Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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This is what I was thinking. If he had been playing outside there should have been footprints everywhere. I understand being the desert and very windy those footprints could have been blown away but I still find it very strange that they have only found 1 footprint and that one was 500kms away. Maybe they just aren't mentioning the ones in the immediate yard?

That would be 500 metres, not kilometres away. :)

I assume the searchers were referring to any footprints that would indicate where or which direction the wee boy had walked away from the sand pile. A light breeze would have wiped them away almost immediately.
 
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Interesting that they've never found his hat. Little kids lose those all the time, and I doubt he would have kept it on after sunset
 
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Just a general safety observation from a mining perspective


I’ll keep this careful because I don’t want to break any forum rules. Gus was reported to have been playing in the sand pile near the homestead, and from the aerial footage that area appears quite close to a well-used internal track on the property.

In mining, and even on larger agricultural operations, we’re very deliberate about separating pedestrians from vehicle movement, usually with clear demarcation and in higher-risk areas physical barriers. There’s a good reason for that. Larger vehicles, especially older LandCruisers and work utes, have limited visibility close to the vehicle, and the risk to small children can be extreme.

If that track was frequently used, especially around knock-off time when people are moving between jobs or sheds, it would be considered a very hazardous setup in an industrial environment. Not suggesting anything beyond that, just noting that from a safety standpoint it’s a configuration that carries significant risk.

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I don't feel comfortable sleuthing the family.
Is it sleuthing the family to just want to know who was around at the time he went missing? I think that is important information.

If Mom, and grandma and grandpa were all home at 5 pm, when he was outside playing alone---where was everyone?

I'm curious because I wondered if someone drove off and he wanted to try and follow?

What kind of transportation do they use besides cars/trucks?

Do they move around the area on 3 wheelers or motorbikes or anything?

I'm curious how they initially searched the area when they realised he was no longer playing on the dirt mound.
 
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"Alex Thomas, who grew up on a station 75km from Yunta, revealed to The Advertiser that the tragedy has shaken the entire rural community.

“It’s painful because of the trauma the situation is inflicting on one of our own, alongside those who know the family and the wider rural community,” she said.
“Anyone who’s ever lived on the land is feeling this pain because it could have been any of our children.”

She described Gus’ deep connection to the land, a place that may seem unforgiving to outsiders, but is familiar to those raised on it.
“For those not from the area, the landscape seems quite harsh, but for Gus – it’s this kid’s backyard.

“It might be a big backyard but he knows that place like the back of his little hands, not unlike his parents, and his parents’ parents; there’s a wisdom, a confidence and a know-how that comes with that generational upbringing.”

“Because this family – this gentle and loving family – they’re not headlines, they are not a spectacle.
“They are real people who are hurting beyond belief.” "

 
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This is what I was thinking. If he had been playing outside there should have been footprints everywhere. I understand being the desert and very windy those footprints could have been blown away but I still find it very strange that they have only found 1 footprint and that one was 500kms away. Maybe they just aren't mentioning the ones in the immediate yard?
500 metres
 
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Is it sleuthing the family to just want to know who was around at the time he went missing? I think that is important information.

If Mom, and grandma and grandpa were all home at 5 pm, when he was outside playing alone---where was everyone?

I'm curious because I wondered if someone drove off and he wanted to try and follow?

What kind of transportation do they use besides cars/trucks?

Do they move around the area on 3 wheelers or motorbikes or anything?

I'm curious how they initially searched the area when they realised he was no longer playing on the dirt mound.
I'm not sure the daughter-in-law was around until after Gus went missing. Otherwise why was Grandma taking the responsibility for Gus.
 
  • #650
Does anyone know if the driveway to the homestead where Gus was staying is five gates and 25km long, or is the closest road Oak Park Road which I believe is a public road just 200m away from the homestead.
To me that's an enormous difference and the scenarios of what happened to Gus would be hugely different. IMOO
 
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I work in mining and wanted to share a bit of context on what police might mean when they talk about the “special drone with infrared capabilities” and why they’ve said it could take weeks to analyse.

In our industry we use LiDAR and other survey tech to scan and compare terrain over time. Even a relatively small scan area produces a massive dataset, hundreds of millions of data points and sometimes hundreds of gigabytes in size. Once the point cloud is processed we can overlay it with previous scans or base survey data to detect subtle changes on the surface.

It’s incredibly accurate. You can pick up small depressions, new wheel tracks, compacted soil, or areas that have been dug or filled. When vegetation is sparse, like out there, the ground reads very cleanly. A few millimetres of change over a large area can be mapped out once the data is filtered and modelled.

That’s why it’s described as quite complex technology. They’re not talking about infrared to pick up heat signatures ten days later, that wouldn’t be useful now. What they’re doing is using multispectral or LiDAR-type imagery to look for disturbed earth or any physical surface change that doesn’t match the baseline.

The analysis takes time because every grid of data has to be reviewed, filtered, and compared. It’s slow detailed work but it can show things the human eye would never catch from the ground or a helicopter.

I’ve attached an example from a low precision LiDAR terrain scan I have been working on, not from the search area. Even at low resolution you can still make out roads, small depressions, and compacted areas. You can imagine how high resolution police data would reveal far more detail.

In simple terms they’re not searching for Gus directly with this drone tech, they’re scanning for evidence of disturbance, areas where the ground tells a story. Once that analysis is complete it could guide them to where to look next.

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Wow! Isn’t technology amazing now! Thanks so much for explaining, it’s really interesting
 
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The property looks pretty shambolic. Easy for a kid to crawl and hide, even if you think everything has been searched.

In cases where a body is discovered years after in a very close location - were cadaver dogs actually used? In the Daniel O’Keeffe case it sounds possible the police did not search the house in a thorough manner, for example. So I'm wondering - the chances of him being close by might be very low if dogs are being used to search, even if we can know examples this happening (since maybe in those cases dogs were not employed or used correctly).
 
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Does anyone know if the driveway to the homestead where Gus was staying is five gates and 25km long, or is the closest road Oak Park Road which I believe is a public road just 200m away from the homestead.
To me that's an enormous difference and the scenarios of what happened to Gus would be hugely different. IMOO
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Is it sleuthing the family to just want to know who was around at the time he went missing? I think that is important information.

If Mom, and grandma and grandpa were all home at 5 pm, when he was outside playing alone---where was everyone?

I'm curious because I wondered if someone drove off and he wanted to try and follow?

What kind of transportation do they use besides cars/trucks?

Do they move around the area on 3 wheelers or motorbikes or anything?

I'm curious how they initially searched the area when they realised he was no longer playing on the dirt mound.
no official word yet on if they have workers there, right? Not that I've seen or recall seeing but I'd be interested if so
I can't imagine the family just do it all on their own?

LE have reasons for releasing information when they do. Sometimes its for very good operational reasons. In countless cases where the public thought the police had nothing or were doing nothing, they knew everything all along. It can just take time to come together.
 
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I'll just add a comment about Oak Park Road. Where the homestead is it changes from a "minor road" to an "unmaintained/high clearance" road: the north-east side is the maintained part, and after about 15km meets Sturt Vale Road, bigger again. The south-west side of Oak Park Road goes to a network of tracks, some of them in a conservation area. According to Google Maps it does lead to other roads which take you back to the Barrier Highway, but I'm not sure how realistic that connection is. Road classifications are from Gaia GPS topological maps.
 
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I think its very strange that they have not found anything relating to Gus.

The lack of information being released is strange too IMO.

I would normally expect a relative or family friend to be speaking out but something seems off here.

If Gus simply wandered off I think he would have been found by now. <modsnip>


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three people have spoken to the media on behalf of the family
 
  • #658
I don't believe it's daughter in law, rather daughter.

Reading between the lines of this article, Gus's father doesn't live on that property.

Mr O’Connell said he and his partner were joined in the search on Monday night by Gus’ father.
“It pretty much devastated him. (It’s) his little boy and he’s pretty close to his son,” he said.
The Advertiser attended the home of Gus’s father on Monday.
A neighbour said the family were still “up north” on the property where Gus disappeared and were “nice people”.
“He (Gus) was a nice young kid,” they said.
“I’ve known them all for years, the parents, the grandparents.
“They’re nice people.”

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news...s/news-story/4777b52044cf8765c2e32419d1af7440

In this 7 news article it is stated that Gus's mum and grandparent's were at the property at the time Gus went missing.

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The Advertiser published a story and mentioned maternal grandmother's name.

Left alone for just half an hour, he was gone by the time his grandmother, Shannon, returned about 5.30pm. The sun was sinking fast, slipping below the horizon at 6.16pm, and panic set in.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news...k/news-story/12c43101ab44e0371728513b5be78cfc
 
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We don't know how large the families are on both the mother's and father's sides. If both are only children, so there are no aunts or uncles, there may be nobody who could speak to the media - assuming the police have not asked them not to do so. We know there is one grandparent but the others may also be out of the picture for one reason or another.

As to friends, it may well be that friends are from a similar background and situation - geographically distant and not in a position to comment on an on-the-ground situation possibly hundreds of miles away.

there have been three people who've spoken on behalf of the family
 
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Is it sleuthing the family to just want to know who was around at the time he went missing? I think that is important information.

If Mom, and grandma and grandpa were all home at 5 pm, when he was outside playing alone---where was everyone?
Did mum, grandma and grandpa all see Gus playing in the sand because that is very important information?
 

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