Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

  • #3,601
I sit in the Gus has had an accident camp but I wouldn't be totally surprised if someone related or close took him and is caring for him.
Though I can think of countless arguments against this.
I feel the hiding part could be done, it's more the why that makes it seem very doubtful.
Would be a great scenario though in the end for Gus.
I have no strong personal thoughts on what happened to Gus at all. I just shake my head and wonder what happened.
 
  • #3,602
I don't know the legalities of this theory, but what if police are not actually expecting to find Gus. Maybe they are trying to rule out every possibility of finding him. Then maybe they can hit someone up with circumstantial evidence and lay charges. AMOO. I'm just trying to make some sense of all this.

Justice for Gus!

I think that from the moment the police declared Gus' disappearance a recovery mission, the investigators (and especially the commanders) would have been very aware that there will be an inquest at some point in time. And all police and search actions would need to be exhibited to a Coroner.

(Of course, unless Gus is found alive somewhere, then no inquest is necessary.)

imo
 
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  • #3,603
I honestly think it's most likely that Gus is alive somewhere, although it's a stretch.

If he was in the area that has been searched so far, and had just wandered off by himself, he would have passed away. My thinking is that the smell would have been noticed, so surely he can't be near the house?

Well, either alive, or he has been taken by someone and has passed away further from the station.

I haven't kept up with this investigation after it hit about a month, as you can probably see by the amount of messages I have sent, so I caught myself up yesterday, but if this has already been questioned, I have forgotten.

I'm also thinking he wouldn't have wandered off far if he did, as dinner would have been ready soon. I did entertain the theory of what if he was following the sunset, but again, he surely wouldn't leave knowing he would have food soon. Is there a possibility that he wandered far enough that a vehicle/person would not have been properly noticed taking him? Not from a rural area (especially the dusty outback) so don't know how far that would be and if Gus could have walked that distance though.

imo
 
  • #3,604
Keep going even after the discouragement
An answer is within one way or another

Still don't understand, the sheer size of the farm/estate that no agricultural machinery cultivating harvesting, no watering, and such dry land with small amount of sheep.
Hello @quiz,
What is there to 'harvest'?
Saltbush?
Nah!
The sheep🐑 do that quite well.
Tumbleweed? Not a big market for that, shame really, Aussies could make a motza if there was, there's so much of the b-stuff....
Yet it has been said two of the farm occupants were 10 km away attending to sheep.....
  1. Why?
  1. Cause the primary agricultural concern for these station-owners is sheep🐑 *harvesting* & she🐑eps😉 & all associated hoo-har - fences, etc., need attention at various times throughout the duration of the 🐑s life-cycle.
In case you're not familiar with the little critters @quiz, endlessly fascinating, includes a 🐑sound sample as well, read: Sheep.

*Why* do you think @quiz - share your deepest/darkest with us please?

I guess I could B🐑🐑🐑 but I'll share my regular M🐄🐄🐄s
 
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  • #3,605
Thank you for this.

If Bob thinks Gus is alive, well now, that'd throw a wrench in to things. If I were investigating this puzzle, I'd surely want to speak with Bob.
Or he might have just thought he'd get more people interesting in helping search, if they were looking for a little boy, instead of a body.
 
  • #3,606
Or he might have just thought he'd get more people interesting in helping search, if they were looking for a little boy, instead of a body.
That’s a very good point.
 
  • #3,607
Keep going even after the discouragement
An answer is within one way or another

Still don't understand, the sheer size of the farm/estate that no agricultural machinery cultivating harvesting, no watering, and such dry land with small amount of sheep. Yet it has been said two of the farm occupants were 10 km away attending to sheep.....

Why?

I don't understand why you ask why?
 
  • #3,608
My guess is that it is another way of saying:

"That little boy deserves the search and investigation to go in the proper direction".

Now presuming the DM accurately quoted him, what Mr. Boland implied by his statement? and why he felt obliged to say it? are my big questions....

ETA: formatting
I've thought about this again tonight.
This was shortly before the gun incident and got list on here.
I think what Mr Boland is implying/saying is he had a strong opinion after his search for tracks which was dismissed by the police. I'm fairly certain he is implying that he believes Gus didn't wander off. I guess the police told him he can't say anything but he is keen on one day telling the story of how he saw the right road to take in this investigation and the police went down the other road.
We don't know if there where any footprints in or near the sandpile (which would be incredibly nice to know) Gus was allegedly playing in, but Mr Boland would of started there and if there where tracks followed untill nothing or there where never any fresh prints so he had to just look around to find a trace. I remember seeing seeing a video news story where he's in the process of looking for Gus's tracks and you can hear him say something like "hmm, think doesn't make any sense".
Anyway just wanted to bring my wonderings and ramblings up on this.
 
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I've thought about this again tonight.
This was shortly before the gun incident and got list on here.
I think what Mr Boland is implying/saying is he had a strong opinion after his search for tracks which was dismissed by the police. I'm fairly certain he is implying that he believes Gus didn't wander off. I guess the police told him he can't say anything but he is keen on one day telling the story of how he saw the right road to take in this investigation and the police went down the other road.
We don't know if there where any footprints in or near the sandpile (which would be incredibly nice to know) Gus was allegedly playing in, but Mr Boland would of started there and if there where tracks followed untill nothing or there where never any fresh prints so he had to just look around to find a trace. I remember seeing seeing a video news story where he's in the process of looking for Gus's tracks and you can hear him say something like "hmm, think doesn't make any sense".
Anyway just wanted to bring my wonderings and ramblings up on this.
Very well said, great assessment.

This is the sort of contribution I really appreciate. We're all exposed to the same body of information, regardless of whether we are capable or even have time to fully absorb it. Each of us extracts fragments, forming them into questions, concepts, and evaluations. So, by sharing these, we collectively gain understanding in ways no individual could achieve alone.
 
  • #3,611
CCTV recordings from fuel stations within last 3 months
 
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" .... lowering cameras into the mines in search of the little boy."

I am guessing that the media don't actually know what specialist equipment is being used. One article says lowering officers into the mineshafts, another says lowering cameras.

Though I can only imagine that some of these shafts may not be too accessible if they were perhaps covered at one point, and the covering has eroded and fallen in, or edges have fallen in. They may have to dig a bit of rubble out to get a good look.
Also, I remember a case where a horrible Marine ex BF killed his pregnant gf----and he hid her in an old mineshaft. I watched a video of one of the searches---they lowered a firefighter partially into the mineshaft and he then lowered a video camera in deeper.

Sometimes they lower a person in part way, and then they have him use cameras because there are sometimes obstructions at the top that they need to get past.
 
  • #3,614
Without evidence of an abduction, believing that he was removed from the property by a human simply because he hasn't been found yet is much like saying, "I can't find my keys. I've looked everywhere and I can't find them. Someone must have stolen them."
Well, except your keys wouldn't be expected to leave traces behind, like footprints or pieces of clothing or scent trails, etc.
 
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"Police will descend more mineshafts under gruelling conditions on Wednesday in the search for Gus Lamont,
prompting one former investigator
to suggest detectives must now confront all possibilities including
'human intervention'.

'The fact
that they're searching so far away from where Gus first disappeared suggests to me
they're looking at possible intervention',
he said."
YES. If they do find him in a mine 5km away, doesn't that indicate that an adult had to take him there? He had no food or water. How would he travel so fr alone?
 
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YES. If they do find him in a mine 5km away, doesn't that indicate that an adult had to take him there? He had no food or water. How would he travel so fr alone?
I think they possibly have learnt something from the disappearance of William Tyrrell and the coronial inquiry. They would have to rule out all the most remote possibilities. It does bother me though having spent some time around the gold mining areas in NSW that those areas tend to be scattered with mines and its not uncommon for people to fall into disused mines or shafts if they go off the beaten track at all (there are warning signs everywhere). I admit i have not been to SA and I am aware this was not gold mining so may have been a lot less 'scattered' than the gold rush days in NSW but I do wonder if it is possible there are badly covered mine shafts closer to the homestead that could give way or be discovered by a curious little boy. Of course there could be other reasons for some sort of digging to have been done in the past particularly on a farm that could cause ground to give way or sink holes to occur such as old septics, water tanks or fuel tanks or even burying of rubbish or animal carcasses and current owners may not even be aware of locations of any of these items if they go back far enough in time.
 
  • #3,618
I admit i have not been to SA and I am aware this was not gold mining so may have been a lot less 'scattered' than the gold rush days in NSW ..... (RSBM)

There was a gold rush in the Yunta area. Gold discovered in 1886 which led to about 5,000 people descending on the area.
There are scattered, abandoned gold mines. Further back in the thread are photos of an old mineshaft that a property owner recently found on his property (he has lived there for years).


In October 1886 Thomas Brady and Thomas Smith discovered gold on a property near Yunta. Not long after the discovery, 5,000 miners appeared on the goldfield. For the next ten years or so Yunta became a destination for gold prospectors. Miners have also travelled to Yunta with the hopes of discovering copper and various mines for slate have been recorded in the region.

 
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I think they possibly have learnt something from the disappearance of William Tyrrell and the coronial inquiry. They would have to rule out all the most remote possibilities. It does bother me though having spent some time around the gold mining areas in NSW that those areas tend to be scattered with mines and its not uncommon for people to fall into disused mines or shafts if they go off the beaten track at all (there are warning signs everywhere). I admit i have not been to SA and I am aware this was not gold mining so may have been a lot less 'scattered' than the gold rush days in NSW but I do wonder if it is possible there are badly covered mine shafts closer to the homestead that could give way or be discovered by a curious little boy. Of course there could be other reasons for some sort of digging to have been done in the past particularly on a farm that could cause ground to give way or sink holes to occur such as old septics, water tanks or fuel tanks or even burying of rubbish or animal carcasses and current owners may not even be aware of locations of any of these items if they go back far enough in time.
My understanding is that it is old gold mine shafts. Probably a snake haven now
 
  • #3,620
From my understanding, fuel stations in Australia need to comply by law and keep the CCTV recordings data for of 3 months,from a date/from/ due to a particular circumstance....
I Just was wondering people captured on CCTV @ fuel stations around the outskirts of yunta Adelaide, would be interesting to cross examine 6 or 9 months ago compared to within 3 months today.
In shopping centres we are more reminded that cameras are in real time, and sometimes even edgy(slightly paranoid) if sometimes we are unsure of which aisle
Anyways in fuel stations we don't really seem to be concerned as much, due to worry of the cost of fuel ⛽, and which number fuel tank we were on to pay....
So basically, the family of Gus, could show a very indicative timeline of personal behaviour, if fuel stations do keep data CCTV recordings for more than 6 9 months
Interesting
 

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