Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Lady-J]

Yes well. I think you’ve pinpointed it.

What is the page?

IMO

The hopeless page or the cover up page ?
But the cover up page would have cracks appearing by now.

 

[katydid23]

I agree. And I also think just because one of them very sharply warned someone off of their property, doesn't mean there is any wrongdoing. In that region of SA, I'm thinking it is more of an everyday thing to have a weapon around, while working or protecting onself from snakes, etc.

Ok, let's agree a loaded shotgun was necessary to carry around on the front porch because of the dangerous snakes and spiders,

Why was a 4 yr old left all alone in a dirt pile, with no supervision, no one watching for dangerous snakes, for at least 30 minutes?

That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't Gus be in danger"?

IMO this is a case of a missing child who got lost while playing outside.

Maybe so. It just bothers me that no trace of them has been found. During all that time, and in all those searches, no hats or toys or sweatshirts were left behind? And if they died from the elements, why haven't either bodies been recovered ?

In a hypothetical scenario, I just do not think there is foul play amongst three adults, without either the mother or one of the grandparents breaking a protective pact. JMO.

Maybe not all 3 were in on it?

 

[kurtneverdied]

Hypothetically, if someone did take Gus from the property. Perhaps it was more planned than opportunistic. Perhaps even one of the 3 present family members letting someone take him. With uncertainties around family dynamics. Would someone who knows they have no chance have their dream of finally having a child under their roof. Could a 3rd party have taken Gus to a safe place. While someone knowing the police would arrive had their phone on silent and was asleep when they did.
A neighbour desperate for a child if her own. Perhaps worried about his welfare takes Gus out of opportunity and is desperate to ward if media and look like she's searching.

All this is just ramblings and short little questions by myself, asking my common sense is anything like this possible?..

The answer is I believe it now is after everything that has happened. The silence from the father is something I don't understand.
However I am still more in the accident and cover up camp.
None of what I said is fact and everything is just imagination and ideas.

 

[drsleuth]

 

[BreakingNews]

Poor, gorgeous, little curly haired Gus. Where are you mate?

 

[SouthAussie]

There's the No Trespassing sign. At about 10:20 in your linked video.

There is some really good footage of the terrain in the video. I found it worth watching.
Gus could have been missed.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Ok, let's agree a loaded shotgun was necessary to carry around on the front porch because of the dangerous snakes and spiders,

Why was a 4 yr old left all alone in a dirt pile, with no supervision, no one watching for dangerous snakes, for at least 30 minutes?

That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't Gus be in danger"?

Maybe so. It just bothers me that no trace of them has been found. During all that time, and in all those searches, no hats or toys or sweatshirts were left behind? And if they died from the elements, why haven't either bodies been recovered ?


Maybe not all 3 were in on it?

Exactly!!

 

[jepop]

There's the No Trespassing sign. At about 10:20 in your linked video.

There is some really good footage of the terrain in the video. I found it worth watching.
Gus could have been missed.

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Well spotted.

Yeah I agree the footage was excellent and educational. Being missed is the most feasible possibility, more feasible JMO than a successful cover up (just too many impossible leaps) or an abduction. To be clear this is MOO based on what is most realistic, assuming crime scene detectives know their jobs and are exercising due diligence. Additionally assuming SAPOL are being truthful when updating the public rather than actively misleading. Jmo

 

[kurtneverdied]

Well spotted.

Yeah I agree the footage was excellent and educational. Being missed is the most feasible possibility, more feasible JMO than a successful cover up (just too many impossible leaps) or an abduction. To be clear this is MOO based on what is most realistic, assuming crime scene detectives know their jobs and are exercising due diligence. Additionally assuming SAPOL are being truthful when updating the public rather than actively misleading. Jmo

Yeah he could of been missed but I've thought about the odds of that and if if add it all up it's very likely he hasn't been missed.

Main points for this being:

* Not being found in 3 hours by adults who should know exactly where to look

* A 4 year old wouldn't wander away from the only lights around into the darkness. Once pitch black if he dropped something he wouldn't find it again. He would hardly be able to walk without stumbling into a bush or tripping over a stone. He wouldn't be able to walk far due to the darkness and likely would of been doing circles. Very likely would have cried and would of been heard very easily out there as dead quiet. Sheep are generally quite at night besides predators or being separated from lambs etc
Nothing found, no hat, shoe, excrement. No tracks.

* Tracker Mr Boland unable to find any trail.

* No event detected by dogs.

* No sign of or smell of body around homestead which has been thoroughly searched.

* No sign of on drone analysis and if course previous searches.

* No desperate plea from family for help to look, even for his remains. Against the media from the beginning and becoming hostile. Many parents would be desperate for as much help as possible.

* Delay in photo release dismissing that small chance someone took him. Many parents would plea to cover all bases.

* Privacy used over and over as an excuse for the above points. (Which may be truth and a lot of people back them) There comes a time when you just have to look at it on face value.

Now all that was in my opinion and like I said he could still be out there, but if you're being logical to yourself. Start to think what are the odds for everything that happened to not leave one clue, and if you would act just like the family has.

Think about when you where a kid all the stupid and dangerous things you did and maybe question if the odds are that Gus may have had an accident.

 

[Andreee]

Ok, let's agree a loaded shotgun was necessary to carry around on the front porch because of the dangerous snakes and spiders,

Why was a 4 yr old left all alone in a dirt pile, with no supervision, no one watching for dangerous snakes, for at least 30 minutes?

That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't Gus be in danger"?

Maybe so. It just bothers me that no trace of them has been found. During all that time, and in all those searches, no hats or toys or sweatshirts were left behind? And if they died from the elements, why haven't either bodies been recovered ?


Maybe not all 3 were in on it?

We do not know if the shotgun was loaded at that time
And It was Shannon who was watching Gus so only she can answer why he was allowed outside. Sometimes bodies do get missed even when same ground is searched over and over, as is well known from past cases. It happens!
Either bodies? Who else? I am just talking about Gus. Anyways, this is just my opinion from everything we've learned thus far. Thats all.

 

[FromGermany1]

We do not know if the shotgun was loaded at that time
And It was Shannon who was watching Gus so only she can answer why he was allowed outside. Sometimes bodies do get missed even when same ground is searched over and over, as is well known from past cases. It happens!
Either bodies? Who else? I am just talking about Gus. Anyways, this is just my opinion from everything we've learned thus far. Thats all.

bbm
I want to know also.

 

[BreakingNews]

There's the No Trespassing sign. At about 10:20 in your linked video.

There is some really good footage of the terrain in the video. I found it worth watching.
Gus could have been missed.

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I also found it interesting viewing. The terrain changed in some places to be quite dense. The searchers would have nearly had been side by side to check every bush.
Personally, I am at a complete loss, and have no theory that I lean towards.

 

[jepop]

Yeah he could of been missed but I've thought about the odds of that and if if add it all up it's very likely he hasn't been missed.

Main points for this being:

* Not being found in 3 hours by adults who should know exactly where to look

* A 4 year old wouldn't wander away from the only lights around into the darkness. Once pitch black if he dropped something he wouldn't find it again. He would hardly be able to walk without stumbling into a bush or tripping over a stone. He wouldn't be able to walk far due to the darkness and likely would of been doing circles. Very likely would have cried and would of been heard very easily out there as dead quiet. Sheep are generally quite at night besides predators or being separated from lambs etc
Nothing found, no hat, shoe, excrement. No tracks.

* Tracker Mr Boland unable to find any trail.

* No event detected by dogs.

* No sign of or smell of body around homestead which has been thoroughly searched.

* No sign of on drone analysis and if course previous searches.

* No desperate plea from family for help to look, even for his remains. Against the media from the beginning and becoming hostile. Many parents would be desperate for as much help as possible.

* Delay in photo release dismissing that small chance someone took him. Many parents would plea to cover all bases.

* Privacy used over and over as an excuse for the above points. (Which may be truth and a lot of people back them) There comes a time when you just have to look at it on face value.

Now all that was in my opinion and like I said he could still be out there, but if you're being logical to yourself. Start to think what are the odds for everything that happened to not leave one clue, and if you would act just like the family has.

Think about when you where a kid all the stupid and dangerous things you did and maybe question if the odds are that Gus may have had an accident.

*On the issue of privacy will just say that I echo @musicaljoke's and @Andreee's recent opinions. I'm not in Gus' family's shoes and will not be casting any judgement on their experience or their stated need for privacy and space to grieve. I actually am taking them at face value and respecting that.

On your last paragraph re accidents, yeah I agree with that. It is one of my theories that Gus wandered or followed something that caught his eye ( lizard for eg), got lost and then had an accident at some point in the dark resulting in his demise. But moo there is no basis for speculation that his family could or would 'cover up' an accident rather than try to help him, call 000 etc. None of your asterisked points and assumptions about how family members should be and behave are a basis for such a speculation in my opinion.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[kurtneverdied]

*On the issue of privacy will just say that I echo @musicaljoke's and @Andreee's recent opinions. I'm not in Gus' family's shoes and will not be casting any judgement on their experience or their stated need for privacy and space to grieve. I actually am taking them at face value and respecting that.

On your last paragraph re accidents, yeah I agree with that. It is one of my theories that Gus wandered or followed something that caught his eye ( lizard for eg), got lost and then had an accident at some point in the dark resulting in his demise. But moo there is no basis for speculation that his family could or would 'cover up' an accident rather than try to help him, call 000 etc. None of your asterisked points and assumptions about how family members should be and behave are a basis for such a speculation in my opinion.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

I respect your opinion and understand why.
I am sure everyone of us here have different thoughts of what potentially happened and/or how they view people and organisations involved.

 

[RedHaus]

It’s weird because Fleur was on the news when Gus first disappeared and she was adamant Gus wasn’t taken by anyone because there are six gates! She was super pissed off at those suggestions.
“He’s a little boy lost!”

I agree, it is odd.

If Fleur has indeed changed her perspective on what happened to Gus, what new data might cause her to "know" Gus is alive, per Bob?

 

[twomoresmores]

Sounds like William Tyrrell.

There's the No Trespassing sign. At about 10:20 in your linked video.

There is some really good footage of the terrain in the video. I found it worth watching.
Gus could have been missed.

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Yes, really good footage and an excellent summary of what's happened so far in relation to the search. I agree, he definitely could have been missed. The undulating terrain plus the bushes and shrubs would provide shade and hiding places for a 4 year old. However, for me, this acknowledgement was balanced by a reminder of the sheer effort that's gone into the search: man power, helicopters, dogs, horse riders, drones, vehicles, a local tracker. This is all in addition to the draining of the reservoir plus the searching of the mine shafts. Compare this with the distance that Gus might have travelled in the time between his grandma last seeing him and when the search started. I think if he was in the vicinity through wandering, he'd have been found.
JMO.

 

[statt#1]

The young man never even cried out for help. Isn't that odd? 4 years old, lost, dark, 3 adults frantically searching, and Gus never made a peep. No screaming, no wailing, no yelling MOMMY.

I'd imagine the three were yelling his name, yet never heard a sound.

Don't you think when first noticed missing, that some yelling of his name likely occured, right at 5:30ish... he'd only been gone a max of half an hour...my gut says he'd still be in earshot.

Was he already dead? Playing hide and seek? Why would a 4 year old not be heard yelling for his mommy in the still of night? Makes no sense.

 

[twomoresmores]

Poor Gus, the young man never even cried out for help. Isn't that odd? 4 years old, lost, dark, 3 adults frantically searching, and Gus never made a peep. No screaming, no wailing, no yelling MOMMY.

I'd imagine the three were yelling his name, yet never heard a sound.

Don't you think when first noticed missing, that some yelling of his name likely occured, right at 5:30ish... he'd only been gone a max of half an hour...my gut says he'd still be in earshot.

Was he already dead? Playing hide and seek? Why would a 4 year old not be heard yelling for his mommy in the still of night? Makes no sense.

Really good points and I agree. And that max half hour or even an hour is important - I think the sheer numbers and eyes on the ground would soon have covered the possible distance he could have travelled. I think he's unlikely to have walked quickly and purposefully for that period of time. I agree that he'd still be in earshot.
JMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

The young man never even cried out for help. Isn't that odd? 4 years old, lost, dark, 3 adults frantically searching, and Gus never made a peep. No screaming, no wailing, no yelling MOMMY.

I'd imagine the three were yelling his name, yet never heard a sound.

Don't you think when first noticed missing, that some yelling of his name likely occured, right at 5:30ish... he'd only been gone a max of half an hour...my gut says he'd still be in earshot.

Was he already dead? Playing hide and seek? Why would a 4 year old not be heard yelling for his mommy in the still of night? Makes no sense.

We don't know when Gus' mother and grandparent joined the search - that is, when they arrived back at the homestead.
We don't know when neighbours may have joined the search.

The grandmother was also minding a 1-year old when she realised Gus wasn't there. She likely couldn't have searched very far, on her own with a 1-year old in tow.

We also don't know if Gus was conscious when they were searching.

imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Think about when you where a kid all the stupid and dangerous things you did and maybe question if the odds are that Gus may have had an accident.

I think the odds are pretty high. Having grown up in that kind of landscape, I personally know of adults who have died in the bush from having an accident and not being found soon enough.

One incident that springs to mind right away is a young person who went dirt motorbike riding, didn't tell anyone where they were riding (the #1 safety thing in the bush is don't go out there alone, or tell someone where you are going). This person broke their leg and wasn't found for 10 days, despite having a dirt motorbike laying close by. And they died at some point during the search time because searchers didn't know (specifically) where to look.

imo