Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[ChatteringBirds]

If there was an accident, the vast majority of people will call an ambulance. Your brain usually can't accept immediately that it's too late and tries to seek help. My opinion.
I guess there are circumstances where that's not true, but I doubt whatever happened was Gus falling from a height or similar. It had to be bad, which is so tragic.

 

[_sleuthdog_]

Around which time in the video, please?

Don’t have access right this minute but within the update and repeated at the end.

 

[Marg944]

Another article also suggesting the old alibi was wrong….


“It was previously believed he was being cared for by his grandmother, Shannon Murray, while his mother Jessica and another grandparent were tending sheep about 10km away.”

Cops identify suspect in disappearance of Gus, 4, as chilling update issued

A SUSPECT has been identified in the mystery disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont. It comes more than four months after the little boy vanished from a remote South Australian sheep station. Po…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[jepop]

I'm of the opinion that Gus died under Shannon's care while Josie and Jessica were working on the station elsewhere.

When Josie and Jessica came back. Shannon has told Josie in private what happened. This would prove that Jessica never knew about what actually happened.

How could the baby die under Jose's care without Jessica knowing?

Both grandparents called the police for the initial search.
When the police left, Josie moved the body elsewhere while shannon was at home with Jessica.

A theory of this nature is gelling for me aswell. ATM the police have publicly declared there is "a suspect", however both JM and SM have, I assume very recently, hired legal reps according to the link posted just upthread by @Marg944 .

Speculation incoming:
I am wondering if police were putting pressure on JM to come clean, suggesting she was covering up for SM by disposing of poor Gus's body. JM then withdrew her cooperation, gets legal rep. Then the police publicly state there is a suspect (JM for covering up and disappearing Gus' body Moo). This applies more pressure and SM then also acquires legal rep. Ie It is possible there will be two suspects in this case going forward IMO.

ATM I speculate that JM is suspect in the disappearance of Gus (disposing of body), not suspected of deliberately hurting Gus and killing him. The presser and declaration of a suspect may also have the effect of putting SM under pressure to come clean in a scenario where the police are certain Gus disappeared under SM's watch.

In this scenario Police would need to be satisfied Gus was at the homestead and alive and well that day and JM and JL did leave Gus in the care of SM. They would need to be satisfied JL returned to the homestead with JM where SM then said Gus was missing etc. Moo

If Gus did die under SM's watch then it could have been an accident or reckless manslaughter. IMO the police can't know CoD or MoD without a body and explanations by the person responsible or the person who was present if Gus died in a tragic accident.. All Speculation and Moo.

 

[skepticsouth]

Surely they would have moved him where they wanted him before calling police.

Det Supt Darren Fielke was asked whether Gus Lamont may still have been on the station when police were first called to the property.

'Possibly. Police were on scene quite quickly when they were advised Gus was missing,' he told reporters.

'Yes, there was some time in between, but it's possible.'

Gus Lamont updates LIVE: Cops identify ONE suspect in disappearance

Follow Daily Mail's live coverage of all the latest updates on the disappearance of missing toddler Gus Lamont.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Old Soul]

My thoughts exactly ……

The full Police Presser is here ….definitely worth a listen … one of the better Aus Police Pressers I have heard ….. (yes I am an Aussie …lol)

At the 32:32 minute mark in the press conference, a journalist asks if police think Gus was on the property when police arrived.
Detective Superintendent Fielke replies, “possibly…police were on the scene quite quickly.” Then he qualifies this with, “quickly when they were advised that Gus was missing.”

I think that the three hour delay in reporting Gus missing was probably an early red flag for police.

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean--but there's this:

[Det Supt Fielke] confirmed family members were the only people on the Oak Park Station property at the time of Gus Lamont's disappearance.

Gus Lamont updates LIVE: Cops identify ONE suspect in disappearance

Follow Daily Mail's live coverage of all the latest updates on the disappearance of missing toddler Gus Lamont.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What I mean is if something happened to Gus while Shannon was with the children alone, it is possible that Josie helped conceal Gus and maybe move him later.


Only three people were on the property at the time of Gus' disappearance, Fielke said.

Person with close ties to household of Gus Lamont identified as suspect in his disappearance

www.9news.com.au

 

[Kemug]

If there was an accident, the vast majority of people will call an ambulance. Your brain usually can't accept immediately that it's too late and tries to seek help. My opinion.

Not way out at Yunta you wouldn't, you'd put him in the car or whatever, and drive as fast as you could to some sort of help. Years ago when a young relative of mine had a terrible accident in the middle of nowhere, his parents drove as fast as they could for over an hour to meet halfway a doctor driving as fast as he could from the nearest town. The tyranny of distance doesn't give you the option of waiting for someone to come.

 

[Athena Holmes]

Looks to be the most obvious and rational explanation. Bless this little boy.

 

[SLouTh]

Not way out at Yunta you wouldn't, you'd put him in the car or whatever, and drive as fast as you could to some sort of help. Years ago when a young relative of mine had a terrible accident in the middle of nowhere, his parents drove as fast as they could for over an hour to meet halfway a doctor driving as fast as he could from the nearest town. The tyranny of distance doesn't give you the option of waiting for someone to come.

Agree, however a chopper and medical team can also be deployed by calling the ambulance on 000, especially in remote area accidents …. ( this is correct in QLD so I would assume also the same in other states within Aus)
jmo

 

[steff13]

Are you thinking the whole family is weird for not releasing images to the media?

Abduction was only an extremely slim likelihood. So, not weird at all in my opinion.

I suspect that the whole family were not the ones who decided they weren't going to share a photo. But yes, weird.

Even if it was a .00001% chance he was abducted, why rely that? I mean, if the chances that someone outside the family had seen him were so remote then there was really no sense in making a public plea at all.

 

[SouthAussie]

Around which time in the video, please?

This is the results of all drone flights ... the beings they identified. At 13:06 in the presser video.

More footage from the 37:33 mark.

Search zones

(from Slouth's presser link)

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Major Crime Detective Superintendent Darren Fielke is providing an update on the disappearance of Gus Lamont in the state's outback.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/add-to-all-lsas/disappearance-of-gus-lamont-declared-a-major-crime

Police declare disappearance of Gus Lamont a 'major crime'

South Australian police have declared the disappearance of four-year-old Gus Lamont to be a "major crime" and say they believe he is dead.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

 

[kurtneverdied]

Like I said earlier I think we need to stop talking about the families version of events. There is no credibility that any of it is true.
It's likely Gus died long before the call to police. They would of wanted time to deal with any evidence and make a story up. They could of waited days/weeks/months to call police.

 

[SouthAussie]

Like I said earlier I think we need to stop talking about the families version of events. There is no credibility that any of it is true.
It's likely Gus died long before the call to police. They would of wanted time to deal with any evidence and make a story up. They could of waited days/weeks/months to call police.

That would mean Gus' mother was involved ... and the police say she wasn't.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Grandma? ‘He’ catered? It’s unfortunate that there’s been such rampant transphobia entwined with this case (despite so many mod warnings) because it’s made it hard to trust whether people’s intuition and ideas have been guided by actual red flags and concerns or bigotry. And it’s Gus’ memory and the questions for those who loved them that have suffered for it.

I’m sorry. I tried editing my post. Mod will change it. Not transphobic. Please don’t put words out there saying otherwise. Tyia

 

[Sarahlou]

That would mean Gus' mother was involved ... and the police say she wasn't.

I do find it hard to see how this could have happened without the mother finding out about it though.
Wouldn't both the grandparents have been devastated/behaving strangely even if they were 'only' trying to cover up an accident?

 

[jepop]

Like I said earlier I think we need to stop talking about the families version of events. There is no credibility that any of it is true.
It's likely Gus died long before the call to police. They would of wanted time to deal with any evidence and make a story up. They could of waited days/weeks/months to call police.

BBM. Well, that is your opinion. However, moo posters are good with their own opinions and theories and bringing them to the thread.

"I think we need to stop talking about the families version of events"

Posters are free to consider the families version of events.

 

[SouthAussie]

I do find it hard to see how this could have happened without the mother finding out about it though.
Wouldn't both the grandparents have been devastated/behaving strangely even if they were 'only' trying to cover up an accident?

Not knowing her, I really wouldn't know.

But I do think it is possible that Gus' mother was so overcome with fear, worry, and sorrow that she wasn't really paying attention to other people's reactions - if they seemed as concerned as she.

Plus she has a one year old to shelter from the situation. Likely that her last anxious and grieving energy was spent caring for him.

It is hard to imagine that a person in such a terrible situation as losing their child would be thinking clearly and watching others (other than her youngest son).

imo

 

[Detechtive]

I don't think this was an accident at all. I think a certain someone lost their temper.

I agree. Normal people contact the authorities if there’s an accident.

However, given social media rumour about a custody battle, it’s not in the realms of impossibility that there was an accidental death coverup, imo.

This is pure speculation - perhaps the bio dad was concerned about his wife and their children living with JM, and as such, JM would want to hide it from the dad if power and control were big factors in this family dynamic which it looks like is reasonable, to me. IMO

However, it’s still grossly abnormal that an accident would be covered up in this manner and so therefore it’s probable that this was not an accident, IMO.

When I refer to an accident I mean things like “he accidently got buried in sand playing outside” as opposed to “someone snapped and beat him or shot him”. The latter not being what I consider an accident.

IMO only