Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Ellery84]

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Video in the Daily Mail article shows that it is not just flat land

Missing boy Gus' grandparents break their silence: 'Clashes'

The little boy vanished almost two weeks ago after playing in the yard of remote Oak Park homestead in the harsh South Australian outback, 300km north of Adelaide.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ohhhh they do have working dogs on the property.

 

[Ellery84]

Maybe the father just didn't want to live with the inlaws.

Seems many people wouldn't, even if they did get on with them.

Why is that?

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Why is that?

Possibly for a variety of reasons.

- The person who marries in may end up being outnumbered in any dispute. The inside person they marry may choose to side with their parents over their spouse.
- Issues over status. The older generation may retain legal ownership of the property which may be protected by a family trust which means the one marrying in has no legal protection but is expected to work on the property effectively for keep.

Etc.

 

[kiwi50]

Wow so the lady I was asking about in the pictures is his grandparent.

I mentioned “grandad” this morning, but my post was deleted.
I still don’t understand why the family took so long to release a photo of Gus, even more so, now we know about the complicated relationships within the family

 

[Ellery84]

The recent revelations about the grandmother's partner have brought back to me something which struck me when the photo of Gus was first released, which is that I immediately thought I was looking at a photo of Jon-Benet Ramsey. Gus appears to be a very "girlie" looking boy, so are his mother and grandmother attempting to raise him as a girl?

Oh so just because the grandparent is trans, you're thinking that Gus has been raised as a girl?

Why would you assume that? The child is not trans, the grandparent is trans.

Does Gus not look masculine enough to pass as a "boy?"

My grandson has a child at his kindy who is a boy with long hair. He tells me that boys can have long hair and girls can have short hair. He is very smart for a four year old.

 

[Sarahlou]

Is it known when anyone other than family saw Gus last? I can't remember reading it but thought I might have missed something.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

"It is understood Mr Lamont only found out his child was missing when police woke him up at his home, hours after Gus had vanished."

If this is true, as a dad this is horrifying. I can’t imagine being asleep while my four year old was missing and no one called me. It raises a million questions about the timeline for me. Who knew what, when, and why it took police knocking on the door for the father to find out.

I don't know how many hours after Gus went missing before his father was notified, but it does state that he was asleep at the time. This suggests to me that he may be a shift worker, if it was only after 2/3/4 hours or that it was more than 4 he might just be asleep during somewhat "regular" hours. Either way, he was asleep at the time. I imagine he must have had his phone on silent or do not disturb, requiring police to visit him to break the news. The family may have called him several times without getting an answer, and it seems to me that it must have been at least 3 hours - the timeframe it took to call police - before police in Adelaide were notified to do a welfare check/breaking the news visit. (I'm assuming that's how he came to know?) That seems a long time before notifying a parent, especially one that wasn't estranged, even if they tried calling many times.

 

[Lucy.D]

Why is that?

Good question @Ellery84 and your next question as well. It's a dreadful thing that we can't be who we are in Australia without being condemned.
I would encourage the grandparents to speak out, be brave, get help searching and anyone being hurtful or disrespectful will have the dogs set on them. Only joking about the dogs, but it can be a time like this when instead of staying as private as possible to face the public.
Of course, there's going to be haters but we're supposed to stand up for tolerance and acceptance in Australia and Gus's grandparents have done nothing to be ashamed of. Those haters are out to get anyone and it's time they were put back into their box or cage where they came from.
It might help just get this little bloke back to them and then they can grieve in private, if he's deceased of course. And I think little Gus would like to be found and want to be proud of his grandparents for standing up for him. And that's JMO

 

[Ellery84]

Good question @Ellery84 and your next question as well. It's a dreadful thing that we can't be who we are in Australia without being condemned.
I would encourage the grandparents to speak out, be brave, get help searching and anyone being hurtful or disrespectful will have the dogs set on them. Only joking about the dogs, but it can be a time like this when instead of staying as private as possible to face the public.
Of course, there's going to be haters but we're supposed to stand up for tolerance and acceptance in Australia and Gus's grandparents have done nothing to be ashamed of. Those haters are out to get anyone and it's time they were put back into their box or cage where they came from.
It might help just get this little bloke back to them and then they can grieve in private, if he's deceased of course. And I think little Gus would like to be found and want to be proud of his grandparents for standing up for him. And that's JMO

There is absolutely no link between Gus going missing and the gender identity of his grandparent.

It seems inappropriate for the Daily Mail to have outed the gender of the grandparent.

It will do nothing but encourage hate and transphobic remarks when the family is grieving and trying to find their child.

 

[Lucy6226]

The recent revelations about the grandmother's partner have brought back to me something which struck me when the photo of Gus was first released, which is that I immediately thought I was looking at a photo of Jon-Benet Ramsey. Gus appears to be a very "girlie" looking boy, so are his mother and grandmother attempting to raise him as a girl?

He is 4, how masculine do you need him to be? FYI Boys can have long hair, play with dolls and like pink.

I mentioned “grandad” this morning, but my post was deleted.
I still don’t understand why the family took so long to release a photo of Gus, even more so, now we know about the complicated relationships within the family

Think you mean grandma's female partner. Both grandparents are female.

 

[Lucy6226]

There is absolutely no link between Gus going missing and the gender identity of his grandparent.

It seems inappropriate for the Daily Mail to have outed the gender of the grandparent.

It will do nothing but encourage hate and transphobic remarks when the family is grieving and trying to find their child.

Which is exactly why the family were trying to keep this private as possible

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Oh so just because the grandparent is trans, you're thinking that Gus has been raised as a girl?

The question occurred to me. Is that not what we are here for - to ask questions and discuss possibilities?

Why would you assume that? The child is not trans, the grandparent is trans.

Does Gus not look masculine enough to pass as a "boy?"

As I said, when the photo was first published, ie long before any mention of trans, Gus immediately reminded me of a (dead) 6 year old beauty queen.

My grandson has a child at his kindy who is a boy with long hair. He tells me that boys can have long hair and girls can have short hair. He is very smart for a four year old.

Of course hair length is not specifically a gender issue and fashions and trends change over time. However, the trend in the UK has for many years been for girls to have long hair and boys very short, often buzz-cut, hair and that is the context of my comment. It is currently rare here to see a girl (or indeed any woman under about 50) with short hair or boys and men with long hair.

 

[Ellery84]

Which is exactly why the family were trying to keep this private as possible

That makes sense. It's going to be a circus moving forward.

I wish the family had not spoken to the Daily Mail reporter.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

That makes sense. It's going to be a circus moving forward.

I wish the family had not spoken to the Daily Mail reporter.

Daily Mail are the worst. There was no need for them to report that fact.

 

[Sarahlou]

This line of discussion will get the thread closed. Gus' hair length doesn't have anything to do with anything.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

The question occurred to me. Is that not what we are here for - to ask questions and discuss possibilities?

As I said, when the photo was first published, ie long before any mention of trans, Gus immediately reminded me of a (dead) 6 year old beauty queen.

Of course hair length is not specifically a gender issue and fashions and trends change over time. However, the trend in the UK has for many years been for girls to have long hair and boys very short, often buzz-cut, hair and that is the context of my comment. It is currently rare here to see a girl (or indeed any woman under about 50) with short hair or boys and men with long hair.

Quite the opposite where I live. Heaps of young boys have long hair

 

[drsleuth]

There is absolutely no link between Gus going missing and the gender identity of his grandparent.

It seems inappropriate for the Daily Mail to have outed the gender of the grandparent.

It will do nothing but encourage hate and transphobic remarks when the family is grieving and trying to find their child.

I agree. What value does it add to a missing little boy case?? Do they love little Gus less?

The vitriol / blaming I have seen on SM before they were identified is disgusting. Nothing like kicking people at there worst time.

 

[Ellery84]

Daily Mail are the worst. There was no need for them to report that fact.

Absolutely no need. Shame on the Daily Mail, Reporter Karleigh Smith and Editor Felicity Hetherington.

Reporting is supposed to help people. Imagine getting gossipy and tabloidy when a 4 year old child is missing and possibly dead. It's shameful.

 

[Lucy.D]

@MelmothTheLost as you are a volunteer investigator with Locate International, I would be very interested in your thoughts about how you think the investigation into finding Gus has gone so far and would you have done anything differently.

With your Locate experience and being on here for 9 years I thought you may have some useful insight, experience or knowledge of carrying out a search to find a missing 4 year old such as Gus. Only if you want to, of course

 

[Longtimelurker1]

They reportedly searched for about 3 hours before calling the police. The article mentions that Gus’s parents are still a couple, just living apart. It’s strange the mum didn’t reach out to the dad during those 3 hours..

Do we know that the property has good phone coverage?

Or that the father’s property has coverage?