Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[AmoryK]

Am I allowed to also add that the article says a source reports that Josh and Josie had a verbal spat 48 hours after Gus’s disappearance? It also says Jess moved out of Oak Park just before the Feb 5th press conference.


PLEASE POST A LINK TO THE ARTICLE

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Naturally that kind of thing was going to happen in this situation.

I'm sure Gus' papa reacted as anyone would have, when he had no choice but to trust the grandmothers with his son's safety and then this nightmare happened to his child.

Maybe he read (sensed) the truth right away?
IMO.

 

[AmoryK]

Naturally that kind of thing was going to happen in this situation.

I'm sure Gus' papa reacted as anyone would have, when he had no choice but to trust the grandmothers with his son's safety and then this nightmare happened to his child.

Maybe he read (sensed) the truth right away?
IMO.

Yes, maybe he did. Also, it’s possible that some aspect of the grandparents’ story was related to previous discussions Josh had had with them about safety, eg the lack of a fenced area for Gus to play, machinery left accessible, etc etc. That is, Josh had mentioned some concern before, which had been dismissed, and now here he was standing there with his son missing. This might have caused him to bring up previous safety concerns he’d had and accuse Josie of wrongly dismissing them - and now something bad had happened.

 

[GracefulD1an]

Yes, maybe he did. Also, it’s possible that some aspect of the grandparents’ story was related to previous discussions Josh had had with them about safety, eg the lack of a fenced area for Gus to play, machinery left accessible, etc etc. That is, Josh had mentioned some concern before, which had been dismissed, and now here he was standing there with his son missing. This might have caused him to bring up previous safety concerns he’d had and accuse Josie of wrongly dismissing them - and now something bad had happened.

I have suspected as much. I might not have grown up on a farm/ranch but I know the dangers of leaving farm equipment scattered around where kids can reach it. If that’s what happened and one of the grandparents buried the body somewhere then they could be charged with accidental death because of their lack of action towards keeping a child-safe area on the ranch/farm.

I can’t help but feel sorry for Gus’ mom because she probably reassured her ex that Gus was safe on the family’s ranch and now she has to live with the reminder that he told her terrible things would happen to their boys (which did happen to their elder son) and she, possibly, dismissed them.

 

[Ruminations]

Naturally that kind of thing was going to happen in this situation.

I'm sure Gus' papa reacted as anyone would have, when he had no choice but to trust the grandmothers with his son's safety and then this nightmare happened to his child.

Maybe he read (sensed) the truth right away?
IMO.

How would he have no choice? He is the father. He was part of the partnership determining how to raise Gus and his little brother.

At the very least, his sons could live with him half the time.

MOO

 

[su5ie]

I don’t think its fair to assume just from this picture that there is any issue between Gus and this dog. To me it is a sweet moment captured of Gus and the dog. Also, a lot of people own dogs - so it could be one from the station but my guess is it is a dog belonging to Jess/Josh, like one of the dogs mentioned previously that has been witnessed being walked by Josh, Jess and family in Adelaide. JMO.


Edit - I’ll also add that Kelpies are amazing dogs and aren’t known to be vicious and generally great with kids (having also had one myself)

I will also say if gus was harmed in an unfortunate dog attack , one would have no reason not to call for an ambulance or inform the mother of that child .

No matter the breed or known placid -ness , all breeds have been known to issue anything from a nip to the skin to a full on death attack . These accidents happen when you put two unpredictable entities together, children and animals .

However, I don't feel this was the case

if Gus's disappearance was at the hand of someone known to him and whatever happened even if accidental such as a spanking gone too far . The person covered it up because the person was in someway negligent and what they did was punishable by the law, hence the need to create a cover up story of a wandering

Imo jmo

 

[gerardo20]

How would he have no choice? He is the father. He was part of the partnership determining how to raise Gus and his little brother.

imo jmo moo omo

He would not be the first parent to have no choice in how his child is raised.

imo jmo moo omo

 

[Morequestionsthananswers]

There seems to be three options

1. Shannon
2. Josie
3. Shannon and Josie

 

[TLobo]

They've searched all around the houses and outbuildings, and with dogs, too, right? Can dogs be trained to alert to blood? I would think that any disturbed or stained surface or area would have been investigated, so does that mean that whatever foul play was involved with Gus, did not involve blood? What could that be - closed head injury, drowning in a scant amount of water (I know of a toddler who drowned in a 5 gallon bucket, for instance), hot car death?

Also trying to think of how the original account of the hours leading up to the reporting of Gus's disappearance was inaccurate, but in a way that Jess was unaware of its inaccuracy. It doesnt reflect well on either grandparent.

MOO

 

[Orbweaver]

They've searched all around the houses and outbuildings, and with dogs, too, right? Can dogs be trained to alert to blood? I would think that any disturbed or stained surface or area would have been investigated, so does that mean that whatever foul play was involved with Gus, did not involve blood? What could that be - closed head injury, drowning in a scant amount of water (I know of a toddler who drowned in a 5 gallon bucket, for instance), hot car death?

Also trying to think of how the original account of the hours leading up to the reporting of Gus's disappearance was inaccurate, but in a way that Jess was unaware of its inaccuracy. It doesnt reflect well on either grandparent.

MOO

This isn’t based on any personal experience other than having a background in biology and watching way too many true crime docs but I would think a cadaver dog would alert on human blood, especially as it decays. I’ve also seen several cases of cadaver dogs alerting to car trunks, etc. where only blood is left from a body previously being placed there.

I’d love to know if anyone here has any insight on the minimum time a body would need to stay in a fixed location for it to leave enough scent for a dog to detect.

 

[Morequestionsthananswers]

They've searched all around the houses and outbuildings, and with dogs, too, right? Can dogs be trained to alert to blood? I would think that any disturbed or stained surface or area would have been investigated, so does that mean that whatever foul play was involved with Gus, did not involve blood? What could that be - closed head injury, drowning in a scant amount of water (I know of a toddler who drowned in a 5 gallon bucket, for instance), hot car death?

Also trying to think of how the original account of the hours leading up to the reporting of Gus's disappearance was inaccurate, but in a way that Jess was unaware of its inaccuracy. It doesnt reflect well on either grandparent.

MOO

Shannon could’ve had the kids in the car that afternoon and been checking sheep for all we know and Gus died elsewhere.
Jmo

If Gus died earlier that afternoon it would mean Shannon would’ve had to lie to police and Jess about what her and the children had been doing all afternoon. It would’ve been fabricated. This could be where inconsistencies in the timeline come from. Just speculation Imo

I believe Jess and Josie were tending sheep that afternoon but that doesn’t mean they were together the whole time. Josie could’ve had a reason ,or made up a reason , why she was going back to the house for an hour or so. IMO

If this was an innocent accident such as drowning, dog attack, hot car, trampoline etc there is no reason to cover that up. You would call for help. For this reason, it makes sense that what ever happened is appalling because it has been covered up ..Imo

 

[Morequestionsthananswers]

South Australia police's bombshell announcement that investigators suspect Gus Lamont was killed – either deliberately or accidentally – by someone close to him was extraordinary and has created more questions. (via The Nightly)


Deliberately?

That conjures up two awful possibilities in my mind which could explain why the grandparents aren’t cooperating.
Don’t read this if you get upset easily.
JMO

1.Deliberately to cover up something that didn’t go to plan ? IMO

2.Deliberately because he was dying /euthanised ?
MOO

Number 2 …
SPECULATION
Shannon accidentally caused grievous bodily harm in a moment of anger and he was dying, she panicked and called Josie. Josie arrived at the scene then they both decided it has to be covered up so Josie put him out of his misery…
JMO

 

[AmoryK]

Behind Paywall

Can somebody summarize?

"Powerful hidden message in Gus Lamont's parents' statement:

Their agony is clear
- but something else is being said here."

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027364909957185831

Mods, apologies if I do this wrong (I can’t see how to edit my post above that you’ve blurred) but it was a response to the post I’ve quoted above and the following post, which is just above mine and refers to some things the article says. My post just added a couple of more things that same article said.

Here is the link as you requested:

Powerful hidden message in Gus Lamont's parents' statement

After months covering the case, I can see that these new images, and the parents' carefully chosen words, reveal something far more significant than a simply a plea for public assistance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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[Ellery84]

South Australia police's bombshell announcement that investigators suspect Gus Lamont was killed – either deliberately or accidentally – by someone close to him was extraordinary and has created more questions. (via The Nightly)

Where does it say in any source that police believe that Gus was killed?

 

[Hexe]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>

Wrong. The homestead belongs to Shannon Murray, Jess' bio mum.

 

[Morequestionsthananswers]

Where does it say in any source that police believe that Gus was killed?

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/major-clue-emerges-in-search-for-missing-fouryearold-gus-lamont/news-story/eab929f891bb3e595e93cb67d1f75ee1%3Famp&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiP3LCv7_uSAxW-d2wGHa0CImkQFnoECDsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Vz5XhBlF-m1y2iO0ezjRx

Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke said Gus may have been killed “deliberately or accidentally”.

 

[jepop]

Where does it say in any source that police believe that Gus was killed?

Feb 5 presser. Supt Fielke when questioned said police believe Gus is dead and answered in the affirmative the suspect is suspected of either deliberately or accidentally causing the death( they don't know which). Sorry, no access to presser link but it's up thread dated Feb 5.

 

[Bats]

Where does it say in any source that police believe that Gus was killed?

At around 31 minute mark.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/front-page-news/disappearance-of-gus-lamont-declared-a-major-crime

 

[BreakingNews]

I've never heard of anyone having the nickname Snow before. Is that perhaps a common or at least heard-of nickname there? The only time I've ever heard "Snow" being used as a "nickname" (of sorts) is as a slang term for cocaine. Unrelated here?

Sno is a very common nickname for a blonde person. Mostly for men. Blonde women are often referred to as Frosty. And to confuse everyone, Aussies also call a red headed person Blue.

 

[Kemug]

Whatever transpiŕes-, i dont see the grandmas being left in charge of Ronnie again.