Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

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As the eyes of the public and media return to Yunta, the Mail can also reveal the boy did not live at the station - as had been widely understood - and instead lived with his parents, Jessica Murray and Josh Lamont, and his one-year-old brother Ronnie at an Adelaide home which, according to property records, is in Shannon Murray's name.
A neighbour on the street said the family lived at the address - located 320km south of where Gus vanished without a trace - but also spent a lot of time with Jessica's parents at their outback sheep station.

'I only saw him probably a couple of weeks before he disappeared,' said the neighbour, who did not want to be identified.
'I'd see them go for a walk to the playground up the road with their dogs.
'He was a lovely little boy. I'd say hello as they went past.'
Significantly, police have long refused to comment on the last time Gus was sighted outside Oak Park Station.
The neighbour also shed light on the young family's living arrangements.
'Josh lives there with his missus,' he said of the Adelaide address.
'But I haven't seen her [Jessica] since the little boy went missing,' he added.

 
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Report in the Daily Mail today states that he didn't reside there full time. He actually lived in Adelaide with Josh, Jess & little brother in a house owned by Shannon Murray
You'll need to link that report please because I think you are incorrect. The point of my post is OP's claim re no Gus belongings at Oak Park at the time he went missing . It is an established fact in police statements and msm at the time (Sept 2025) that Gus had been residing at Oak Park with Jess a good part of the time. So moo it seems logically a no brainer he had belongings, clothes etc at that address.

If you or OP can provide an approved source showing otherwise then please post it.

You haven't linked to the DM report you are referencing and that would be useful...but sure, Jess and family probably live in Adelaide now. I don't think her and Ronnie have been at Oak Park for many months since Gus went missing.

But again the OP was talking about Sept 2025 ...IRRC at that time Gus also spent part of his time at another house which JL was renovating for his wife and kids. That project was reportedly abandoned after Gus went missing from memory. I will find that link if need be but it isn't relevant to my question to the OP.
 
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Personally @SouthAussie - I'm confuzzed why the original-post was made, as if to cast shade on Ey bc they're representing one of the grandparents, but for the record, IF I was the copper & this happened to me:

"Constable Barry Purnell was stabbed with such force that the tip of the kitchen knife had to be surgically removed from his face.." - SA brothers jailed for 'savage' cop attack.

I'd be more than slightly peeved that some lowlife decided to use my face to store kitchen-cutlery.

M🐄🐄🐄s.
It was made because it’s relevant, imo. The lawyer was charged with assaulting a police officer - puerile or otherwise, it is highly unusual for an officer of the court.

Additionally, forgive me for being extremely judgmental about people who are suspected to have killed a child. I don’t apologise.

Every decision they make at this juncture should be heavily scrutinised. IMO
 
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As the eyes of the public and media return to Yunta, the Mail can also reveal the boy did not live at the station - as had been widely understood - and instead lived with his parents, Jessica Murray and Josh Lamont, and his one-year-old brother Ronnie at an Adelaide home which, according to property records, is in Shannon Murray's name.
A neighbour on the street said the family lived at the address - located 320km south of where Gus vanished without a trace - but also spent a lot of time with Jessica's parents at their outback sheep station.

'I only saw him probably a couple of weeks before he disappeared,' said the neighbour, who did not want to be identified.
'I'd see them go for a walk to the playground up the road with their dogs.
'He was a lovely little boy. I'd say hello as they went past.'
Significantly, police have long refused to comment on the last time Gus was sighted outside Oak Park Station.
The neighbour also shed light on the young family's living arrangements.
'Josh lives there with his missus,' he said of the Adelaide address.
'But I haven't seen her [Jessica] since the little boy went missing,' he added.


Interesting. Confusing though as this is completely different to previous information.
 
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I think it is entirely plausible that JM and the children were staying at 3 different places depending on work routines and farming schedules.

It may be that for periods of time they are at the station so that JM can help her parents with jobs there. We know nothing about what other work she might have and where it is and we know nothing about what work JL has and where it is.

JL could have been spending time between Adelaide and Belalie North due to whatever his usual routine was.

We shouldn’t assume people have 1 permanent residence.

IMO

Edit: fixed typos
 
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I think it is entirely plausible that JM and the children were staying at 3 different places depending on work routines and farming schedules.

It may be that for periods of time they are at the station so that JM can help her parents with jobs there. We know nothing about what other work she might have and where it is and we know nothing about what work JL has and where it is.

JL could have been spending time between Adelaide and Belalie North due to whatever his usual routine was.

We shouldn’t assume people have 1 permanent residence.

IMO

Edit: fixed typos
Well, no, I never got the impression Gus and his mom and younger brother stayed solely at the homestead where he disappeared. I thought he only did during the busy shearing and work seasons. And that there was some kind of residence belonging to the family further in a city, plus the other place that the dad was fixing up. At least, that is what I recall reading in various articles. I forget which month that the mom and young son joined the dad and got out of the homestead since September?
 
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As the eyes of the public and media return to Yunta, the Mail can also reveal the boy did not live at the station - as had been widely understood - and instead lived with his parents, Jessica Murray and Josh Lamont, and his one-year-old brother Ronnie at an Adelaide home which, according to property records, is in Shannon Murray's name.
A neighbour on the street said the family lived at the address - located 320km south of where Gus vanished without a trace - but also spent a lot of time with Jessica's parents at their outback sheep station.

'I only saw him probably a couple of weeks before he disappeared,' said the neighbour, who did not want to be identified.
'I'd see them go for a walk to the playground up the road with their dogs.
'He was a lovely little boy. I'd say hello as they went past.'
Significantly, police have long refused to comment on the last time Gus was sighted outside Oak Park Station.
The neighbour also shed light on the young family's living arrangements.
'Josh lives there with his missus,' he said of the Adelaide address.
'But I haven't seen her [Jessica] since the little boy went missing,' he added.

You'll need to link that report please because I think you are incorrect. The point of my post is OP's claim re no Gus belongings at Oak Park at the time he went missing . It is an established fact in police statements and msm at the time (Sept 2025) that Gus had been residing at Oak Park with Jess a good part of the time. So moo it seems logically a no brainer he had belongings, clothes etc at that address.

If you or OP can provide an approved source showing otherwise then please post it.

You haven't linked to the DM report you are referencing and that would be useful...but sure, Jess and family probably live in Adelaide now. I don't think her and Ronnie have been at Oak Park for many months since Gus went missing.

But again the OP was talking about Sept 2025 ...IRRC at that time Gus also spent part of his time at another house which JL was renovating for his wife and kids. That project was reportedly abandoned after Gus went missing from memory. I will find that link if need be but it isn't relevant to my question to the OP.
I've posted a bit from said article and attached a link.
 
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Dmtp
 
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Police are confident that there is no evidence that Gus wandered off,
They do not believe, after their investigations, that Gus was abducted.
Sadly it is leading to foul play from someone close to Gus.
I don't think this supposition of 'foul play from someone close to Gus' will be a new thought to some of the watchers here. Too much of the circumstances relying on the 'said' timings and Gus' activities that day hark back to the statements of one person.
 
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If true, that is a HUGE shift in the few facts we think we know. Can you please link that report?
Can't post a link but just go to Daily Mail Australia & you will find it (free artcile) - top trending as you can imagine. And yes, it throws a light in a whole different angle, hey
 
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You'll need to link that report please because I think you are incorrect. The point of my post is OP's claim re no Gus belongings at Oak Park at the time he went missing . It is an established fact in police statements and msm at the time (Sept 2025) that Gus had been residing at Oak Park with Jess a good part of the time. So moo it seems logically a no brainer he had belongings, clothes etc at that address.

If you or OP can provide an approved source showing otherwise then please post it.

You haven't linked to the DM report you are referencing and that would be useful...but sure, Jess and family probably live in Adelaide now. I don't think her and Ronnie have been at Oak Park for many months since Gus went missing.

But again the OP was talking about Sept 2025 ...IRRC at that time Gus also spent part of his time at another house which JL was renovating for his wife and kids. That project was reportedly abandoned after Gus went missing from memory. I will find that link if need be but it isn't relevant to my question to the OP.
Well I'm sure you will realize by now that I was not incorrect. You, in fact, are the one with incorrect information
 
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Same, same. I said exactly the same & got howled down. I tried to explain that brandishing a gun in such an irresponsible & aggressive way was enough for serious investigation & possible revocation of licence. It was blatantly aggressive & JM knew exactly what they were doing was threatening.

I think people got "howled down" because the DM shouldn't have been there. There is a No Trespassing sign at the property, AND the media had been warned to stay away. Which all other MSM seemed to honour.

The police likely felt the same way as they did not support the DM. imo


b.webp


Screenshot from .... Lost in the Outback
 
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'I only saw him probably a couple of weeks before he disappeared,' said the neighbour, who did not want to be identified.
'I'd see them go for a walk to the playground up the road with their dogs.
'He was a lovely little boy. I'd say hello as they went past.'

It is nice to hear that Gus experienced living together as a nuclear family. There has been a lot of concern about how often Josh saw his children, and how often Gus got to mingle with other children.

Some people's commuter relationship can mean living apart during the week and together on weekends, for example.
Maybe Jess and Josh's relationship meant living apart during times such as shearing season, and together at other times.


Newer article, but I remember reading this a long time ago ....
A friend told Daily Mail that Joshua and Jess remain a couple but have a 'commuter relationship'.

 
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I don't think this supposition of 'foul play from someone close to Gus' will be a new thought to some of the watchers here. Too much of the circumstances relying on the 'said' timings and Gus' activities that day hark back to the statements of one person.

It has probably been on the mind of most people here, as one of the considerations of what happened to Gus. But speculation and accusations can't fly when there is no suspect or POI (WS rules).

So people look at the alternatives, try to count them out first. We can discuss those things without a POI or suspect.

It is the nice thing about WS - case discussion without conspiracy theories and rampant accusations.

I am still not convinced that Gus couldn't be lost by himself, BUT I think that the police must have some hard evidence (and/or witness statements) to have declared this a major crime.

imo
 
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At this point, is it fair to say an arrest is iminent?

The investigators have all but pointed the finger at a particular person. I can't imagine why they'd do that if they weren't about to lay charges.

I can only think that perhaps they are gauging reactions following the media release from every party that is close to Gus.

In my mind SAPOL have their ducks in a row already.

JMO
 
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At this point, is it fair to say an arrest is iminent?

The investigators have all but pointed the finger at a particular person. I can't imagine why they'd do that if they weren't about to lay charges.

I can only think that perhaps they are gauging reactions following the media release from every party that is close to Gus.

In my mind SAPOL have their ducks in a row already.

JMO

I am thinking that they have their ducks in a row, also.

I did see an article that said that there is still a long, long way to go. I will see if I can find it again, and link it.

imo
 
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@Bats Here is the article. Sky News.


"But they will keep pressure up. They do believe they have a suspect in mind. They will keep working towards charging that individual, but we're a very long way from anyone being found guilty at this stage."

 
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At this point, is it fair to say an arrest is iminent?

The investigators have all but pointed the finger at a particular person. I can't imagine they'd do that if they weren't about to lay charges.

I can only think that perhaps they are gauging reactions following the media release from every party that is close to Gus.

In my mind SAPOL have their ducks in a row already.

JMO
I believe the task force are not in a great hurry but quietly confident they will have evidence to charge someone soon.

I understand they still have to await results and analysis of forensic testing on the seized vehicle, motorbike and electronic devices.

Also probably monitoring what comes out in the wash after the press conference.
 
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Well I'm sure you will realize by now that I was not incorrect. You, in fact, are the one with incorrect information
That's ok, but I think you've missed my point. As I said, I was addressing specific claims in OP's post. I won't reiterate as you can reread it if you want.

Moo I don't see any source (including what I could read from the DM) inferring or otherwise claiming Gus had no belongings at Oak Park in Sept 2025.

OTOH multiple local and national Australian msm in late Sept and early Oct 2025, reported police referring to Oak Park Station as a place where Gus resided with his mother and grandparents. Whether that was all year round, whether he was at that time commuting between the station and the home being renovated by the father is not relevant. I rely on police statements as reported by msm to infer that Oak Park was a place Gus regularly resided at. Therefore IMO he had belongings there.

ETA I agree to disagree at this point and moving back to the current state of affairs.
 
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<modsnip: unnecessary> Seeing someone brandishing a shotgun so menacingly is NOT normal here in Australia. MOO
Yes I'd agree, not usual even on a rural property where guns are used more frequently for pest etc control.
 

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