Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #681
  • #682
that's a good point, would sheep dogs follow Gus and try to 'herd' him home?
No. They are kept in cages for the high majority. These animals are not “pets”
They are working dogs.
They don’t wander, they follow commands by their owners.
 
  • #683
New to this case.. haven’t done research yet, but wondering if anyone knows why this little guy lived with his grandparents ? Was he fostered to them after taken from his parents by the system?

As I said, haven’t done any research just have a suspicion that maybe he’s with his parents and this is a cover up. Given the fact there is absolutely no trace at all, just my gut feeling.
 
  • #684
New to this case.. haven’t done research yet, but wondering if anyone knows why this little guy lived with his grandparents ? Was he fostered to them after taken from his parents by the system?

As I said, haven’t done any research just have a suspicion that maybe he’s with his parents and this is a cover up. Given the fact there is absolutely no trace at all, just my gut feeling.
I doubt if anyone knows who was on the property at the time Gus disappeared, or what relationships are like in the household, three friends have been in touch with the media and basically said everyone should just go away and mind their own business so the family can grieve in peace, we don't know if Gus's mother and father helped a great deal or at all in the search and we don't know if their driveway is 25kms long with six gates as stated by police or 250m long and no gates as stated by Google.
And in a nutshell that's brought you up to speed...so you haven't missed out on anything really.
If you do find out what's going on then you could please let us all know.
 
  • #685
I doubt if anyone knows who was on the property at the time Gus disappeared, or what relationships are like in the household, three friends have been in touch with the media and basically said everyone should just go away and mind their own business so the family can grieve in peace, we don't know if Gus's mother and father helped a great deal or at all in the search and we don't know if their driveway is 25kms long with six gates as stated by police or 250m long and no gates as stated by Google.
And in a nutshell that's brought you up to speed...so you haven't missed out on anything really.
If you do find out what's going on then you could please let us all know.
Sadly, I think this may be very much like the William Tyrell case. Nothing is made public because of the laws around kids in foster care.. meaning not much information and lots of un answered questions.
I do hope I’m wrong, but it is giving me those vibes for sure
 
  • #686
Sheep dogs can hear a car from a mile away, maybe 2 miles is stretching the imagination, but that's where I was coming from with all this business about the distance to the closest public road.
I don't think it has ever been reported about their own sheep dogs, that's if they had any. I would have thought they would have been around the house. My dogs would be, but maybe the dogs have their own housing. However those sheep dogs would not have stayed quiet had a car arrived.
 
  • #687
I doubt if anyone knows who was on the property at the time Gus disappeared, or what relationships are like in the household, three friends have been in touch with the media and basically said everyone should just go away and mind their own business so the family can grieve in peace, we don't know if Gus's mother and father helped a great deal or at all in the search and we don't know if their driveway is 25kms long with six gates as stated by police or 250m long and no gates as stated by Google.
And in a nutshell that's brought you up to speed...so you haven't missed out on anything really.
If you do find out what's going on then you could please let us all know.

Re people/friends talking on behalf of the family...

I'm always very sceptical.

I cannot count how many times I read reports of neighbours' reactions:
"Oh,
we are all shocked.
He/She was such a nice person,
always said Hello."

Really,
nobody knows what is happening behind closed doors of other people's homes.

Just My General Opinion.
 
  • #688
New to this case.. haven’t done research yet, but wondering if anyone knows why this little guy lived with his grandparents ? Was he fostered to them after taken from his parents by the system?

As I said, haven’t done any research just have a suspicion that maybe he’s with his parents and this is a cover up. Given the fact there is absolutely no trace at all, just my gut feeling.

His mother was at the home at the time he went missing. That's all that's been said regarding his parents I think?
 
  • #689
There are some dogs that look like kelpies (working dogs) near the farmhouse in the last bit of this video at approximately 1:35

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They might not have been near the house at the time Gus allegedly disappeared though, often they are used by farmers to help with sheep work. They could have been kilometres away helping other family members on the property.
Or in their kennels for the evening. Working dogs are usually not left to roam.
 
  • #690
Sadly, I think this may be very much like the William Tyrell case. Nothing is made public because of the laws around kids in foster care.. meaning not much information and lots of un answered questions.
I do hope I’m wrong, but it is giving me those vibes for sure
Have you seen anything in msm about Gus being in foster care, or is this entirely your own opinion? Would explain why Grandma took responsibility, and not the Mum.
 
  • #691
His mother was at the home at the time he went missing. That's all that's been said regarding his parents I think?

Also,
in my earlier DM link
it was stated Father helped during night search.

PS
I found it:

"Jen and I were the only ones searching nights,
apart from Monday night the father joined us,
and we would head home when main search crews arrived through the day."

 
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  • #692
No. They are kept in cages for the high majority. These animals are not “pets”
They are working dogs.
They don’t wander, they follow commands by their owners.
Kept in cages, really. I didn't know that. The only working dogs I know of had also been kept as pets. Working dogs are part of the family. I would have thought at least one dog would have been a house dog.
 
  • #693
I just wanted to post a quick summary of key info IMO, as posted to date in this thread by various sleuthers from various media links:

1. Gus lived on the property with his grandparents.

2. Grandma last saw Gus at 5pm Saturday 27th September 2025 playing on a sand/dirt heap.

3. Grandma could not find Gus at 5,30 pm.

4. Family searched for 3 hrs until 8.30 pm before alerting police.

5. Police arrived about 9.30pm to assist the search.

6. A police helicopter was over the property from around 11.30pm aiding the search with thermal imaging.

7. In the following days up to 50 ppl assisted with search on the ground including search and rescue and defence personnel, search dogs and some belated tracker involvement.

8. The search yielded no sign or trace of Gus whatsoever, just one single footprint considered Gus’ but which may have been from before Gus went missing.

9. On Friday the on the ground search was called off, but some high definition infrared drone scanning took place Friday and Saturday which is being analysed but may take up to 2 weeks to yield useful info (if at all).

10. Media have mentioned Gus’ mum was also at the property with grandparents at the time Gus went missing.

11. Media have mentioned Gus’ dad lives in Adelaide but was at the property on Monday assisting with the search.

The last two points suggest that the property may belong to Gus’ maternal grand parents but that is inferred.

I don’t mean to be sleuthing the victims here - just trying to set out the key info available via various media so far IMO and thought it might assist others.

It would be helpful if media published a timeline and known facts which they sometimes do in these situations.

How many missing child cases of this nature is the ground search called off after 6 days? And only 50 searchers deployed to cover such a vast area?

I realise he’s unlikely to have survived for many days, but I think he still deserves to be found, family and friends including Gus friends deserve closure, and perhaps important evidence might be found.

This lack of evident searching effort really bothers me but I’m not experienced in following these cases, perhaps it’s normal? Any stats or comparisons to other search efforts, do they go on for weeks or is it typical to call it off after about a week?

Sorry for long post had to get that off my chest.

All opinion only.
 
  • #694
All I can tell you is it defies all of your common sense, but it is absolutely true. In a case near my home a woman with dementia went missing from her home and police setup a command center in a nearby parking lot where they walked back and forth to the search area- after 2 days they found her lying in the ditch that surrounded that same parking lot wearing a bright red sweater. She was never more than 100' from her front door and they were walking within feet of her for 2 days.
This totally blows my mind
 
  • #695
To get from Adelaide to Oak Park Station Google maps says the route to take is to go up to Yunta and then down Sturt Vale Road and turn right onto Oak Park Road.
A few 100 metres from that turn off is Tiverton Station and buildings of that station are on either side of the road.
I would say cars along Oak Park Road are pretty rare. it would be interesting to ask Tiverton Station if anyone saw a car going along the road in either direction the afternoon/evening Gus disappeared.

Going out to Barrier Hwy the other way along Oak Park Rd is a quicker route to Adelaide but it must be very sandy and would take longer. The only sign of life going out that way is Grampus about half way along so cars might be going there from Yunta.
 
  • #696
I just wanted to post a quick summary of key info IMO, as posted to date in this thread by various sleuthers from various media links:

1. Gus lived on the property with his grandparents.

2. Grandma last saw Gus at 5pm Saturday 27th September 2025 playing on a sand/dirt heap.

3. Grandma could not find Gus at 5,30 pm.

4. Family searched for 3 hrs until 8.30 pm before alerting police.

5. Police arrived about 9.30pm to assist the search.

6. A police helicopter was over the property from around 11.30pm aiding the search with thermal imaging.

7. In the following days up to 50 ppl assisted with search on the ground including search and rescue and defence personnel, search dogs and some belated tracker involvement.

8. The search yielded no sign or trace of Gus whatsoever, just one single footprint considered Gus’ but which may have been from before Gus went missing.

9. On Friday the on the ground search was called off, but some high definition infrared drone scanning took place Friday and Saturday which is being analysed but may take up to 2 weeks to yield useful info (if at all).

10. Media have mentioned Gus’ mum was also at the property with grandparents at the time Gus went missing.

11. Media have mentioned Gus’ dad lives in Adelaide but was at the property on Monday assisting with the search.

The last two points suggest that the property may belong to Gus’ maternal grand parents but that is inferred.

I don’t mean to be sleuthing the victims here - just trying to set out the key info available via various media so far IMO and thought it might assist others.

It would be helpful if media published a timeline and known facts which they sometimes do in these situations.

How many missing child cases of this nature is the ground search called off after 6 days? And only 50 searchers deployed to cover such a vast area?

I realise he’s unlikely to have survived for many days, but I think he still deserves to be found, family and friends including Gus friends deserve closure, and perhaps important evidence might be found.

This lack of evident searching effort really bothers me but I’m not experienced in following these cases, perhaps it’s normal? Any stats or comparisons to other search efforts, do they go on for weeks or is it typical to call it off after about a week?

Sorry for long post had to get that off my chest.

All opinion only.
Thank you for this. I did not know about number 6 and number 10
 
  • #697
that's a good point, would sheep dogs follow Gus and try to 'herd' him home?

That's a fair question.
If they're Kelpies, which someone else mentioned, these dogs would not be kennelled imo, perhaps only at night. They would go stir crazy if kennelled as they need constant stimulation and exercise. Normally on these outback farms, dogs, pets and/or working, would be free to roam. Kelpies make wonderful pets, are friendly and are highly intelligent, my daughter has two.
They do herd, yes, even herd the kids, flies, other dogs etc but ONLY if they are bored, or haven't been on a massively long walk (they're literally on the go all day long!) They need a JOB to do!
In the video another poster shared I think we can see Kelpies, so I'd imagine these farm dogs are getting plenty of exercise and stimulation, whatever breed they are.
As far as we know, one of the dogs didn't disappear, so I doubt they tried to herd Gus home.
 
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  • #698
Sheep dogs can hear a car from a mile away, maybe 2 miles is stretching the imagination, but that's where I was coming from with all this business about the distance to the closest public road.

It's perfectly easy for a person to hear a car a mile away in the outback. There's literally no other noise pollution.
 
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