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This looks like the same place. I know,such remote places, you literally would only see people if you drove to town and even then the same people that you’ve known your whole life. I can’t imagine it at all. It’s as though you could live in your own little kingdom and have your own rules, your own way of doing things and no one would witness it.
 
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No evidence found despite several locations searched in Gus investigation​




Police say they will maintain a presence in the area of South Australia's Mid North following the assessment of an outhouse, where concrete had recently been laid, and a water tank on a remote property.

One of those locations detectives focused on yesterday was a neighbouring property owned by the boy's family, about 30 kilometres west of Oak Park Station and more than 300 kilometres north of Adelaide.

Police told the ABC they inspected a water tank and an outhouse where cement had recently been laid on the remote sheep station.

Major crime detectives also scoured a property at Grampus, about 24 kilometres from Oak Park.

A cadaver dog, brought in from interstate to detect human remains, searched both properties, while a police helicopter flew to the Pualco Range Conservation Park, south of Yunta.
 
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Why had concrete RECENTLY been laid
if this farm/station is empty and allegedly nobody lives there?

Do the grandmothers take care of this farm as it is said to belong to family?

Besides,
the media showed some old ramshackle shed.
Was it the place with recent concrete??

How strange!!! 😵‍💫

JMO
 
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(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.
 
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(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

I agree.
This empty farm would have made a perfect temporary hiding place.
Police were busy at Oak Park station that night looking for a boy.
Nobody mentioned this place.

This empty station is news to me.
I thought neighbours were nearby.

Hmmm... 🤔

JMO
 
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(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

Only speaking from experience, the ones I've seen / used had wooden floors.
 
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(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.

I agree.
This empty farm would have made a perfect temporary hiding place.
Police were busy at Oak Park station that night looking for a boy.
Nobody mentioned this place.

This empty station is news to me.
I thought neighbours were nearby.

Hmmm... 🤔

JMO
I just wrote about this in a PM, and came back here to see you two discussing this idea, so I will post that here:

Last night, I was thinking about the use of cadaver dogs in the most recent search, and I was researching how long cadaver dogs are able to detect after a body has been moved - and found an interesting study.

Residual odor from previously decomposing human remains may remain in the soil and on surfaces long after the remains are gone. This study examined the ability of eight nationally certified HRD dogs (four dual purpose and four single purpose) to detect human remains odor in soil from under decomposing human remains as well as soils which no longer contained human remains, soils which had been cold water extracted and even the extraction fluid itself. The HRD dogs were able to detect the odor of human remains successfully above the level of chance for each soil ranging between 75% and 100% accurate up to 667 days post body removal from soil surface. No significant performance accuracy was found between the dual and single purpose dogs. This finding indicates that even though there may not be anything visually observable to the human eye, residual odor of human remains in soil can be very recalcitrant and therefore detectible by properly trained and credentialed HRD dogs
 
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Ok, yeah no. One wouldn’t use the private road between Bullyaninnie station and Oak Park station to head into town from Oak Park afaik.

I think it’s unsealed and would be strictly off limits to civilians or non family. Imo.

You’d take the Barrier Highway and go South West from Yunta town, then turn left onto Rucioch Rd just after Nackara, then keep going through to Bullyaninnie Road to arrive at the Bullyaninnie homestead if you wanted to travel from Yunta to Bullyaninnie. Then if you were driving to Oak Park station from Yunta you would probably take Netley Gap Sturt Vale Road and then veer right onto Oak Park Road to then arrive at the Oak Park homestead from there.

However if one was driving from Oak Park to Adelaide one may want to cut through the Bullyaninnie station, but I am honestly not sure how drivable that road between the two homesteads is. It might be more of a pathway you would use for an ATV, a motorbike or a horse, and not a car or ute as such. Of course, you couldn’t cut through the stations if you weren’t family or an invited guest as it’s all private property there and we know what happens when one steps foot into Oak Park property uninvited.



Jmo

Of course, if someone who lives at Oak Park and is a suspect, for example, in a major crime, and was wanting to hide the body of a child - they might use a motorbike and not a car, so really they could have gone anywhere they liked…. In theory. They could have gone to Bullyaninnie.

IMO
It does make sense to bury the body far away from Oak Park so there’s less chance of a discovery. Hopefully some phone pings lead the police to the site IMO
 
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(How common is it to have a concrete floor in an outhouse on this kind of property?)

Just pondering -- could he have been placed there temporarily and later moved, and the concrete was then poured there to cover any possible traces of DNA that might have been otherwise detectable on the floor of the outhouse?
Probably not. Just a random thought I had.
This is plausible. There has been mention in the past that if Gus was lying somewhere hurt or dead, there would likely have been birds circling or animals doing what animals do. There was never any signs of this happening. Now if he were temporarily in an outhouse km's away I'm not sure birds would circle. I mean if you're looking right, you're not going to see what's happening to the left.
 
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Police to return to Oak Park 'frequently' in search for Gus Lamont​


Police said they have found no evidence in its latest search for missing boy Gus Lamont, who was reported missing on September 27.

Detectives inspected a water tank and an outhouse where cement had recently been laid during the two-day search.

What's next?​

Police said they will maintain a presence in the area and did not rule out returning to Oak Park Station.


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- " 'Adjoining properties including the national park will be part of our investigation as we move forward'.

- 'I
haven’t been briefed on the exact offences that are the subject of the charges.
It is my assumption that they relate to either:
storage,
ammunition,
registration licensing',
Comm. Stevens said when asked about the specific charges relating to firearms.

'Anyone who holds a firearms licence
has to demonstrate
they have a genuine need for the firearm.
In order to obtain firearms you have to have that approval'.

- Gus’s mum and dad
are continuing to assist police with their investigation."


 
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Another family member of missing boy Gus Lamont is no longer cooperating with authorities, as the five-month investigation into the four-year-old's disappearance widens.

While Gus's parents continue to assist police, two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens confirmed on Wednesday.


 
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"Second relative
no longer cooperating with case.


While Gus's parents continue to assist police,
two relatives previously involved in the inquiry
are no longer cooperating,
South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens
confirmed on Wednesday.

He added that
a wider search area would be cast for the missing boy.

'We're not ruling out anything.
Adjoining properties, including the national park, will form part of our investigation as we move forward',
Commissioner Stevens said."


Well, well, well ...
Kid gloves are discarded it seems.
Good 👍

JMO
 
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Another family member of missing boy Gus Lamont is no longer cooperating with authorities, as the five-month investigation into the four-year-old's disappearance widens.

While Gus's parents continue to assist police, two relatives previously involved in the inquiry are no longer cooperating, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens confirmed on Wednesday.


How dreadful for Jess to know that neither of her parents are cooperating with the police.
 
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The Murray’s don’t seem short of money, pretty sure they could afford to pay a farmhand or two.
I have no idea about Australia or particularly sheep stations in Australia, but it's conceivable that it's not easy to get good reliable farmhands? Possibly also not good reliable farmhands for a pittance? Just a consideration, I've no idea whether the Murrays are able or willing to pay well or not.
MOO
 
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I have trouble with catching my breath
with all recent twists and revelations!

Phew!

SAPOL are working with a vengeance.
YES!!!
Good job 👍

As for the latest info
Raise a hand who is surprised???

NOT me!!!!

JMO
 
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How could it be possible for a perp to enter a nearby farm to conceal a body???
The nearby farm is allegedly property of the Murray's so I'm sure they could come up with some reason to need to enter it, as landlords. MOO
 
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Police to return to Oak Park 'frequently' in search for Gus Lamont​


Police said they have found no evidence in its latest search for missing boy Gus Lamont, who was reported missing on September 27.

Detectives inspected a water tank and an outhouse where cement had recently been laid during the two-day search.

What's next?​

Police said they will maintain a presence in the area and did not rule out returning to Oak Park Station.


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I would love to be privy to this conversation the police/detectives are having in these photos.
Hoping they find Gus soon.
 

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