Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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Is it really that bad having someone knock on your door a couple of times?
I live in a country town and yes people here don't like door knockers compared to larger towns I lived for example. To blow up about it and make a big deal about a simple question or two is also not the country way.
Just say "no, if I do want to talk leave me your card, if not please don't come back again or any future talk is off the table" or something similar.
I don't get how people are making out like it's a big deal.
The problem is that the reporters (or "reporters") don't respect this and quietly leave, as most people would do. They're right back at it pounding on the door in five minutes, or at best the next day. On top of that, it isn't a normal tap two or three times. They pound, and I mean POUND on the door, then shout questions through it loudly when it doesn't open, so ignoring the knocking is incredibly difficult to do. It would also be different if it was just a single media outfit, or even two, but when it gets to ten or twenty of them, and it often does, I can see where people might get agitated. Add all this on top of the distress families experience from the original incident, crime, whatever, and I think that's what people are reacting to. MOO
 
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I also wouldn’t like having to wonder if a photographer will be at my fence today trying to get a picture of me walking to my car, taking the bin out, doing yard work, scratching my arse…. even after I have said I wasn’t interested (multiple times).

So yeah let’s say they have knocked a few times, asked for comment a few times, but the answer is still no. How many more times of the same knocks and no’s is okay with you until you think it is not okay? Is now enough times or will you be okay with this over and over again. Where’s the line?

Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree about the DM harassment. It’s not helping finding Gus IMO, but I know Josh will think this is harassment and he won’t care what we think about it.
 
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I’m surprised that you’re the only one to comment about the importance of the timing of shearing.
IMO at the beginning the family seemed certain that the explanation for Gus’ disappearance was wandering, possibly because theres no reason for anyone to drive close to the homestead unless visiting (as posted by zesszesszess). Wandering and getting lost did seem the most likely reason but I’m not so sure about that now because theres no evidence of that happening. IMO infrared would’ve found him, or birds of prey would’ve led trackers to where he perished.
The family would still be looking for their little boy everyday .
Hopefully now the shearer’s are being more closely looked at. The police probably know more than they’re letting on.


zesszesszess gave some local insight;
Shearing usually occurs in early Spring, before the weather warms up. It's almost always outsourced. Most stations have 'shearers quarters' - an area or building in which shearers can camp/stay while they're at a property. There are only a handful of shearing mobs in the region, and most properties build a business relationship with one of them - using only them.

There's no reason for anyone to drive anywhere close to the Oak Park homestead itself, unless they are there to visit.

It's not uncommon for people from surrounding stations to use minor tracks that traverse the periphery of the Oak Park property, however, to get to other portions of their own properties. For instance, the quickest way to get from the Tiverton homestead to the Tiverton outstation is via a road that cuts through the eastern edge of Oak Park.

I also see 2 other important timings IMO

- Sports Grand Finale
- fast approaching date of starting school in a place far from the property.

(Plus the timing of shearing mentioned in quoted post.)

3 interesting sets of circumstances.

Are any of them relevant? 🤔

JMO
 
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Is it really that bad having someone knock on your door a couple of times?
I live in a country town and yes people here don't like door knockers compared to larger towns I lived for example. To blow up about it and make a big deal about a simple question or two is also not the country way.
Just say "no, if I do want to talk leave me your card, if not please don't come back again or any future talk is off the table" or something similar.
I don't get how people are making out like it's a big deal.
Because this family is grieving. Unless we hear otherwise they are the victims in all this along with Gus. LE have told media to stay away. Family friends have told the media to stay away. And now the family have repeatedly told media to stay away.
Turning up on someone's door in a city or town, is nothing like making a long rough journey to the homestead. As soon as anyone drives though your front entrance, it's like being in the lounge room of a city person. (This is how an Aboriginal Elder described it to me many years ago).
It's been widely noted that they are cooperating with police and have asked for privacy. DM have gone over these boundaries time and time again. It is so disrespectful.
 
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DBM
 
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I don’t believe this has been substantiated. There’s nothing to confirm father has chosen the school without input from mother.

According to reports in DM
(with links already provided)
the family (parents, 2 children)
were to move to Jamestown
to a place bought and decorated by Josh.
Close to a school chosen for Gus.

This matter was discussed in the thread previously.

One of the links from October:
(But now behind a paywall)

 
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- fast approaching date of starting school in a place far from the property.
Most schools in this area are going to be some distance from people’s houses. Unless you live right next door to school there will generally be a commute of some kind. I don’t think this is relevant. IMO.

According to reports in DM
(with links already provided)
the family (parents, 2 children)
were to move to Jamestown
to a place bought and decorated by Josh.
Close to a school chosen for Gus.

I believe the property in question Belalie North. The school options are most likely Jamestown or Peterborough. Both are some distance from Belalie North. Peterborough being closer to Yunta.

I don’t believe it is reported that Gus was definitely to attend Jamestown, unless I missed it.
 
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Most schools in this area are going to be some distance from people’s houses. Unless you live right next door to school there will generally be a commute of some kind. I don’t think this is relevant. IMO.



I believe the property in question Belalie North. The school options are most likely Jamestown or Peterborough. Both are some distance from Belalie North. Peterborough being closer to Yunta.

I don’t believe it is reported that Gus was definitely to attend Jamestown, unless I missed it.

The details don't really matter IMO.
The most important fact reported
was that the family was allegedly to move places.

All 3 sets of circumstances I mentioned above were significant,
out-of-everyday routine.

And Gus vanished within these timings.

Are they relevant?
IDK.

But they immediately caught my sleuth's attention 🤔

JMO
 
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Gus was to attend Peterborough Primary School, wasn’t he?


It’s an hours drive from Yunta or 31 minutes from Jamestown.

I wouldn’t like to start a 5 year old off at school with a two hour bus trip each day.

That’s just me. I would be too anxious, and prefer to drive the child 30 minutes each way.

IMO

Reception year is exhausting for kids without adding a 2 hour bus trip every day.
 

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Gus was to attend Peterborough Primary School, wasn’t he?

https://peterboroughps.sa.edu.au/

It’s an hours drive from Yunta or 31 minutes from Jamestown.

I wouldn’t like to start a 5 year old off at school with a two hour bus trip each day.

That’s just me. I would be too anxious, and prefer to drive the child 30 minutes each way.

IMO

Reception year is exhausting for kids without adding a 2 hour bus trip every day.

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Taking longer drives and bus rides etc to get kids to and from school is pretty normal for remote areas and is the reality.

According to Google Maps, Belalie North is approx 20min from Peterborough and 15min from Jamestown.
 
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And way more sophisticated than we could ever imagine.
Agree. A good friend of mine is on the Iowa task force for child trafficking. It’s scary how it happens right under peoples noses. And in small communities too. She’s running for Senate and I hope she gets in. She’s a strong advocate
 
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The details don't really matter IMO.
The most important fact reported
was that the family was allegedly to move places.

All 3 sets of circumstances I mentioned above were significant,
out-of-everyday routine.

And Gus vanished within these timings.

Are they relevant?
IDK.

But they immediately caught my sleuth's attention 🤔

JMO
Just trying to think of logical explanations. Moving could be a relevant factor if a perpetrator knew Gus would be leaving Oak Park in the near future.
Grand Final Day can keep footy fans glued to the tv and be a big drinking day, perhaps giving someone a chance to get out and about without anyone knowing
IMO
 
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Grand Final Day can keep footy fans glued to the tv and be a big drinking day, perhaps giving someone a chance to get out and about without anyone knowing
IMO

RSBM

Or
the boy could have been accidentally hit by a drunk driver and the body hidden.
Cover-up.

JMO
 
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Why haven't images of the clothes and shoes Gus was wearing (i.e. store catalog images) or an image of the shovel Gus was playing with been published by LE with a plea to be on the look out?

If Gus was abducted he could still be alive. And he could still be wearing the same clothes (or sometimes wear them if they're being washed) or they could have been disposed of somewhere.

And Gus' shovel could be with him, on the side of the road, in a trash pile, in a child's play area, etc.

Just a bit dumbfounded. IMO.
 
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Taking longer drives and bus rides etc to get kids to and from school is pretty normal for remote areas and is the reality.

According to Google Maps, Belalie North is approx 20min from Peterborough and 15min from Jamestown.
Ok so you’re asserting that moving to Belalie North was not the plan for Gus for 2026?
 
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Ok so you’re asserting that moving to Belalie North was not the plan for Gus for 2026?

If school starts in January
the moving should be much earlier.
All preparations,
submitting documents, medical checks, vaccination, etc.

Starting school is associated with many administrative formalities.

( I should know, I'm a teacher ;) )

JMO
 
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According to the last official presser, as detailed in earlier discussion Imo, Task Force Horizon, using the combined expertise of their members, are assessing the possibility of further tailored searches on the property.

This indicates to me, in conjunction with the continued statement "no evidence of foul play", that the task force believe it is very likely Gus is out there on the property. Jmo. Lost persons, especially small ones, can be missed. The searches have been phenomenal but the searchers and the tech used are not infallible! Moo.

The terrain is not sand flats! It is undulating, rugged, creviced in parts, very challenging ( as referenced by numerous reports on the search area).Moo

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The way I see it
NO evidence AT ALL was found.
Evidence of anything.

Only one footprint, not even sure when left.

Is there evidence of wandering off found?
No article of clothing,
no shovel, no hat, no shoe found.

Dogs didn't find scent.

The boy vanished without trace :(

JMO
 
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Why haven't images of the clothes and shoes Gus was wearing (i.e. store catalog images) or an image of the shovel Gus was playing with been published by LE with a plea to be on the look out?

The police published a picture of Gus' shirt - I can't remember when. But it was re-published in the below link on 30th September.

Do we know if Gus took the shovel with him, or if it was left behind? I can't recall anything other than he was last seen playing with his shovel in the sand.


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