Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[lostbird]

It makes sense that both grandparents are being supported by independent lawyers, but in releasing a joint statement, I can't help but think (IMO) that SM and JM have more of an idea than what they'd led LE to believe. It's not uncommon for two people to have differing accounts where one stays accurate to the story and the other starts to get muddy on the (potentially) decided details. And tbh, their decision to finally publicly release a statement now (and not when Gus was originally reported missing) all but confirms that one of them is, in fact, the suspect (though, it's looking like both now).

 

[cckp72]

What is the benefit of LE stating they have a POI/suspect without an impending arrest? This happened in the Asha Degree case where LE stated publicly that there was a prime suspect yet no arrests ever came of it.
Is it to draw out other tips?

 

[Dotta]

Exactly this

Great post but I can’t help but think it was caused by rage

Somebody upthread wrote a theory
about punishing Gus for wandering off from home.
Sorry I don't remember who wrote this.

But really it seems like Bingo to me.

It covers both:

ALLEGEDLY

- wandering off (grain of truth in earliest report)
- explains cover up
(possible obvious fatal injury caused by an adult).

- And ties to anger issues/explosive temper as well.

This is my latest theory what ALLEGEDLY happened.
- Not premeditated.
- But fatal outburst of anger.
- Cover up in panic.
- Belligerent attitude indicating fear.

JMO

SPECULATION
My imagination
My Imagination

 

[Marg944]

The grannies solicitors offer “no comment” to reporter…..

236K views · 936 reactions | BREAKING: The grandparents of Gus Lamont have released a statement through their lawyers after South Australian police declared the little boy's disappearance as a major crime. Joint statement: “We are absolutely devasta

BREAKING: The grandparents of Gus Lamont have released a statement through their lawyers after South Australian police declared the little boy's disappearance as a major crime. Joint statement: “We...

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[FromGermany1]

Btw: Was the motorbycle seen (by Satellit) somewhere on the vast property or on a "road"/"path"? Was it safe or dangerous to drive there at night?

 

[tigerlily96]

I just had a horrible thought - what if Gus's little body is found with a bullet in it?

That passed through my mind earlier but I quickly distracted myself

 

[tigerlily96]

Somebody upthread wrote a theory
about punishing Gus for wandering off from home.
Sorry I don't remember who wrote this.

But really it seems like Bingo to me.

It covers both:

ALLEGEDLY

- wandering off (grain of truth in earliest report)
- explains cover up
(possible obvious fatal injury caused by an adult).

- And ties to anger issues/explosive temper as well.

This is my latest theory what ALLEGEDLY happened.
- Not premeditated.
- But fatal outburst of anger.
- Cover up in panic.
- Belligerent attitude indicating fear.

JMO

SPECULATION
My imagination
My Imagination

Yep it’s like a jigsaw slowly coming together. Although our theory could sill be wrong, obviously.

 

[statt#1]

There is no evidence Gus wandered off. That statement is available through numerous legit reporting sources.

That leads me to believe there's no truth to the playing in the dirt story.

So the whole story given by the Grammys is a fabrication. Thus, we have no clue what really happened.

I can deduce that LE is in possession of enough evidence to show one or the other Grammys, or both, are responsible for Gus's death.

They both appear to be lying liars that lie.

MOO

 

[Serononin]

I have the impression that the police are looking at Shannon. Just my own impression from what I have read. We know absolutely nothing about her personality traits because she has kept a very low profile.

I feel that people have super-imposed their own feelings onto her, when we actually know nothing at all about her personality.

imo

If there's any truth to the family's version of events, and if the police think that the one person they've referred to as "a suspect" is the only one directly responsible for Gus' disappearance, then I think Shannon must be the person they're looking at, although I grant you those are a couple of pretty big "ifs". If it is Josie who's the suspect, I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where Shannon wasn't at least involved in covering it up after the fact.

Part of me wonders if the investigators are hoping that this latest announcement might encourage one of the grandmothers to turn on the other, or even both of them to turn on each other

 

[SouthAussie]

Btw: Was the motorbycle seen (by Satellit) somewhere on the vast property or on a "road"/"path"? Was it safe or dangerous to drive there at night?

I have the impression that the images that were put up during the presser were the extensive drone shots that were analysed. I think they did a couple of weeks of drone imaging.

Other than the overlays showing the size of the search of the area, and comparing that to the size of the city of Adelaide (which more locals can relate to).

I would have to go back and listen to the whole thing to be sure though.

imo

 

[Serononin]

That passed through my mind earlier but I quickly distracted myself

Somehow that scenario hadn't really crossed my mind, even though we obviously know there's at least one gun on the property. But then, I certainly never thought that poor Melodee Buzzard would be found with multiple gunshot wounds, and yet here we are...

 

[Dotta]

"Gus Lamont disappearance from Oak Park Station near Yunta:​

What has happened so far.​

SES volunteer was among the many searching for Gus on September 29.

Mounted police search the property on September 30."

From September 27 to now: How the Gus Lamont story has unfolded

It is now more than four months since Gus Lamont went missing from his family's home in South Australia's outback, with the case being declared a major crime on Thursday. Here's what has happened so far.

www.abc.net.au

 

[RedHaus]

I have the impression that the images that were put up during the presser were the extensive drone shots that were analysed. I think they did a couple of weeks of drone imaging.

Other than the overlays showing the size of the search of the area, and comparing that to the size of the city of Adelaide (which more locals can relate to).

I would have to go back and listen to the whole thing to be sure though.

imo

I first considered the detailed ground data from images from above were the result of drones, but I dismissed that idea because of the vast area they'd have to cover for a point in time snapshot. Did they really compile drone data from 5.4 square miles in one day??

That is why I suspect the data at the presser were from analysis of commercially available (for a fee) satellite data.

But... if those presser data are from many hours of flying drones over the area in one day (is that feasible?), perhaps LE should consider getting access to satellite data to look historically at the human activity on the two properties the Murray's oversee...

 

[SouthAussie]

I first considered the detailed ground data from images from above were the result of drones, but I dismissed that idea because of the vast area they'd have to cover for a point in time snapshot. Did they really compile drone data from 5.4 square miles in one day??

That is why I suspect the data at the presser were from analysis of commercially available (for a fee) satellite data.

But... if those presser data are from many hours of flying drones over the area in one day (is that feasible?), perhaps LE should consider getting access to satellite data to look historically at the human activity on the two properties the Murray's oversee...

Apparently, it was imaging from drones and an aircraft.


..... imagery captured by an aircraft and a drone was given to an AI company.

It had produced high-definition pictures which showed every sheep, goat, kangaroo, wedge tailed eagle, wallaroo and animal carcass on the property and a person riding a motorcycle.

Family suspect twist in likely death of missing boy Gus

A family member of missing four-year-old Gus Lamont is a suspect in the boy's disappearance, as police declare his likely death a major crime.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

 

[SouthAussie]

@RedHaus This is what the police statement says about the imaging ...


Polair conducted initial searching, including using infrared FLIR, out to a distance of 12km from the homestead while a drone captured images of a 2.5km radius from the homestead, a 2km radius around the dams and two known travel routes for 8km and 6km from the homestead.

In addition, an aircraft fitted with highly specialised camera equipment captured images on two separate occasions –the first to a 10km radius from the homestead and the second to a 15km radius from the homestead. The total area covered amounts to 706 sq/km.

This imagery has been processed using specifically designed, specialised AI software programs and reviewed by Task Force Horizon investigators.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/add-to-all-lsas/disappearance-of-gus-lamont-declared-a-major-crime

 

[RedHaus]

@RedHaus This is what the police statement says about the imaging ...


Polair conducted initial searching, including using infrared FLIR, out to a distance of 12km from the homestead while a drone captured images of a 2.5km radius from the homestead, a 2km radius around the dams and two known travel routes for 8km and 6km from the homestead.

In addition, an aircraft fitted with highly specialised camera equipment captured images on two separate occasions –the first to a 10km radius from the homestead and the second to a 15km radius from the homestead. The total area covered amounts to 706 sq/km.

This imagery has been processed using specifically designed, specialised AI software programs and reviewed by Task Force Horizon investigators.

https://www.police.sa.gov.au/sa-police-news-assets/add-to-all-lsas/disappearance-of-gus-lamont-declared-a-major-crime

OK, thank you fir clarifying the source. My bad for not going back to the transcript and instead just presuming the source was satellite data.

But as I said, I wonder if in AUS, can LE purchase historical high definition Satellite data? Or maybe my imagination is getting the better of me.

 

[Toowong(s)]

Yup, me too...

I quickly dismissed the idea that perhaps a snake was near Gus while he was playing outside and someone had a bad aim.

And that could have been SM who tried to take out the snake, as we can presume JM has pretty good aim as a former LE officer.

All speculation... but that sure might spur a cover up to protect that someone from manslaughter charges and loss of gun rights?

Hi all,

On this theory I don’t believe police mentioned guns / firearms being taken in the search - only vehicle, motorbike, computers. We know a gun was at the property but at this stage IMO as guns not mentioned as one of the items taken for forensics so this theory not as likely as others (but everything still on the table!).

I wonder what type of vehicle ie a modern one with gps device and potential to track historic movements? Or an old farm ute with no tech.

These grannies are giving me serious Darlene from Ozark vibes now. IMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

JMO but it's not trespassing to walk up to someone's front door with the intention of speaking to them. If asked to leave, you leave. If you don't leave, that's trespassing. If you cap out in someone's yard, even to get s scoop, that's trespassing. IMO this wasn't that.

She didn't know they would say no. In fact, maybe she thought they would welcome an opportunity to tell their side of the story. Report on the human side of things.

A No Trespassing/No Media might have been a better sign --

I can't speak for the journalist in question but 1. that is how journalists score an interview and 2. she couldn't possibly have predicted that she'd met with that particular display.

In light of the newest information from the presser, that aggressive stance looks even worse.

Some of us -- that journalist included IMO -- genuinely wanted Gus found. Seems some people (one or two, depending on how that dynamic played out) did not.

And at this point, if Gus died accidentally and panic led to concealment, why not come clean now, lead LE to his body, and beg for mercy? Unless.... it wasn't accidental.

JMO

Sorry to return to this contentious subject (might be my last post on the subject for a while), but I think you will find that this was trespassing. There was a No Trespassing sign (I have posted the image a couple of times). Plus the police had asked/told the media to stay away. That changes things.

The following article is about a South Australian case. Someone was awarded a civil monetary award ($40,000) by the courts because the police served him a summons at his home when he had a No Trespassing sign up.


.... officers should be aware that occupiers of premises can revoke the common law implied licence to enter their premises either by having a visible sign at the premises, by verbal revocation or by physical barrier (e.g. closed gates).

In such circumstances, absent any statutory authority or warrant to enter the premises, entry may be unauthorised and could amount to trespass and an adverse award of damages.

Knock, Knock, Who’s Trespassing? When is Your Implied Licence to Enter Land Revoked? • Norman Waterhouse

That sign indicated that entry to his premises was forbidden, except by express invitation, and revoked the implied licence for police to enter his premises without lawful authority. An implied licence is a common law legal concept that allows anyone, including police officers or other authorities,…

www.normans.com.au

 

[Andreee]

Exactly this

Great post but I can’t help but think it was caused by rage

I do have to wonder, if this was an accident, why cover it up?! We have seen this in other cases, and IMO there has to be a very good reason to do so in order to make the coverup worth it. It is usually not a good enough reason, and ends up badly anyways with the truth eventually coming out.

 

[BreakingNews]

Thanks @SouthAussie

To me, it seems they are a long way off, based on what the investigator said in the presser but at the same time, I can't imagine why they'd do the presser without them being certain. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

@Old Soul yes agreed. They can take their time here. Perhaps they are expecting those forensic results to only add strength to the evidence they already have?

Bats, I don't understand the timing of the presser either. It has to be strategic somehow. No one really knows the current living arrangements of any of them. We are all assuming, but no one knows for sure.