picturing it in our heads.

i'm not certain of anything, and i do at least agree that the more they search a given area the less likely he's there. and that goes for both the wilderness and the area around the buildings. at some point, it may become logically necessary to question the assumptions we've been given to work with, but i don't think we're there yet.

 

[essareem]

Yeah there would be lots of hiding places. I’m not sure how far and how long an active four year old would walk in a few hours of daylight on his own but I doubt they’d go further than 4km. Back in the day my 4year old son was an incredibly good walker with loads of stamina and could easily walk 4 km in half a hour but I reckon even he would’ve stopped after covering that amount of distance alone and lost, and his hat would’ve been ditched before then.
I know that missing persons have been found years later in areas previously searched but I’m wondering whether those searches had as many people and resources as in this case , and also what the delay is in the new search that was recently announced. The silence is deafening. It makes me wonder if the police are onto something and it’s a bluff to put a perpetrator at ease.

Agreed, although I have to say - I'm amazed at your son's abilities at such a young age - that's 8km/hr... basically jogging speed for someone with adult sized legs/stride!

Weren't the police planning to do another search? I'm following so many cases I can't keep up.

 

[Lady-J]

Agreed, although I have to say - I'm amazed at your son's abilities at such a young age - that's 8km/hr... basically jogging speed for someone with adult sized legs/stride!

Weren't the police planning to do another search? I'm following so many cases I can't keep up.

Yes I used to have to run to keep up to him. This kid could walk before he was one and run at age one - not normal lol .
I actually lost him once on a walk when we were 1km from the car and he was four. At the time I was carrying his baby sister and he got ahead of me and went out of sight , I couldn’t keep up. He panicked and ran along a track, then a road and somehow found our car. I was beside myself. A lady had seen him running in that direction and gave me a lift. After that incident I purchased a harness.

The police announced another upcoming search for Gus about 2 weeks ago but it’s gone quiet.

 

[Dotta]

Nearly 2 months have passed since Gus vanished.
Surely,
during this time
all outbuildings, sheds, the house itself, etc.,
have been searched thoroughly, no?
Where is the boy?

 

[spiritualdreaming]

Update - Gus Lamont search on 25 November

Police will tomorrow (25 November 2025) return to Oak Park Station to continue the search for four-year-old Gus Lamont who was last seen on 27 September 2025.

www.police.sa.gov.au

Police will tomorrow (25 November 2025) return to Oak Park Station to continue the search for four-year-old Gus Lamont who was last seen on 27 September 2025.
The search, which is expected to last up to three days, will involve STAR Group officers and Task Force Horizon officers using specialised equipment to search six mine shafts in the area.

The uncovered and unfenced shafts are located between 5.5km and 12km from the Oak Park homestead in areas not searched on foot by police. Police were not previously aware of the location of these sites.

 

[Ellery84]

Update - Gus Lamont search on 25 November

Police will tomorrow (25 November 2025) return to Oak Park Station to continue the search for four-year-old Gus Lamont who was last seen on 27 September 2025.

www.police.sa.gov.au

Police will tomorrow (25 November 2025) return to Oak Park Station to continue the search for four-year-old Gus Lamont who was last seen on 27 September 2025.
The search, which is expected to last up to three days, will involve STAR Group officers and Task Force Horizon officers using specialised equipment to search six mine shafts in the area.

The uncovered and unfenced shafts are located between 5.5km and 12km from the Oak Park homestead in areas not searched on foot by police. Police were not previously aware of the location of these sites.

How were they not aware???

 

[spiritualdreaming]

How were they not aware???

One huge question I'd liked answered as well. Did LE just not ask? Did the family feel they didn't need to tell, if LE just didn't ask?? One would think with Oak Park being in the family for generations they would know of these uncovered and unfenced shafts...the mind certainly boogles imo

 

[Ellery84]

One huge question I'd liked answered as well. Did LE just not ask? Did the family feel they didn't need to tell, if LE just didn't ask?? One would think with Oak Park being in the family for generations they would know of these uncovered and unfenced shafts...the mind certainly boogles imo

Maybe SAPOL forgot to ask the family if there were any mineshafts on the property.

IMO

 

[_sleuthdog_]

My interpretation of the situation is that these shafts are beyond the initial search zone therefore potentially previously out of scope.

Not to say they shouldn’t have been aware previously.

IMO

 

[Hercule Holmes]

One huge question I'd liked answered as well. Did LE just not ask? Did the family feel they didn't need to tell, if LE just didn't ask?? One would think with Oak Park being in the family for generations they would know of these uncovered and unfenced shafts...the mind certainly boogles imo

Why would the family not mention them?

How did he walk at least 5.5km in one direction, leaving not a single sign?

Could he have got there before dark? Or, did he sleep and rest overnight and then continue his journey in the same direction, unnoticed by anyone, again leaving no signs the next morning? If he did this, did he not hear searchers or see a helicopter?

It's beginning to look like his journey had some assistance IMO.

 

[BreakingNews]

Why would the family not mention them?

How did he walk at least 5.5km in one direction, leaving not a single sign?

Could he have got there before dark? Or, did he sleep and rest overnight and then continue his journey in the same direction, unnoticed by anyone, again leaving no signs the next morning? If he did this, did he not hear searchers or see a helicopter?

It's beginning to look like his journey had some assistance IMO.

Please share what makes you think he had assistance on his journey?