Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[SouthAussie]

LE may be strategically sharing what they do, not because its accurate, but because they're aim is to root out the truth.

I don't think that SA police are allowed to just make stuff up to tell the public.

More likely that they just don't mention things that they don't want revealed to the public at any point in time. imo

Which is probably why we hear officers say "I can't talk about that at the moment", "we are not going to reveal every facet of our investigation" ... and phrases like that. Which can be frustrating, but they are not allowed to provide inaccuracies (lies, untruths) to the public.


A designated officer must at all times act with honesty and integrity, whether in the course of his or her employment or otherwise.

POLICE COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE REGULATIONS 2017 - SCHEDULE 3

classic.austlii.edu.au

 

[Ellery84]

My post was deleted because I mentioned a surname that has never been publicly mentioned in relation to the case. It was also highly speculative in the sense that there are plenty of Bobs in Adelaide. Fair call. I do know the rules of this forum. Here is the transcript again:

ABC Overnights Program
2am early morning, Friday 28th November
Starts around the 25-minute mark on my desktop interface
Presenter: Michael Pavlich [very patient and polite person imo]

Michael: How many noses does a slug have?
Bob: I’ll go with four.
Michael: You are correct.
Bob: Now, this is my first time ringing this number, this quiz line, and you’re based in NSW, is that correct?
Michael: Nah, actually, we’re based in Melbourne.
Bob: Okay, okay, ‘cause I’m in Adelaide, and I’m up late because I’m actually planning to head off early tomorrow morning. I’m actually trying to put out a call for some volunteers to come help me look for someone. [Interjection regarding second quiz question, which Bob gets correct]. I’m trying to recruit an army of volunteers to go and help look for a lost boy.
Michael: Okay…
Bob: His name’s Gus Lamont and there’s only two people looking for him - that’s me and a lady called Fleur. It’s been in the news. It’s a sheep station up near Yunta, which is on the border of NSW and SA. I’m sure lots of your listeners have been hearing. Nobody’s up there looking for him. He’s been lost for a little while now. But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive. We need people to look for him because no one’s looking for him. Everyone thinks there are lots of people looking for him, but there’s nobody looking for him.
Michael: Okay, okay, look Bob, we’ll take your details, and thank you for that, and thank you for looking. Thank you for calling in mate - we really do appreciate it.

Love the transcript. Thank you!

 

[Raina_the_observer]

Yes, but different farms exist
Holding tank of fuel is very dangerous decision to make.

I can assure you that it is almost a certainty that every property in that area has there own tanks. Agree with the other poster, they would only fill up at a service station when they went further from home, perhaps to Adelaide.

 

[BreakingNews]

Thank you for the transcript.

We have so little to go off of in this case, but why do we think Bob is credible?

I heard it live and I believe he was credible. He sounded like a bushy who was desperate to find Gus. However I have no idea where they are searching. If they believe he is alive, he isn't out under a salt bush, nor down a mine shaft. So where are they looking!!!

 

[BreakingNews]

I don't think that SA police are allowed to just make stuff up to tell the public.

More likely that they just don't mention things that they don't want revealed to the public at any point in time. imo

Which is probably why we hear officers say "I can't talk about that at the moment", "we are not going to reveal every facet of our investigation" ... and phrases like that. Which can be frustrating, but they are not allowed to provide inaccuracies (lies, untruths) to the public.


A designated officer must at all times act with honesty and integrity, whether in the course of his or her employment or otherwise.

POLICE COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE REGULATIONS 2017 - SCHEDULE 3

classic.austlii.edu.au

However in the Baden Clay murder in Qld, police were saying Gerard was not a person of interest. When in fact that is exactly what he was from the moment he reported his wife missing.

 

[SouthAussie]

However in the Baden Clay murder in Qld, police were saying Gerard was not a person of interest. When in fact that is exactly what he was from the moment he reported his wife missing.

Our SA law (as posted above) came into effect in 2017. It is called "South Australian Current Regulations: POLICE COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE REGULATIONS 2017 - SCHEDULE 3".

Baden Clay was arrested in 2012, under Qld laws at the time.

Not sure if that makes a difference. If the various states have tightened up about misleading the public, because we need to have faith in our police and what they say.

It may be, in Gus' case, that the police stop saying there is no evidence of foul play if they actually find evidence of foul play. They may just not speak any further about any "foul play" aspect.
Or they may say that they are now investigating foul play (if they find evidence of such) to put any potential perp under pressure.

imo

 

[bearbear]

Having bulk fuel on the farm is normal farm practice and has been for decades. You see, one simply cannot drive a combine to a gas station. Farm machinery is too big, and isn't meant for road travel. There are strict environmental and safety rules about farm fuel tanks, just like there are for gas stations so it is not more dangerous than a regular gas station.

A big fuel truck comes to the farm and fills the tanks. These tanks are usually above ground, something like the way home owners might have propane tanks, but sometimes they are below ground, just as they are at a gas station.

Usually farm fuel is priced lower, since it is for farm use. All farmers like lower priced fuel, so they install bulk tanks. A farmer usually puts farm fuel into their pickup or car, because even when they go off the farm, they almost always are going out on farm business. Even if they are just going out to get their hair done, they don't take the farm fuel out of their vehicle and replace it with gas station fuel because that wouldn't feasible.

So a farmer wouldn't have reason to go to a gas station.

sometimes people also call at gas stations for snacks, coffee, bread, milk, toilet etc?

 

[BreakingNews]

Our SA law (as posted above) came into effect in 2017. It is called "South Australian Current Regulations: POLICE COMPLAINTS AND DISCIPLINE REGULATIONS 2017 - SCHEDULE 3".

Baden Clay was arrested in 2012, under Qld laws at the time.

Not sure if that makes a difference. If the various states have tightened up about misleading the public, because we need to have faith in our police and what they say.

It may be, in Gus' case, that the police stop saying there is no evidence of foul play if they actually find evidence of foul play. They may just not speak any further about any "foul play" aspect.
Or they may say that they are now investigating foul play (if they find evidence of such) to put any potential perp under pressure.

imo

Wow, thanks for this SouthAussie. It is very interesting to know. I don't know for sure, but I think Qld hasn't got that memo. In Bundaberg awhile back Pheobie Bishop was murdered and police were saying the housemates were not suspects. Now they are both charged with her murder. I wonder if they can say that in Qld until they have enough evidence for an arrest?
Certainly with Gus, SA police have remained silent recently, except for the mine search.

 

[bruecbrian290]

SA police have remained silent recently, except for the mine search.

Does anyone have any ideas why this may be? As in, why they are talking about the mine search but nothing else recently?

 

[jepop]

Does anyone have any ideas why this may be? As in, why they are talking about the mine search but nothing else recently?

The last update was what?... about a week or so ago?

Regarding Police "talking about nothing else recently". Moo that's very probably because there's been nothing of significance to impart to the public since the last recent update a week or so ago.

From the last update (posted up thread quite a few times) we know police are continuing to analyse and investigate the disappearance of Gus, more searches are not ruled out, the family continue to fully co-operate with police and no evidence of foul play has been uncovered. Moo

 

[jepop]

IMHO I think Bob is not credible at all. For starters, who injects this type of conversation into a late night radio quiz show between questions? JMO, but no credible person does. Makes me question if he even knows Fleur! And the family has already said they dont want random groups of people showing up to search on their property unannounced. If its only him and Fleur, then hes not including the family, so we can assume he does not have permission from the family. Unless they are not going to search the families property? And the statement 'But he’s alive. I know he’s alive. Fleur knows he’s alive.' is also questionable. IMO I think he is 'full of it', but I believe it would still be worth the Police finding this bloke and Fleur and questioning them, just for peace of mind at the least.

I think he's misguided if he really believes Gus could be alive out there on the station. If he is saying he wants people to help him search, then moo it appears to be what he believes. That isn't rational, and jmo it sounds like a case of severe denial if he is sincere (and I'm not saying he isn't). Sincerity doesn't necessarily equal credibility. Imo his claim is not credible, although he may well be sincere. Jmo

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE

This thread is dedicated to discussion of Gus' case.

Please just move on from bringing in specifics of other cases and comparing LE handling in Gus' case to LE handling of another case.

 

[BreakingNews]

Does anyone have any ideas why this may be? As in, why they are talking about the mine search but nothing else recently?

Maybe because nothing else is coming to light.

 

[Deleted member 372361]

Does anyone have any ideas why this may be? As in, why they are talking about the mine search but nothing else recently?

Yes, the sapol are under extreme pressure due to the Lamont family generations farm estate , please be attentive and patient
,

 

[RedHaus]

I think he's misguided if he [Bob] really believes Gus could be alive out there on the station.

RSBM
I really struggle with this too.

I've been trying to figure out how a local civilian, who "knows" Gus is alive, is searching for him. How and where is he doing this?

Not being from Australia, this may be a naive question, so I apologize.

Could there be transient encampments (e.g. homeless tent camps) or a community where traveling Sheep Shearers may live? Or some sort of place where Gus could have ended up - either taken from the Homestead or if he crawled into the truck of a hired hand?

Just trying to figure this 'nugget' out, before dismissing it as worthless.

IMO
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[jepop]

RSBM
I really struggle with this too.

I've been trying to figure out how a local civilian, who "knows" Gus is alive, is searching for him. How and where is he doing this?

Not being from Australia, this may be a naive question, so I apologize.

Could there be transient encampments (e.g. homeless tent camps) or a community where traveling Sheep Shearers may live? Or some sort of place where Gus could have ended up - either taken from the Homestead or if he crawled into the truck of a hired hand?

Just trying to figure this 'nugget' out, before dismissing it as worthless.

IMO
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Transient camps on the property? I don't think so. We've heard and seen nothing to indicate that. So...no.

As far as Bob goes, reading the transcript and assuming he's sincere, I'm writing it off as a comment made by someone who has probably lost touch with reality ( could be temporary, could be characteristic, who knows). Also, he may be a local, but what he actually says is that he's in Adelaide. I think he means that he lives there. Jmo

I could speculate as to what's going on with him but that seems kinda pointless. Perhaps he's just become over invested in Gus' disappearance and cannot face the reality of the situation. He wouldn't be the first person to find themselves in that position. You just have to check out social media for that. Moo

Yep I'm an Australian but my views on Bob don't have much if anything to do with with my nationality. Bob, moo, is in deep denial or has some other psychological blockage which is affecting his ability to reality check. Moo

 

[Auntie Cipation]

In my personal experience, when someone says "I KNOW it", they very often mean "I feel it in my heart/gut and so believe" rather than "know" in a factually definitive sense. MOO

 

[musicaljoke]

In my personal experience, when someone says "I KNOW it", they very often mean "I feel it in my heart/gut and so believe" rather than "know" in a factually definitive sense. MOO

Indeed. They say, "I know", as words of hope, rather than expressing personal knowledge.

As in, "I know that you are going to have a beautiful day for your wedding".

 

[bruecbrian290]

I know this has been discussed a lot previously on here, however I have forgotten, if a vehicle was driving along Oak Park Road, it's roughly 275m away from the station. Would the dust/noise be noticed by anyone?

This may be an obvious answer to someone who has lived rurally, and I'm sure it has been decided on here, I just can't find where. I'm just thinking if someone drove past as Gus wandered in the direction of the road. I do know it would be reasonably odd to have someone drive past there though.

Edit:
I was going off of the station here, but I have also forgotten if we discussed what the buildings in the bottom left of the image are.

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[SouthAussie]

I know this has been discussed a lot previously on here, however I have forgotten, if a vehicle was driving along Oak Park Road, it's roughly 275m away from the station. Would the dust/noise be noticed by anyone?

As the grandmother was inside, and the others were about 10km away at the time, there may have been no adult who would have noticed dust kicked up by any vehicle between 5-5:30pm that day.

imo