Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[Karin1974]

Not releasing a picture was weird. I read all the excuses about privacy and whatnot, but it was weird, IMO. Who says, "hey, I need help finding my kid, here's a vague description of him, good luck."

IMO - If I remember correctly though, someone from the family said they don’t need help, maybe I’m misremembering? MOO

 

[Detechtive]

As the person is a suspect, much firmer stance than a POI, I really think there must be some hard evidence. Even if it is a little.

Perhaps they have been able to disprove certain elements, so the inconsistencies started (changing stories), and perhaps they found some evidence in their January search of the property.

imo

I really think their confidence points to some pretty solid evidence. IMO

Eg witness “confessions” and forensics.

 

[Tweet57]

I can imagine a certain gun-toting granny lashing out if annoyed or angry. Am I allowed to say that?

Hope all guns have now been confiscated from the property as a precaution and for safety of police and other personnel.

 

[Detechtive]

Hope all guns have now been confiscated from the property as a precaution and for safety of police and other personnel.

Probably won’t happen until the suspect is charged. Imo

 

[jepop]

My feeling is that if she knew, she would be deemed complicit. Unless she has finally gone to the police with different information (turned someone in) and that is why it is now a major crime.

imo

It's possible I suppose that at some point she grew suspicious and voiced those suspicions to the police without having any knowledge per se.jmo

 

[Sarahlou]

My brain is all over the shop at the moment so apologies if I just didn't read something properly before - but is this new information or is it a mistake/typo by the DM?

Fielke confirmed the boy's grandmother, mother and younger brother had been on the property at the time Gus disappeared

It doesn't mention the other grandparent?

Police investigating missing Gus Lamont identify suspect

Officers have described the person in question as someone who lives on the remote property where the boy vanished, but stressed it is not one of his parents.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Is talking about a missing person in the past tense enough to raise any suspicions ?

 

[Detechtive]

JLZ, I am only going on Qld laws, but police usually turn up unannounced with a warrant. Police only divulge to the person hearing the reasons for needing a warrant eg magistrate or JP. They don't want to alert anyone so evidence can be destroyed. Let's just hope there is justice for Gus really soon.

That’s the problem, though - you’re relying on QLD laws. In SA, search warrants were much much harder to obtain before the November 2025 laws passed.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

I’m sorry, it’s a huge thread, but when was Gus last seen by his father or anyone besides the mother and the grandparents in person or by video chat (proof of life)? Has this been reported in a news source?

 

[SLouTh]

When they say "three people" I assume they actually mean three adults?

I don't know. Can't really assume anything. We don't know. Children are people too.
He could have said adults, if he meant three adults.

It is bad reporting …. They do mean 3 adults, but as you can listen here to what the Detective Inspector says at 27:18 (in the presser …..) he lists the four persons that were at the home at the time… “Gus’ grandmother, grandparent, the mother, and the younger brother”

Just to clarify …

 

[SouthAussie]

My brain is all over the shop at the moment so apologies if I just didn't read something properly before - but is this new information or is it a mistake/typo by the DM?

Fielke confirmed the boy's grandmother, mother and younger brother had been on the property at the time Gus disappeared

It doesn't mention the other grandparent?

Police investigating missing Gus Lamont identify suspect

Officers have described the person in question as someone who lives on the remote property where the boy vanished, but stressed it is not one of his parents.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I am just reading The Advertiser (local statewide MSM) and it says that Fielke stated that Josie and Shannon Murray, Gus’ mother Jessica and Gus’s younger brother Ronnie were all on the property when Gus disappeared.

I am not sure what that means though. The property is huge. It could mean the original story is correct. It could mean that it is not.

He stresses that Gus' parents are not suspects in Gus' disappearance.

Shannon's lawyer says they have been cooperating but they aren't commenting (to the media).
Josie's lawyer was contacted for comment. Presumably they haven't heard back as there is no comment from him in the article.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/gus-lamonts-grandparents-josie-murray-and-shannon-murray-engage-lawyers-amid-major-crime-investigation/news-story/0ee5cc1b1bd1b3a7346b41ad79d88a46?amp

 

[TMich6811]

I think it’s possible his mother did know something. Maybe not directly what happened but.. they said to wait to call and —- left and we called when they were back, he was gone for longer, they were abusive, they told me to say we were with the sheep because little brother would be taken… I don’t know, something version of that.

I think she finally came forward with what she knew.

Which cleared her as responsible or knowing factual information or just manipulating story a bit and allowed them to take steps forward

 

[jepop]

It is bad reporting …. They do mean 3 adults, but as you can listen here to what the Detective Inspector says at 27:18 (in the presser …..) he lists the four persons that were at the home at the time… “Gus’ grandmother, grandparent, the mother, and the younger brother”

Just to clarify …

Horses Mouth is the best source!

 

[naomiuk]

I’m sorry, it’s a huge thread, but when was Gus last seen by his father or anyone besides the mother and the grandparents in person or by video chat (proof of life)? Has this been reported in a news source?

I asked this a while back, as it’s normally a piece of information that is given to media by police.
I find sometimes it helps to look at what has NOT been said

 

[Hexe]

I am just reading The Advertiser (local statewide MSM) and it says that Fielke stated that Josie and Shannon Murray, Gus’ mother Jessica and Gus’s younger brother Ronnie were all on the property when Gus disappeared.

I am not sure what that means though. The property is huge. It could mean the original story is correct. It could mean that it is not.

If Jessica and Josie were shearing sheep miles away from the house, as stated, they were still on the property, so that does not clear much, apart from clearing that there was no one else but family around that day.

 

[Tweet57]

“Gus's grandparent Josie Murray is understood to have hired top Adelaide criminal lawyer Andrew Ey, while the youngster's grandmother Shannon Murray is being represented by prominent city defence lawyer Casey Isaacs.”

Both grandparents have engaged lawyers.


Guessing station will possibly be on the market soon to pay for both grandparents lawyers.

 

[SouthAussie]

If Jessica and Josie were shearing sheep miles away from the house, as stated, they were still on the property, so that does not clear much, apart from clearing that there was no one else but family around that day.

Yes, I think that is what he meant. Because he went on to say that they had determined where everyone else was (neighbours, locals, etc).

 

[Kemug]

Agree, however a chopper and medical team can also be deployed by calling the ambulance on 000, especially in remote area accidents …. ( this is correct in QLD so I would assume also the same in other states within Aus)
jmo

I don't think there would be a helicopter at Yunta, maybe Port Augusta. But is it free to come, or busy somewhere else? How long before they get on to a pilot? And a doctor?

 

[katydid23]

BBM. I'm not sure what you mean--but there's this:

[Det Supt Fielke] confirmed family members were the only people on the Oak Park Station property at the time of Gus Lamont's disappearance.

Gus Lamont updates LIVE: Cops identify ONE suspect in disappearance

Follow Daily Mail's live coverage of all the latest updates on the disappearance of missing toddler Gus Lamont.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes, confirmed family members were the only ones on the property, but LE has already stated that the parents of Gus were not involved. So that only leaves the 2 grandparents as potentially involved. Perhaps only one of them, who knows?

 

[packetgravy]

Ok I’m circling back to Jason.

I’ll admit I jumped the gun a bit. I assumed he was suggesting abduction, which is one theory I can’t get onboard with.

Turns out there is a longer version of the interview which offers a lot more insight.
Jason’s careful language is compelling,

Firstly, he seems like a good guy. I believe every word he said. He absolutely has the experience and knowledge to share his findings with confidence.

The following quote peaked my interest:

“Hopefully the family will be able to point us in the direction where they think he went, or somewhere he might be.”

His tone changes as he delivers his final message and “direction” was not a query - it was a demand.

MOO

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Circling back again as I am very curious to hear Jason’s thoughts following the update.